WashPost: NKorea Has Mini Nuke Warheads for ICBMs

[Quix]

He has good military people around him to advise..I just hope he listens to them.

He has a track record  of consulting the better minds available  to him and to then seriously considering their  input. He can be erratic but  imho, he's far  from irrational in  such situations.

[Quix]

So I guess this is where that can finally comes to rest.  No more kicking it down the road.  Too bad we don't have a more trustworthy president. 

"more" trustworthy President?

--like Roosevelt: setting up, facilitating,  insuring Pearl Harbor?
--Truman selling us down the river  in a list of ways?
etc.
etc.
etc.
The globalist stooges in the White House have all been traitors to some greater or lesser degree.

At least Trump pretends to be against the oligarchy. Maybe a big part of him is. I'm skeptical but I'll ride that horse as far as it goes.

[Mad Max]

North Korea has been threatening the United States for decades. Its about time we threaten them.

[Wingnut]

@Quix

Quix, you should worry about N. Korea instead of outer space aliens.

  .   

[Quix]

thats kinda scary

imho, it's not just ICBM's that are concerning.

Most folks with dreams or visions of the start of WW3 the last 25+ years have seen a sneak attack CLOSE off our shores from subs and container ships.

I was a bit shocked some time ago to learn that NK had far more subs than I'd have ever guessed.

Regardless ... prayer is more effective in such matters than anything else.

And individually and as families, communities, we'd best do what we can to walk close to/with Almighty God Yehovah. NOTHING AND NO ONE ELSE will be a sufficient refuge.

He may require many to walk through the valley of death ... but HE HAS PROMISED AND IS ABLE to walk there with us. And that makes ALL the difference.

Of course, wise prepping is advised, as well.

[Quix]

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Now now. LOL.

@Victoria33 has excellent sources far above average. I respect her and even her perspective above that of most folks.

That just doesn't mean she or her perspective are  perfect.

And, I've been given the impression that I'm no push-over in such discussions. Does it show? LOL.

[NavyCanDo]

I seriously dont think we have been this close to a nuclear weapon being used in combat since the Cuban missile crisus. And Kim is just crazy enough to do it.  Gotta be keeping a lot of Pentagon people working long hours into the night  on strategy.

[Quix]

I don't know that this is comforting ... though it could be good DEPENDING on a list of unknowable contingencies.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/presidents-spiritual-mentor-says-god-has-given-trump-authority-to-take-out-kim-jong-un/

President’s Spiritual Mentor Says ‘God Has Given Trump Authority To Take Out Kim Jong Un’
IF God really has given a specific mandate to Trump about that--I could cheer it. Sounds like the pastor is merely asserting that based on the verses he cites.

Seems to me any serious conflict at this stage puts us on a very fast and slippery slope right into WW3 ... almost regardless.

 Though, if Russia, China et al gave assurances they'd stay still or support such a strike, OK. But  I don't  think they'd go there ... The NK idiot is too useful to them and the oligarchy.

[Quix]

I seriously dont think we have been this close to a nuclear weapon being used in combat since the Cuban missile crisus. And Kim is just crazy enough to do it.  Gotta be keeping a lot of Pentagon people working long hours into the night  on strategy.

I think @Victoria33 might assert that your assertion  is entirely accurate.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

North Korea has been threatening the United States for decades. Its about time we threaten them.

We already have by sending in Madeleine



Maybe that is what Kim is really mad about.

[Oceander]

"more" trustworthy President?

--like Roosevelt: setting up, facilitating,  insuring Pearl Harbor?
--Truman selling us down the river  in a list of ways?
etc.
etc.
etc.
The globalist stooges in the White House have all been traitors to some greater or lesser degree.

At least Trump pretends to be against the oligarchy. Maybe a big part of him is. I'm skeptical but I'll ride that horse as far as it goes.

As in somebody who wasn't a flake who enjoys twitter flame wars more than actually governing.  Don't use strawman arguments; it ill-becomes you.

[skeeter]

I'm up for a Smoked Brisket.  You?

I'l stick with my chopped Kale and quinoa salad.

Its California you know.

[Suppressed]

I seriously dont think we have been this close to a nuclear weapon being used in combat since the Cuban missile crisus. And Kim is just crazy enough to do it.  Gotta be keeping a lot of Pentagon people working long hours into the night  on strategy.

I think that before sending an actual nuke, he will demonstrate the ability to do so.  I think it's more a bargaining chip than anything.

But, he might actually try a conventional attack launch at that point, such that a nuclear response by us would be viewed by the anti-nuke international community as  not a proportional response.

[Wingnut]

I'l stick with my chopped Kale and quinoa salad.

Its California you know.

Oh yeah...and they banned outdoor wood and charcoal use.  Maybe a good NOKO nuke could cure them of their insanity.

[corbe]

Trump intensifies rhetoric against North Korea

 By Rebecca Savransky - 08/09/17 08:11 AM EDT 

President Trump on Wednesday ratcheted up his rhetoric against North Korea, pointing to the strength of the U.S. nuclear arsenal one day after warning Pyongyang of "fire and fury" if it continued its threats.

Trump said in a series of tweets that he hoped that the "power" of the U.S. nuclear arsenal would never have to be used.

He added that "there will never be a time that we are not the most powerful nation in the world."

<..snip..>

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/345847-trump-nuclear-arsenal-far-stronger-and-more-powerful-than-ever-before

[Bigun]

FLASHBACK 1994: Clinton Says His Deal With North Korea Would Make The World Safer

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/flashback-1994-clinton-says-his-deal-with-north-korea-would-make-the-world-safer/

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

I think you make some worthy-to-consider points.

I just strongly believe that your assumptions  are quite flawed re the  oligarchy and its goals.

They are not the most rational of folks though they see themselves at the top of the heap.

The Chinese bragged to me when I lived there that they were seriously prepared to lose 800 MILLION citizens in a war ... and that then THEY would be in a better position to be on top of the heap and control the world. I think they are discounting the oligarchy's reach and script but that is seriously part of the mentality at the top of the Chinese military and leadership. I heard it from a diversity of their own well connected military folks.

Thanks Quix.

However;

Say they launch, by Kim-prox.

Where do they go from there?

IF, they actually start, they lose either way.

We obliterate them, game.

They obliterate us, game, for them either way.

Communist regimes cannot support themselves without a steady influx of free market western capital.

Without our money, they implode even if they reduce us to ashes.

Without incinerating us, if we stop Sending them our money, they implode.

It's not easy being a Communist when you actually put down the idiot theory treatise and just look at the hard and inescapable math of FTM.

Follow The Money.

Remember the devastation Reagan visited on the old Soviet Union by just stopping the export of dual use civilian/military technology to them.

Communism is a parasite.

Without a host (us) to feed on it starves to death.

[driftdiver]

FLASHBACK 1994: Clinton Says His Deal With North Korea Would Make The World Safer

http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/08/flashback-1994-clinton-says-his-deal-with-north-korea-would-make-the-world-safer/

@Bigun

Clinton Says His Deal With North Korea Would Make The World Safer Him Richer.

There fixed it.

[Bigun]

@Bigun

Clinton Says His Deal With North Korea Would Make The World Safer Him Richer.

There fixed it.

That is what he was thinking! NOT what he said however!

[Quix]

Oh yeah...and they banned outdoor wood and charcoal use.  Maybe a good NOKO nuke could cure them of their insanity.

Is it considered a "cure" when their brains  and  the rest of their bodies have been "fried" ... disintegrated to smithereens? I suppose, in a sense, it is. The  landscape and culture no longer have to be plagued with their infestation.

[Quix]

THANKS. I much agree re communism ... and the idiots supporting it.

However, I think you may not be thinking some things through sufficiently.

The oligarchy does not care if billions of people are dead; infrastructure over the planet is largely destroyed etc. etc. They actually WANT that.

One family alone is purportedly worth $300 TRILLION.

Their deep underground cities are stocked to the hilt. They expect to ride out the radiation etc. and emerge at a fitting time to restructure the world and rule it as super elite on top of serfs and slaves with no middle class.

Money is, to them, monopoly money at this point. Power is more their addiction though they are super greedy and ruthless about money, too.

The other issue is the literal king  of hell WANTS a thoroughly scorched earth. It's his  revenge for getting kicked  out of Heaven and flushed from his job as God's best buddy--because of his arrogant rebellion against God.

And the king of hell is the one directing the fallen angel/ET critters AND the human  oligarchy in league with them.

They do NOT care about lives lost, customers lost, etc. etc. etc. They have the means to set up society again as cashless; virtually free energy for all (costing about 50 cents/year) etc. etc. etc. REGARDLESS of how many markets, customers, factories, etc. are totally destroyed.

They want to turn the whole planet mostly back to a vast natural nature preserve with very few cities. The serfs and slaves are slated to live in Soviet style rabbit warren concrete cells and think they are happy because of chemical and other mind control. BRAVE NEW WORLD and 1984 were scripts from the oligarchy themselves. The Huxley's were  in  on the schemes. B.F. Skinner was a dyed in the wool globalist.

This ain't Kansas any more.  Not going to be for some time to come.

Thanks Quix.

However;

Say they launch, by Kim-prox.

Where do they go from there?

IF, they actually start, they lose either way.

We obliterate them, game.

They obliterate us, game, for them either way.

Communist regimes cannot support themselves without a steady influx of free market western capital.

Without our money, they implode even if they reduce us to ashes.

Without incinerating us, if we stop Sending them our money, they implode.

It's not easy being a Communist when you actually put down the idiot theory treatise and just look at the hard and inescapable math of FTM.

Follow The Money.

Remember the devastation Reagan visited on the old Soviet Union by just stopping the export of dual use civilian/military technology to them.

Communism is a parasite.

Without a host (us) to feed on it starves to death.

[Quix]

Trump intensifies rhetoric against North Korea

 By Rebecca Savransky - 08/09/17 08:11 AM EDT 

President Trump on Wednesday ratcheted up his rhetoric against North Korea, pointing to the strength of the U.S. nuclear arsenal one day after warning Pyongyang of "fire and fury" if it continued its threats.

Trump said in a series of tweets that he hoped that the "power" of the U.S. nuclear arsenal would never have to be used.

He added that "there will never be a time that we are not the most powerful nation in the world."

<..snip..>

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/345847-trump-nuclear-arsenal-far-stronger-and-more-powerful-than-ever-before

I was told more than 40 years ago by someone who worked with  such things ... that we had

ELEVEN DIFFERENT

technologies, weapons systems that were more powerful, devastating than our nukes.

Depending on what the oligarchy allows, orders our military to do ... fat little Kim would not have time to kiss his rear goodbye.

Trouble is, I think the oligarchy set him up and maintains him for their  own sadistic, ruthless, maniacal, genocidal reasons.

I don't know that the oligarchy wants the USA to defend itself well. I think they want the current USA government, infrastructure etc. utterly destroyed.

[Quix]

As in somebody who wasn't a flake who enjoys twitter flame wars more than actually governing.  Don't use strawman arguments; it ill-becomes you.

Thanks, I guess, for the very back-handed slight complement.

I don't think you track what I say very well, very often.

I certainly don't think you grok the sources and reasons for my assertions much at all.

There was meat vs straw in my examples.

However, I have little to no capacity to help you see that.

My weakness.

[Quix]

The scenario seen in countless dreams and visions by people from all walks of life for more than 25 years is that:

1. Russia, China, NK, Iran, {and one source says a European nation} ... plus some hangers on like Cuba, Lybia, etc. attack  us by subs and container ships close off our shores in a SURPRISE attack that thoroughly catches us unexpecting such a thing.

2. My prayer is that patriotic units of the  US military have people walking close to God and who ARE alert and watching and retaliate thoroughly.

3. Some insiders claim the "Nordics" are helping the Navy help patriots and trying  to protect the USA--while the CIA is in league with the reptoids, globalists, out for our destruction & deeper enslavement.

I don't trust the Nordics either. I think it's all a deceptive Kabuki dance. However, I certainly believe that major chunks at the Federal level are traitorous to their bone marrow--just like their oligarchy bosses.

Thanks Quix.

However;

Say they launch, by Kim-prox.

Where do they go from there?

IF, they actually start, they lose either way.

We obliterate them, game.

They obliterate us, game, for them either way.

Communist regimes cannot support themselves without a steady influx of free market western capital.

Without our money, they implode even if they reduce us to ashes.

Without incinerating us, if we stop Sending them our money, they implode.

It's not easy being a Communist when you actually put down the idiot theory treatise and just look at the hard and inescapable math of FTM.

Follow The Money.

Remember the devastation Reagan visited on the old Soviet Union by just stopping the export of dual use civilian/military technology to them.

Communism is a parasite.

Without a host (us) to feed on it starves to death.

[GtHawk]

Oh yeah...and they banned outdoor wood and charcoal use.  Maybe a good NOKO nuke could cure them of their insanity.

Not everywhere, though we don't have really great barbecue we do have some good barbecue, and I'll take that over garden weeds, sorry, healthy salad any day!
And as far as a nuke, could it please be neutron bombs dropped in say Sacramento, San Fagcisco and a couple of other liberal elitist enclaves? We have a lot of great landscape here I would hate to see ruined worse than what the liberals are doing.