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White House warns ‘potentially ambitious’ Republicans about 2020
By Julia Manchester - 08/05/17 02:18 PM EDT

The White House on Saturday sent a warning to any Republicans potentially looking to challenge President Trump in 2020.

“The president is as strong as he’s ever been in Iowa, and every potentially ambitious Republican knows that," White House spokeswoman Lindsay Walters told The New York Times for a story about possible Republicans eyeing 2020.

The newspaper reported on speculation that several top Republicans could be looking to challenge Trump, who has yet to achieve a major legislative accomplishment and is grappling with the ongoing probe into ties between his presidential campaign and Russia.

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Re: White House warns ‘potentially ambitious’ Republicans about 2020
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2017, 08:16:28 pm »
The types of people who would be pondering a challenge against Trump would not be intimidated by this kind of threat. Any sane person challenging an incumbent within his own party would have to understand how much of an uphill battle they face.
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Re: White House warns ‘potentially ambitious’ Republicans about 2020
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2017, 08:20:05 pm »
Tiny scrotum disease rears its ugly little head in the White House, again.

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Re: White House warns ‘potentially ambitious’ Republicans about 2020
« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2017, 08:20:49 pm »
The types of people who would be pondering a challenge against Trump would not be intimidated by this kind of threat. Any sane person challenging an incumbent within his own party would have to understand how much of an uphill battle they face.

Not a good sign though. I remember reading that Carter was almost primaried in 1980 by Kennedy and he went on to lose.

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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2017, 08:22:54 pm »
The types of people who would be pondering a challenge against Trump would not be intimidated by this kind of threat. Any sane person challenging an incumbent within his own party would have to understand how much of an uphill battle they face.

It'll be interesting to see how much of an uphill battle it will truly be after another couple years of the Trump Administration.  I have a sneaky suspicion that the 2020 election just might be a little a-typical.
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Re: White House warns ‘potentially ambitious’ Republicans about 2020
« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2017, 08:23:00 pm »
That's OK, if Trump is the nominee I'll be voting 3rd party anyway.

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Re: White House warns ‘potentially ambitious’ Republicans about 2020
« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2017, 08:39:53 pm »
Not a good sign though. I remember reading that Carter was almost primaried in 1980 by Kennedy and he went on to lose.

Bush was primaried by Buchanan in 92.

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Re: White House warns ‘potentially ambitious’ Republicans about 2020
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2017, 08:48:09 pm »
That's OK, if Trump is the nominee I'll be voting 3rd party anyway.

I'll be interested to see what happens in my county.  It's been very reliably red since WWII ended.  Romney carried Johnson County, Kansas by 18 points in 2012.  Trump only carried it by 2.5 in November.  The 3rd party voters also increased dramatically.  If he doesn't follow through on important campaign agenda points, it may go blue.
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Re: White House warns ‘potentially ambitious’ Republicans about 2020
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2017, 09:01:52 pm »
That's OK, if Trump is the nominee I'll be voting 3rd party anyway.

To the great glee and comfort of Dems/Libs everywhere.
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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2017, 09:10:35 pm »
To the great glee and comfort of Dems/Libs everywhere.

Look at the margins in 'the blue wall' and tell me you believe those Stein voters didn't kneecap Hillary.  They sure as hell weren't disgruntled conservatives.
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Re: White House warns ‘potentially ambitious’ Republicans about 2020
« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2017, 09:19:56 pm »
That's OK, if Trump is the nominee I'll be voting 3rd party anyway.

I didn't vote for him last time and there is no way in hell I'll vote for him next time.

If the next three and a half years of the Trump administration are any thing like the first six months and the country reelects this fool then the country is stuck on stupid...

Voting 3rd party may be the only way a Conservative could look at his/her self in the mirror every morning.. :shrug:

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« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2017, 01:21:14 pm »
I didn't vote for him last time and there is no way in hell I'll vote for him next time.

If the next three and a half years of the Trump administration are any thing like the first six months and the country reelects this fool then the country is stuck on stupid...

Voting 3rd party may be the only way a Conservative could look at his/her self in the mirror every morning.. :shrug:

So, you prefer Garland over Gorsuch. Vastly increased illegal immigration over vastly reduced immigration. You prefer a President who powerfully advocates Obamacare on a path to single payer vs one who opposes both...and apparently prefer a pro abortion president vs one opposing abortion. Further, you must want more restrictions on coal and fossil fuel production, a weaker military and a more pro jihad foreign policy...and markets that are less free and more state managed...because that is precisely what your 3rd party vote effects.


What we face is not a choice between Trump and the perfect conservative...but rather...a choice between Trump and someone like Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. Your vote is yours to do with as you please, of course...but let's not pretend it does anything but help the Left and make YOU feel above it all and ideologically pure. There's nothing ethical about casting a vote that elevates the Left's agenda...which is precisely what a conservative vote cast for a 3rd party does. Your "intention" may be honorable, but its actual effect is to advance liberalism.
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Re: White House warns ‘potentially ambitious’ Republicans about 2020
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2017, 01:44:40 pm »
So, you prefer Garland over Gorsuch. Vastly increased illegal immigration over vastly reduced immigration. You prefer a President who powerfully advocates Obamacare on a path to single payer vs one who opposes both...and apparently prefer a pro abortion president vs one opposing abortion. Further, you must want more restrictions on coal and fossil fuel production, a weaker military and a more pro jihad foreign policy...and markets that are less free and more state managed...because that is precisely what your 3rd party vote effects.


What we face is not a choice between Trump and the perfect conservative...but rather...a choice between Trump and someone like Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. Your vote is yours to do with as you please, of course...but let's not pretend it does anything but help the Left and make YOU feel above it all and ideologically pure. There's nothing ethical about casting a vote that elevates the Left's agenda...which is precisely what a conservative vote cast for a 3rd party does. Your "intention" may be honorable, but its actual effect is to advance liberalism.

I was gonna say something similar but deferred, since you framed the issue so perfectly well.

I felt the same about conservatives voting for Ross Perot. I think it was a factor in giving us Clinton in at least the '92 election.

It's interesting to note that Perot is now a republican and has been since 2000.
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Re: White House warns ‘potentially ambitious’ Republicans about 2020
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2017, 02:06:40 pm »
Maybe the coward would like to warn the voters while he's at it.

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« Reply #14 on: August 06, 2017, 02:17:12 pm »
Maybe the coward would like to warn the voters while he's at it.

No need, as voters are generally smarter than "ambitious Republicans". You see, Trump has been pushing the conservative agenda ferociously....its the "Republicans" in the Senate who've been undermining and in cases like Ocare, halting that push. So if you really want conservative issues made into law, you need to vote for more reliable Republican Senators and Congressman....because our Republican president is fighting his guts out for the conservative cause. And he's doing so in the face of childish NT self promoters (McCain, Graham, Flake, Collins, Murkowski) in his own party who are undermining attempts at conservative legislation.
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Re: White House warns ‘potentially ambitious’ Republicans about 2020
« Reply #15 on: August 06, 2017, 02:20:27 pm »
That's OK, if Trump is the nominee I'll be voting 3rd party anyway.

Me too.

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« Reply #16 on: August 06, 2017, 02:23:54 pm »
Me too.

Looks like it'll be up to the deplorables to save the nation from socialism and globalism again.

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« Reply #17 on: August 06, 2017, 02:26:39 pm »
Looks like it'll be up to the deplorables to save the nation from socialism and globalism again.

No worries.   :patriot:

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« Reply #18 on: August 06, 2017, 04:55:38 pm »
Riiiight. Have fun. But take your clothes off outside when you get back... Wouldn't want to track all that bullsh*t through your house.  :seeya:

There's a war going on for the soul of the country, and voting 3rd party is akin to playing your fiddle while Rome burns. Can't really blame you, it takes courage to jump into the fight...and the sense to realize all of your allies aren't saints and perfect angels, though they are ALL fighting for common goals like real borders, the end of gov't healthcare, conservative courts, less regulation and markets that are more free....but heck, that takes maturity and experience to recognize.

So sit on the sidelines and pass judgement. Wear your halo of ideological perfection. Sip your tea and play your fiddle while the rest of us actually fight for the values I listed above...and yes, we fight alongside an uncouth, obnoxious, often egocentric and eccentric....President who is fighting like Abraham Lincoln once fought for the preservation of all those things we ALL hold dear. You never get to fight key battles with the army you want, you fight them with the army you got...and if you lack the guts to do that then you are right to think you're safer hiding on the sidelines with a 3rd party candidate. 

And that ain't an ounce of bullship, its just the cold hard truth of the situation.

Notice this...its the moderates (Murkowski, Collins, Flake, McCain, Graham) who are fighting against the president...and it isn't because his agenda is too moderate or liberal. Its because they fear his conservative agenda and want to thwart it at its roots...the "conservatives" like Cruz, Paul (fiscally conservative at least), and others are setting aside their personal whims and are fighting WITH the president to move his agenda forward. They do so, because they have the maturity and courage to set aside personal whims for the sake of the country. That's what good and wise men and women do.
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« Reply #19 on: August 06, 2017, 05:23:03 pm »
There's a war going on for the soul of the country, and voting 3rd party is akin to playing your fiddle while Rome burns.

Why Rome burns is because it is Rome. I will not fight to make it Rome yet again.

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So sit on the sidelines and pass judgement. Wear your halo of ideological perfection. Sip your tea and play your fiddle while the rest of us actually fight for the values I listed above...

I am not sitting on the sidelines. I am fixin to crawl back into the sticks. What y'all believe upon is indefensible.

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And that ain't an ounce of bullship, its just the cold hard truth of the situation.

Yeah, it is... 100% hi-grade bullcrap. Every word of it.

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Notice this...its the moderates (Murkowski, Collins, Flake, McCain, Graham) who are fighting against the president...and it isn't because his agenda is too moderate or liberal. Its because they fear his conservative agenda and want to thwart it at its roots..

More bullcrap. EVERYONE is fighting Trump, not just the dems, not just the RINOs...
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Re: White House warns ‘potentially ambitious’ Republicans about 2020
« Reply #20 on: August 06, 2017, 05:39:36 pm »
There's a war going on for the soul of the country, and voting 3rd party is akin to playing your fiddle while Rome burns.

Voting for your party is an exercise in watching them throw gas on the conflagration while sipping lattes watching it all burn.

Anyone who thinks 'voting' is how you save the 'soul' of the country is an ignorant imbecile.

Besides, your prince and people like you told us to get out of your party - we obliged.  Your party is as corrupt and Socialist as the Democrats, just not quite as Marxist.


it takes courage to jump into the fight...

You make me laugh.  Seig-heiling your party and politicians while bitching about intransigent Conservatives who refuse to genuflect is hardly 'fighting'. 

You're cheerleading.  That's all.


though they are ALL fighting for common goals like real borders, the end of gov't healthcare...

Give your insipid talking points a rest.  Your party has shown us, they are not going to close the borders and they certainly not going to end government healthcare.  You're just spouting bullshit.


So sit on the sidelines and pass judgement.

It's where your party told us to go first of all, and secondly - judging your party to be as useless, corrupt and the lesser evil of Marxist Democrats is precisely why we're voting third party and working to get as many people to dump your Uniparty shell game.

Sip your tea and play your fiddle while the rest of us actually fight for the values I listed above...and yes, we fight alongside an uncouth, obnoxious, often egocentric and eccentric....President

As I said above, you are not fighting, you are not fighters.  You are sycophants engaged in synchronized cheerleading.  That's all.

You never get to fight key battles with the army you want, you fight them with the army you got...

We don't want anything to do with 'your army'.  We fight our own battles to preserve our liberty, we don't require surrendering our principles to hitch them to politicians and party to 'fight' on our behalf from Washington.  All you people demonstrate you are is a seig-heiling mob of cheerleaders.

if you lack the guts to do that then you are right to think you're safer hiding on the sidelines with a 3rd party candidate. 

Listen, a lot of us were in the trenches in Democrat strongholds as GOP precinct captains knocking on doors and pushing GOP party candidates and slugging it out (literally) with Union thugs and corrupt county election judges for DECADES - so you can take your charge of lacking guts and shove that sentiment clear up into your own.

We're no longer going to associate with a corrupt party and people who think they can better manage socialism while stabbing us in the back, telling us to shut up, exclaiming that we need to be punched in the nose while wannabe drill sergeants like yourself think you can browbeat and shame the principled into capitulating to support your political messiahs yet again.

Now if you want to be stupid enough to fight in an effort to force us back into conscription into your party of better-managed Socialism - we will be happy to resist and demonstrate what an actual fight really looks like.

Because you have no clue.

All you know to do is wave pom-poms, thinking yourself popular and knock books out of hands in the hallways while shouting about how clumsy your victim is.

Morons like that end up discovering what a real fight is.
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« Reply #21 on: August 06, 2017, 05:45:06 pm »
@roamer_1

Everyone is fighting Trump because he's the source of endless chaos.

Meanwhile Julian Assange is peeking out from behind Putin's jockstrap threatening violence with Roger stone happily echoing it to the cheers of thousands of followers.

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« Reply #22 on: August 06, 2017, 06:11:23 pm »
@roamer_1

Everyone is fighting Trump because he's the source of endless chaos.

That's right - and purposefully so.

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Meanwhile Julian Assange is peeking out from behind Putin's jockstrap threatening violence with Roger stone happily echoing it to the cheers of thousands of followers.

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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2017, 06:18:14 pm »
So, you prefer Garland over Gorsuch. Vastly increased illegal immigration over vastly reduced immigration. You prefer a President who powerfully advocates Obamacare on a path to single payer vs one who opposes both...and apparently prefer a pro abortion president vs one opposing abortion. Further, you must want more restrictions on coal and fossil fuel production, a weaker military and a more pro jihad foreign policy...and markets that are less free and more state managed...because that is precisely what your 3rd party vote effects.


What we face is not a choice between Trump and the perfect conservative...but rather...a choice between Trump and someone like Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders. Your vote is yours to do with as you please, of course...but let's not pretend it does anything but help the Left and make YOU feel above it all and ideologically pure. There's nothing ethical about casting a vote that elevates the Left's agenda...which is precisely what a conservative vote cast for a 3rd party does. Your "intention" may be honorable, but its actual effect is to advance liberalism.

Amen, brother.  Trump's faults right now are mostly self-created by his incessant and often stupid tweeting.  That and his inability to influence Congress in his direction are the main wrong things in his first 6/7 months.

I think the thing I dislike most about Never Trumpers is their vast sense of ideological purity and self-righteousness.

I think most of the people who spout off about voting third party or not voting are doing just that ... spouting off.

Because most people who post here have at least a little sense and surely know that either of those votes is just voting for democrats.

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« Reply #24 on: August 06, 2017, 06:23:22 pm »
Because most people who post here have at least a little sense and surely know that either of those votes is just voting for democrats.

No, voting for Trump is voting for Democrats.