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Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« on: July 28, 2017, 05:20:07 am »
Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump

By Rod Dreher • July 27, 2017, 11:01 PM


I don’t know that I have ever read a more devastating takedown of a president than this one by Peggy Noonan, of Donald Trump. She annihilates him, as only a woman could, and as only a fellow New Yorker could. She knows that to liken a New York male like Donald Trump to Woody Allen (without the sense of humor) is about the lowest blow there is. But nearly every line is savage. Excerpts:

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/peggy-noonan-humiliates-trump/

Original content here but you have to have a Wall Street Subscription and I don‘t.:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-is-woody-allen-without-the-humor-1501193193

If anyone can  find the original story without subscription please post.  It said twitter too but couldn’t find it.

This is where we are now.  The reality of who Donald Trump is.
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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2017, 06:24:47 am »
Yawn! What's this woman going to say? Talk about Hitler?
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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2017, 10:34:40 am »
The original article is behind a paywall so I can't read it.

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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2017, 11:01:29 am »
Yawn! What's this woman going to say? Talk about Hitler?

The excerpts in the American Conservative article are spot on.  Trump supporters should read it.  Take off the blinders.  Your hero is off the rails.  He is not "winning."

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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2017, 11:13:19 am »
The excerpts in the American Conservative article are spot on.  Trump supporters should read it.  Take off the blinders.  Your hero is off the rails.  He is not "winning."

Yes I can't read the original article but it seems pretty spot on.

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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2017, 11:17:28 am »
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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2017, 11:21:38 am »
Trump is an indictment of the entire rotten ideology imo. If s true that many conservatives didn't support trump, but a helluva a lot of its biggest figures did.

Trump is the conservatives equivalent to jimmy carter.

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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2017, 11:54:51 am »
Let me know when Trump marries his step daughter. Until then there is no comparison.

Peggy Noonan is just another NeverTrumper with zero, I say again ZERO credibility when it comes to anything Trump.

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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2017, 12:00:25 pm »
Now even I have to say this is a completely unfair characterization.  Woody Allen's talkative, nervousness was just a comedic act.  I wouldn't insult Allen this way. Unfair! Sad!

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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2017, 12:23:28 pm »
Let me know when Trump marries his step daughter. Until then there is no comparison.

Wow, you're right!  He's even creepier than Woody Allen -- he digs his biological daughter!



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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2017, 12:26:38 pm »
There's no better political writer in America today than Peggy Noonan.  There's no better source of great conservative commentary than the Wall Street Journal. 

The WSJ is the one organ that any self-described conservative should be willing to pay for.  I get mine delivered to my doorstep each morning.   Do yourself a favor, folks, and remove the paywall so you can dig the WSJ's style.   It's the voice of conservative reason. 

As for Peggy Noonan,  she's got integrity in buckets.   If folks like her would work for the Administration (as she did for Reagan), a new day would dawn.   WHY OH WHY IS TRUMP BLOWING IT?     
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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2017, 12:41:18 pm »
There's no better political writer in America today than Peggy Noonan.  There's no better source of great conservative commentary than the Wall Street Journal. 

The WSJ is the one organ that any self-described conservative should be willing to pay for.  I get mine delivered to my doorstep each morning.   Do yourself a favor, folks, and remove the paywall so you can dig the WSJ's style.   It's the voice of conservative reason. 

As for Peggy Noonan,  she's got integrity in buckets.   If folks like her would work for the Administration (as she did for Reagan), a new day would dawn.   WHY OH WHY IS TRUMP BLOWING IT?     

I haven't read the article 'cause I won't subscribe. Maybe its spot on, maybe not.

But I differ completely on your opinion of the WSJ - what you say may have been true 30 years ago when Vermont Royster was the editor emeritus. Since its become no more 'conservative' than the CSM or USA Today.

As for Noonan, credibility in buckets? Remember how she crowed about Barack Obama in 2008? "Fresh new face" and all. Please.
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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2017, 12:47:55 pm »
Read the WSJ, skeeter.  Their editorial and commentary pages are the finest conservative voices in the country.  Not 30 years ago.  Now.   But since you won't subscribe I have to ask -  why the willful ignorance?   
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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2017, 12:50:03 pm »
There's no better political writer in America today than Peggy Noonan.  There's no better source of great conservative commentary than the Wall Street Journal. 

The WSJ is the one organ that any self-described conservative should be willing to pay for.  I get mine delivered to my doorstep each morning.   Do yourself a favor, folks, and remove the paywall so you can dig the WSJ's style.   It's the voice of conservative reason. 

As for Peggy Noonan,  she's got integrity in buckets.   If folks like her would work for the Administration (as she did for Reagan), a new day would dawn.   WHY OH WHY IS TRUMP BLOWING IT?     

There are better than Noonan, but I agree in general that the WSJ is worth reading, although I do get tired of paying for the space that is wasted by the obligatory token liberals.

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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2017, 12:54:13 pm »
Read the WSJ, skeeter.  Their editorial and commentary pages are the finest conservative voices in the country.  Not 30 years ago.  Now.   But since you won't subscribe I have to ask -  why the willful ignorance?

Do you have a subscription the Chrisitian Science Monitor? Forbes? Guardian? If not, why the willful ignorance?

I don't subscribe to the WSJ (anymore) because I disagreed with the direction they began taking decades ago.

I won't subscribe to read Noonan's article because I realized years ago she was a bloviating drama queen who wasn't nearly as principled as I had once thought.

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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2017, 01:00:25 pm »
Noonan's the first thing I read every Saturday morning.   

Her series of articles last year about the Trump phenomenon, many of which I disagreed with at the time (I was far more NeverTrump than she was), were in hindsight the most prescient analysis of the election season.   
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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #16 on: July 28, 2017, 01:08:52 pm »
Noonan's the first thing I read every Saturday morning.   

Her series of articles last year about the Trump phenomenon, many of which I disagreed with at the time (I was far more NeverTrump than she was), were in hindsight the most prescient analysis of the election season.

Why am I not surprised?

Reading your posts feels like a thousand points of light in my eye on a near daily basis.

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« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2017, 01:28:13 pm »
Why am I not surprised?

Reading your posts feels like a thousand points of light in my eye on a near daily basis.

Sorry if I don't stick to the script required of a conservative in your eyes.  But thanks for reading.   

Noonan thinks for herself.   She is nuanced and pragmatic, yet at her core is a principled Catholic and conservative.  She always challenges my thinking.  The last thing I want to read is "conservative" pap.   
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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2017, 01:37:04 pm »
Peggy Noonan Conservative, hmmm.

What day is it - is today her Conservative day?  In my opinion she blows with the wind and you can't tell from one article to the next if Pocahontas had ghost written her article or Tammy Bruce.

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« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2017, 01:40:48 pm »
Sorry if I don't stick to the script required of a conservative in your eyes.  But thanks for reading.   

Noonan thinks for herself.   She is nuanced and pragmatic, yet at her core is a principled Catholic and conservative.  She always challenges my thinking.  The last thing I want to read is "conservative" pap.

Jazzhead, you reveal yourself in that comment.  Conservatism is not a "script" nor is it pap.  It's a belief in certain immutable principles.  Not that it's exactly news, but that's the part that you don't understand.

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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #21 on: July 28, 2017, 01:41:52 pm »
He’s not strong and self-controlled, not cool and tough, not low-key and determined; he’s whiny, weepy and self-pitying. He throws himself, sobbing, on the body politic. He’s a drama queen.

I keep thinking there is a method to his madness, but then the chaos just gets worse and worse (the latest Scaramucci tirade, for example), so I just don't know.  Trump does sell a lot of ads on cable TV, and I wouldn't be surprised if he serves two terms just because a slim majority of both his detractors and admirers would hate to see him go.  A lot of people love to hate, evidenced by the ratings at MSNBC, and what would they have without Trump?

We have transitioned from the age of audacity to the age of absurdity.  What might follow the age of absurdity scares the piss out of me, but oh well.  We have already been bankrupted by several generations of corrupt politicians, so who the hell cares?

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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2017, 01:42:08 pm »
Sorry if I don't stick to the script required of a conservative in your eyes.  But thanks for reading.   

Noonan thinks for herself.   She is nuanced and pragmatic, yet at her core is a principled Catholic and conservative.  She always challenges my thinking.  The last thing I want to read is "conservative" pap.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122539802263585317

I knew Obama was a America hating maoist punk who attended a black supremacist, jew hating church. I knew it before October 2008.

Its odd that the principled, nuanced and pragmatic Peggy Noonan seemed to know none of these things.

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Re: Conservative Woman Publicly Humiliates Trump
« Reply #23 on: July 28, 2017, 01:42:21 pm »
Read the WSJ, skeeter.  Their editorial and commentary pages are the finest conservative voices in the country.  Not 30 years ago.  Now.   But since you won't subscribe I have to ask -  why the willful ignorance?

HUH  there is NOTHING out of the liberal cesspool of NYC that qualifies as "the finest conservative voices in the country"

There are some good conservatives there but a conservative in NYC is a raging liberal nearly everywhere else.
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« Reply #24 on: July 28, 2017, 01:45:10 pm »
Conservatism is not a "script" nor is it pap. 

Exactly, Sanguine.   That's my point - and why I urge thoughtful conservatives to read the WSJ.   
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