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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #100 on: July 23, 2017, 05:43:59 pm »
Why are whining snowflakes making this all about Ted Cruz @Emjay?  Where is the defense of the US Constitution among these people?  Or is love of the Constitution another fly-by-night "principle" to be discarded to fit the star of their cult of personality?

OK, well enlighten us, @Right_in_Virginia.  You are making it "all about Cruz".  Why?

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #101 on: July 23, 2017, 06:01:09 pm »
OK, well enlighten us, @Right_in_Virginia.  You are making it "all about Cruz".  Why?

Because snowflakes do @Sanguine ... they cannot see the Constitution for love of one politician.

While I don't expect it, step away from the cult, and we can discuss Section 1 article 2 of the US Constitution rationally, minus the tsunami of accusation and emotion.

Clear enough?

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #102 on: July 23, 2017, 06:08:59 pm »
The constitution gave the authority to congress to define citizenship. Congress has made adjustments to the citizenship laws over the years and sets the legal definition. Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth under US law at the time making him "natural born" because no other action was required to give him citizenship. Canadian law nor any other country's law matters in that determination. And I'll add, the courts have affirmed that.

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #103 on: July 23, 2017, 06:38:50 pm »
Because snowflakes do @Sanguine ... they cannot see the Constitution for love of one politician.

While I don't expect it, step away from the cult, and we can discuss Section 1 article 2 of the US Constitution rationally, minus the tsunami of accusation and emotion.

Clear enough?

No, not really.  You are the one who keeps bring up Cruz.  So, you're admitting you're a snowflake?  I do admire your honesty.

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #104 on: July 23, 2017, 06:58:01 pm »
No, not really.  .../

Well, since nothing I post is clear enough for you @Sanguine ,  there isn't any point to continuing our conversation...  :seeya:

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #105 on: July 23, 2017, 06:58:38 pm »
Why are whining snowflakes making this all about Ted Cruz @Emjay?  Where is the defense of the US Constitution among these people?  Or is love of the Constitution another fly-by-night "principle" to be discarded to fit the star of their cult of personality?

Because Ted Cruz has been the Man in the Senate.  He has devised a way to make the Health Care plan palatable to most of us. 

If you want to cling to the hope that he is not qualified to be President, well, cling on, but you know it's been decided by many courts.

And you are an odd person to talk about the Cult of Personality.
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #106 on: July 23, 2017, 07:05:14 pm »
Because Ted Cruz has been the Man in the Senate.  He has devised a way to make the Health Care plan palatable to most of us. 

If you want to cling to the hope that he is not qualified to be President, well, cling on, but you know it's been decided by many courts.

And you are an odd person to talk about the Cult of Personality.

Yes, I was a bit surprised by that too..

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #107 on: July 23, 2017, 07:09:36 pm »
Because Ted Cruz has been the Man in the Senate.  He has devised a way to make the Health Care plan palatable to most of us.

Agree.  I'm very glad he's there.  And I'm equally happy there's no Constitutional conflict with it. 

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If you want to cling to the hope that he is not qualified to be President, well, cling on, but you know it's been decided by many courts.

I'm not clinging to that @Emjay.  It saddens me.  And there has been no definitive court decision on the definition of NBC.  If the times comes when this is litigated by the highest court, I hope our side removes emotion and devotion to one politician and is able to see the future ramifications of dumbing down the definition to include naturalized citizens from around the world.

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And you are an odd person to talk about the Cult of Personality.

Well, in all candor Emjay, my being labeled a "cultist" by members of the Cult of Ted Cruz has always amused me....and it feels good to finally share this.  Thanks for the opportunity.   :laugh:

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #108 on: July 23, 2017, 07:15:11 pm »
Agree.  I'm very glad he's there.  And I'm equally happy there's no Constitutional conflict with it. 

I'm not clinging to that @Emjay.  It saddens me.  And there has been no definitive court decision on the definition of NBC.  If the times comes when this is litigated by the highest court, I hope our side removes emotion and devotion to one politician and is able to see the future ramifications of dumbing down the definition to include naturalized citizens from around the world.

Well, in all candor Emjay, my being labeled a "cultist" by members of the Cult of Ted Cruz has always amused me....and it feels good to finally share this.  Thanks for the opportunity.   :laugh:

There is no Cult of Ted Cruz.  There are large numbers of people, getting larger all the time, who finally recognize that Ted Cruz would be as close to a perfect President as we'll ever get.

He knows every inch of the Constitution (you would wrongly hold against him)... in fact, memorized it when he was just a kid.

He's brilliant and able to understand complicated issues and look at them from the viewpoint of a true conservative.

He's funny and personable, honest and a good family man.

And trumpers are absolutely terrified of him.
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #109 on: July 23, 2017, 07:24:31 pm »
There is no Cult of Ted Cruz.  There are large numbers of people, getting larger all the time, who finally recognize that Ted Cruz would be as close to a perfect President as we'll ever get. .../

Silly argument @Emjay ... "Close to prefect" in the political realm is the very essence of "cult"   No Membership Chairmanship for you!!!  LOL   :silly:

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #110 on: July 23, 2017, 07:32:03 pm »
Silly argument @Emjay ... "Close to prefect" in the political realm is the very essence of "cult"   No Membership Chairmanship for you!!!  LOL   :silly:

Let me see if I have this right.

Admiring Ted Cruz for the genuine qualities he possesses makes one a cultist.
Excusing Trump for every misstep makes one... what ...a rational human being.

Sometimes it seems like you have some sense but I guess the magic words 'Ted Cruz' brings out the flat out crazy in you.

You'll have to continue this ridiculous argument with someone else, though.

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #111 on: July 23, 2017, 07:34:14 pm »

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #112 on: July 23, 2017, 07:38:43 pm »
:bighug: for you @Emjay    :laugh:

@Right_in_Virginia, now that is weird behavior.  First you try to insult and then you want to do a big hug?  Why?

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #113 on: July 23, 2017, 07:42:07 pm »
Had there been a "cult of Ted Cruz," perhaps he'd become the president.


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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #114 on: July 23, 2017, 07:44:04 pm »
@Right_in_Virginia, now that is weird behavior.  First you try to insult and then you want to do a big hug?  Why?

It's the southern equivalent of 'bless your heart.'
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #115 on: July 23, 2017, 08:01:32 pm »
IMHO, Sessions recused himself because he's under threat from his former colleagues from across the aisle.

[snip] Last year, after President-elect Trump picked Jeff Sessions to be attorney general, The New York Times editorial page called the Alabama senator "radical" and "extreme" and tarred him as an unrepentant racist and xenophobe.

Last week, after Trump criticized Sessions and others, the same editorial page suddenly discovered a new fondness for Sessions. The Times now insisted that Trump had impugned his "integrity" and that of others "who have spent their careers respecting and protecting" the law. [/snip]

http://nypost.com/2017/07/22/exposing-the-new-york-times-hypocrisy-on-jeff-sessions/
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #116 on: July 23, 2017, 09:19:09 pm »
It's the southern equivalent of 'bless your heart.'

    You certainly proved, to me anyway, that you have big ovaries @Emjay, to argue with RiV, I have to be drunk to do that and the blowback is to high a price, I usually just leave her to her fantasies, they are usually non fatal. @Right_in_Virginia
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #117 on: July 24, 2017, 12:38:44 am »
    You certainly proved, to me anyway, that you have big ovaries @Emjay, to argue with RiV, I have to be drunk to do that and the blowback is to high a price, I usually just leave her to her fantasies, they are usually non fatal. @Right_in_Virginia

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #118 on: July 24, 2017, 09:01:28 am »
Because snowflakes do @Sanguine ... they cannot see the Constitution for love of one politician.

While I don't expect it, step away from the cult, and we can discuss Section 1 article 2 of the US Constitution rationally, minus the tsunami of accusation and emotion.

Clear enough?

You do realize you just described yourself self perfectly don't you?
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #119 on: July 24, 2017, 09:06:47 am »




@txradioguy

You're so freaking predictable.

But then most cultists are.
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #120 on: July 24, 2017, 09:10:58 am »
You're so freaking predictable.

But then most cultists are.

You would know @txradioguy ...much better than I.   

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #121 on: July 24, 2017, 09:13:02 am »
It's the southern equivalent of 'bless your heart.'

Actually, it's the northern equivalent ... but close enough @Emjay   Close enough.   ^-^

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #122 on: July 24, 2017, 09:14:24 am »
You do realize you just described yourself self perfectly don't you?

Ah, no @txradioguy   I'm not the one willing to discard the Constitution for one politician.  You are.   :shrug:

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #123 on: July 24, 2017, 09:16:03 am »
    You certainly proved, to me anyway, that you have big ovaries @Emjay, to argue with RiV, I have to be drunk to do that and the blowback is to high a price, I usually just leave her to her fantasies, they are usually non fatal. @Right_in_Virginia

Were you drunk when you posted this @corbe?   :pondering:

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #124 on: July 24, 2017, 09:17:51 am »
Ah, no @txradioguy   I'm not the one willing to discard the Constitution for one politician.  You are.   :shrug:

What constitution is that?

Here's the truth since you seemed to have missed it up thread:

The constitution gave the authority to congress to define citizenship. Congress has made adjustments to the citizenship laws over the years and sets the legal definition. Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth under US law at the time making him "natural born" because no other action was required to give him citizenship. Canadian law nor any other country's law matters in that determination. And I'll add, the courts have affirmed that.