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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #75 on: July 22, 2017, 08:13:42 pm »
But of course the son of a Cuban born in Canada is a natural born citizen of the United States \s

The founders of this country would not even consider Cruz a citizen! You have no respect what so ever for our Constitution. You're willing to crap all over it when it suits your purpose.
Mitt Romney's father George was born in Mexico, and ran in 1968.

An extensive legal opinion was written at the time, that he was NOT ELIGIBLE. He did not do well, and dropped out before the issue of his eligibility became an issue.

Mexico or Cuba, are not like Hawaii.

So it is a very well informed position to take that Cruz is not eligible, and believing this is not "alt right" or any other childish BS that Cruz ardent supporters can push.

I don't make claims to be a legal expert. But the ones writing the Romney opinion WERE legal experts.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/five-other-presidential-birther-controversies-from-american-history

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/03/23/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-ted-cruz-birther-movement/?utm_term=.8fdd6640bbba
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #76 on: July 22, 2017, 09:31:19 pm »
A number of courts have already ruled him eligible. 
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« Reply #77 on: July 22, 2017, 09:37:36 pm »
Sessions is garbage and needs to go. Surprised so many here have a fetish for civil asset forfeiture.

 :beer:  I have felt at times that Sessions may have been one of the "leakers" ... also Trump selected Rosenstein as deputy AG .... I question why the heck he keeps picking people from the swamp.
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #78 on: July 22, 2017, 09:39:39 pm »
A number of courts have already ruled him eligible.

A number of courts and supervisors of elections who allowed him to qualify to be on the ballot in all 50 states.  Done deal.
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« Reply #79 on: July 22, 2017, 09:40:05 pm »
Mitt Romney's father George was born in Mexico, and ran in 1968.

An extensive legal opinion was written at the time, that he was NOT ELIGIBLE. He did not do well, and dropped out before the issue of his eligibility became an issue.

Mexico or Cuba, are not like Hawaii.

So it is a very well informed position to take that Cruz is not eligible, and believing this is not "alt right" or any other childish BS that Cruz ardent supporters can push.

I don't make claims to be a legal expert. But the ones writing the Romney opinion WERE legal experts.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/five-other-presidential-birther-controversies-from-american-history

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/03/23/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-ted-cruz-birther-movement/?utm_term=.8fdd6640bbba

The constitution gave the authority to congress to define citizenship. Congress has made adjustments to the citizenship laws over the years and sets the legal definition. Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth under US law at the time making him "natural born" because no other action was required to give him citizenship. Canadian law nor any other country's law matters in that determination. And I'll add, the courts have affirmed that.
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« Reply #80 on: July 22, 2017, 11:37:34 pm »
You call it "slander" to describe a legal opinion that Calgary born Cruz is not eligible to be President.

It is an opinion, not a slander.

It is an opinion... and it is a wrong opinion  and it is used to Slander.
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« Reply #81 on: July 23, 2017, 01:44:29 am »
:beer:  I have felt at times that Sessions may have been one of the "leakers" ... also Trump selected Rosenstein as deputy AG .... I question why the heck he keeps picking people from the swamp.

And, didn't Rosenstein select Mueller?  With no clearly defined parameters as to what he could investigate?

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« Reply #82 on: July 23, 2017, 02:12:07 am »
Mitt Romney's father George was born in Mexico, and ran in 1968.

An extensive legal opinion was written at the time, that he was NOT ELIGIBLE. He did not do well, and dropped out before the issue of his eligibility became an issue.

Mexico or Cuba, are not like Hawaii.

So it is a very well informed position to take that Cruz is not eligible, and believing this is not "alt right" or any other childish BS that Cruz ardent supporters can push.

I don't make claims to be a legal expert. But the ones writing the Romney opinion WERE legal experts.

https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/five-other-presidential-birther-controversies-from-american-history

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/03/23/everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-ted-cruz-birther-movement/?utm_term=.8fdd6640bbba

Why are fanatic Trumpers still clinging to this.  It doesn't matter anymore and they can bring it up again in 2020 when Cruz runs against Trump.
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« Reply #83 on: July 23, 2017, 02:17:31 am »
Why are fanatic Trumpers still clinging to this.  It doesn't matter anymore and they can bring it up again in 2020 when Cruz runs against Trump.

I don't think Trump will run again.  I think the rigors of the job are already getting to him.  It will be interesting - what will the anti-Cruzers do then?

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« Reply #84 on: July 23, 2017, 02:18:59 am »
Why are fanatic Trumpers still clinging to this.  It doesn't matter anymore and they can bring it up again in 2020 when Cruz runs against Trump.

I see no indication that Cruz will run for President in 2020. He's focused on reelection to the Senate, and thumping the Democrat from El Paso. To my knowledge, I can't recall an El Pasoan ever winning a state wide seat.
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« Reply #85 on: July 23, 2017, 02:22:30 am »
Why are fanatic Trumpers still clinging to this.  It doesn't matter anymore and they can bring it up again in 2020 when Cruz runs against Trump.
   

    This is what they do, the hate for Sen. Cruz is beyond skin deep, BUT, Trump will have to screw up pretty BAD for Ted to primary him in 2020, and I don't see that happening, the GOP is still functional and will go down with him if he (Trump) requests it.
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #86 on: July 23, 2017, 02:22:52 am »
I see no indication that Cruz will run for President in 2020. He's focused on reelection to the Senate, and thumping the Democrat from El Paso. To my knowledge, I can't recall an El Pasoan ever winning a state wide seat.

I think Ted Cruz wants to be president and I think he will be.  Not sure about 2020.  Depends on what happens with Trump.
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #87 on: July 23, 2017, 02:24:14 am »
   

    This is what they do, the hate for Sen. Cruz is beyond skin deep, BUT, Trump will have to screw up pretty BAD for Ted to primary him in 2020, and I don't see that happening, the GOP is still functional and will go down with him if he (Trump) requests it.
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Oh, I agree with that.  It totally depends on how Trump fares and if he decides to run again.  But Ted is quite young and he will run again.  Maybe not in 2020
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #88 on: July 23, 2017, 02:25:59 am »
I think Ted Cruz wants to be president and I think he will be.  Not sure about 2020.  Depends on what happens with Trump.

When Trump is done I doubt any Republican will win the Presidency for some time to come.

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #89 on: July 23, 2017, 02:29:53 am »
   Canada may be pretty tired of Trudeau by 2020, He may have a better chance of being Prime Minister up there.
   I hate the cold (107 in Texas today), but I'll move up there, screw this oligarchy. 
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #90 on: July 23, 2017, 02:32:36 am »
   Canada may be pretty tired of Trudeau by 2020, He may have a better chance of being Prime Minister up there.
   I hate the cold (107 in Texas today), but I'll move up there, screw this oligarchy.

Where is it 107? I only saw a reading of 100. Overall, we've had a mild summer IMO.
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« Reply #91 on: July 23, 2017, 02:33:44 am »
Where is it 107? I only saw a reading of 100. Overall, we've had a mild summer IMO.

Where are you?  It was 103 here today!

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #92 on: July 23, 2017, 02:48:11 am »
   New Braunfels, between Austin and San Antonio, where the Comal and the Guadalupe meet, that alone should give me a -5 degrees here, but my small lawn (Grass, don't read into that) keeps screaming. 
   It may just be those old Germans were incorrect in their R-Value of stacked sandstone blocks in my walls (1894), but at these temps, it's difficult for everyone here, I would think.

   *Heat Index  @Night Hides Not
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« Reply #93 on: July 23, 2017, 04:17:30 am »
I don't think Trump will run again.  I think the rigors of the job are already getting to him.  It will be interesting - what will the anti-Cruzers do then?

Interesting viewpoint but I'm not sure the rigors of the job are getting to Trump.  They are getting to me, Big Time.

I don't think stuff gets through to Trump... I think he wears a bubble of righteousness.  In spite of his two hour twitter fit this morning, I think he's okay with things.

Cruz will have a big advantage if and when he runs again.  He now has fame and name recognition that he didn't have when he entered the primaries this time.

And what the bloody heck is the drill with the anti-Cruzers.  It's beginning to tick me off.
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #94 on: July 23, 2017, 04:20:15 am »
   New Braunfels, between Austin and San Antonio, where the Comal and the Guadalupe meet, that alone should give me a -5 degrees here, but my small lawn (Grass, don't read into that) keeps screaming. 
   It may just be those old Germans were incorrect in their R-Value of stacked sandstone blocks in my walls (1894), but at these temps, it's difficult for everyone here, I would think.

   *Heat Index  @Night Hides Not

It's hotter than the hot place in Kihei.  Don't laugh but with a high of 88/89 and a humidity about the same, it's heatstroke weather.
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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #96 on: July 23, 2017, 05:22:48 am »
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The truth hasn't mattered to the left for some time. Anything it takes to get the desired goal is a-okay. Unfortunately that practice has also been accepted by many of today's Republicans. Trump is the embodiment of that.

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #97 on: July 23, 2017, 05:44:29 am »
Where are you?  It was 103 here today!

Apologies for the late reply. We're up in Spokane on vacation. Just got back from "The Kennel", where Gonzaga plays... my first time back in over 15 years. My 15 YO son is honing his skills at a basketball camp, and getting a taste of campus life...3 nights in a dorm. My 6 YO grandson is keeping us busy. He's a big Zag fan, more so after getting autographs and pictures with a half dozen players. They couldn't have been more accommodating.

We're heading back to Texas tomorrow, with stops at Little Big Horn and Mount Rushmore.
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« Reply #98 on: July 23, 2017, 03:16:27 pm »
Apologies for the late reply. We're up in Spokane on vacation. Just got back from "The Kennel", where Gonzaga plays... my first time back in over 15 years. My 15 YO son is honing his skills at a basketball camp, and getting a taste of campus life...3 nights in a dorm. My 6 YO grandson is keeping us busy. He's a big Zag fan, more so after getting autographs and pictures with a half dozen players. They couldn't have been more accommodating.

We're heading back to Texas tomorrow, with stops at Little Big Horn and Mount Rushmore.

Sounds like a great trip! 

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Re: Sessions: No plans to resign after Trump attack
« Reply #99 on: July 23, 2017, 05:40:59 pm »
Why are fanatic Trumpers still clinging to this. .../

Why are whining snowflakes making this all about Ted Cruz @Emjay?  Where is the defense of the US Constitution among these people?  Or is love of the Constitution another fly-by-night "principle" to be discarded to fit the star of their cult of personality?