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Trump Jr. pitch was part of broad Russian effort
« on: July 14, 2017, 12:40:25 pm »
Trump Jr. pitch was part of broad Russian effort
By John Solomon and Jonathan Easley - 07/13/17 07:00 PM EDT

Two months before Donald Trump Jr.’s encounter with a Russian figure, a key House subcommittee chairman received a similar overture in Moscow offering derogatory information about a U.S. policy that was upsetting Vladimir Putin.

Rep. Dana Rohrabacher, a California Republican with a reputation as a Moscow ally in Congress, told The Hill the information he received in April 2016 came from the chief prosecutor in Moscow and painted an alternative picture of the Russian fraud case that led to the passage of anti-Russia legislation in Congress known as the Magnitsky Act.

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Re: Trump Jr. pitch was part of broad Russian effort
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2017, 05:08:58 pm »
It hasn't helped them so far.  Trump sent a memorandum to Congress upholding and supporting the Act.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Trump Jr. pitch was part of broad Russian effort
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2017, 05:20:10 am »
Trump Jr. pitch was part of broad Russian effort
By John Solomon and Jonathan Easley - 07/13/17 07:00 PM EDT

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/341946-trump-jr-pitch-was-part-of-broad-russian-effort
So WHY did Don Jr's. meeting get leaked NOW?

WHEN a scandal breaks is almost always
at least as important as WHAT the scandal is.
Any time a scandal breaks, we should ALWAYS ask
why is this scandal coming out NOW?

Consider the timing:

Donald Trump makes a rousing speech in Poland
complimenting them for their resistance to Russian aggression.
(https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/07/06/remarks-president-trump-people-poland-july-6-2017)
Donald Trump then meets privately with Vladimir Putin
and likely doesn't agree to everything Putin wants
(like withdrawing the missile defense system Trump is putting back into Poland).
And NOW the meeting between Donald Jr. and some Russians
gets leaked to the media.
Looks to me like the leak is Russia retaliating against Trump's
strong stand against Russian bullying in Europe.


In June 2016, some Russians offered to Don Jr.
some "damaging info about Hillary."
The meeting is disappointing to the Trumps
but the Russians now have on record
Don Jr. eagerly accepting an offer to meet with some Russians.
Looks like the Russians offered this meeting
for the purpose of gaining leverage over the Trumps;
having some info they could use to blackmail the Trumps.


And now that Don Jr has released the email chain,
all of that leverage the Russians gained
has now evaporated.
Smart move.
The Trumps will NOT let Russia push us around!

Compare that with Obama telling Medvedev, "Tell Vladimir that
I will have more flexibility (to be pushed around) after the election."
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Re: Trump Jr. pitch was part of broad Russian effort
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2017, 09:50:33 am »
This stuff happens all the time and I still don't understand why this case is special.

Normally there is evidence of a crime before investigators start their work.  This is an investigation in search of a crime.

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Re: Trump Jr. pitch was part of broad Russian effort
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2017, 10:14:40 am »
So WHY did Don Jr's. meeting get leaked NOW?

Looks to me like the leak is Russia retaliating against Trump's
strong stand against Russian bullying in Europe.

The NYT reporter publicly whined about working on this for a year, only to have Trump Jr tweet out the main part of the story.  In order for what you've concluded to be true, the NYT and Russia would have to be the parties colluding actively on the release timing.
I disagree.  Circle gets the square.

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Re: Trump Jr. pitch was part of broad Russian effort
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2017, 10:33:15 am »
All Trump Jr had to is just forward the Email to the FBI...
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Re: Trump Jr. pitch was part of broad Russian effort
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2017, 03:11:12 pm »
The NYT reporter publicly whined about working on this for a year, only to have Trump Jr tweet out the main part of the story.  In order for what you've concluded to be true, the NYT and Russia would have to be the parties colluding actively on the release timing.

I would expect the NYT to have someone stationed at Trump Tower
monitoring who goes in and out.
That person probably noted the Russians going in,
but did not know if they were going to meet the Trumps,
or one of the tenants in the building, such as the Bank of China.

The reporter spent a year trying to find out who the Russians were there to meet,
when (I suspect) Russia tipped off the paper that the meeting took place.
The NYT did admit that they had the email chain
and were holding onto it,
before Don Jr. beat them to the release.

I would also expect that the NYT management
would keep their own reporters in the dark,
because the management routinely colludes with
Wall Street fat cats on all kinds of stories.

We should always remember:
The MSM does NOT practice actual journalism.
The MSM is the propaganda arm of the ruling clique.
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MI 6  Fred Upton    WA 3  Jaime Herrera Beutler    MI 3  Peter Meijer       NY 24  John Katko       CA 21  David Valadao