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GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« on: July 03, 2017, 01:37:12 pm »
Monday, 03 Jul 2017 09:11 AM

In firm control of the federal government, President Donald Trump and his Republican Party have so far failed to deliver on core campaign promises on health care, taxes and infrastructure. But in New York's Trump Tower cafe, the Gentry family blames Congress, not the president.

Like many Trump voters across America, the Alabama couple, vacationing last week with their three children, says they are deeply frustrated with the president's GOP allies, faulting them for derailing Trump's plans. As the family of five lunched in Trump Tower, Sheila Gentry offered a pointed message to those concerned with the GOP's ability to govern five months into the Trump presidency.

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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2017, 01:42:18 pm »
GOP, i.e. McConnell and Ryan, have only themselves to blame. Their only platform for six years was repealing Obamacare.

In the 60+ days between the election and Inauguration Day, the Republican majority had the time and opportunity to craft bills ready to be voted on and signed by the new President. They failed, not Trump.
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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2017, 01:48:55 pm »
I call this a lesson learned. Things where never meant to go fast or rammed down our throats and that is how is this Government was setup. Maybe people from Newsmax should learn a thing a two about Civics.
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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2017, 01:52:22 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on July 03, 2017, 01:42:18 pm
GOP, i.e. McConnell and Ryan, have only themselves to blame. Their only platform for six years was repealing Obamacare.

In the 60+ days between the election and Inauguration Day, the Republican majority had the time and opportunity to craft bills ready to be voted on and signed by the new President. They failed, not Trump.

I find that a bit disingenuous.
As head of the party, Trump could very easily call for the displacement of leadership in both houses and the RNC. He's not. He's working with the RINOs.
And of couse, blame never seems to stop at Trump's desk, all too predictably.
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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2017, 01:56:22 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis on July 03, 2017, 01:48:55 pm
I call this a lesson learned. Things where never meant to go fast or rammed down our throats and that is how is this Government was setup. Maybe people from Newsmax should learn a thing a two about Civics.

The term deliberative body has an actual meaning.
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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2017, 01:58:47 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on July 03, 2017, 01:42:18 pm
GOP, i.e. McConnell and Ryan, have only themselves to blame. Their only platform for six years was repealing Obamacare.

In the 60+ days between the election and Inauguration Day, the Republican majority had the time and opportunity to craft bills ready to be voted on and signed by the new President. They failed, not Trump.

Absolutely true.
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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2017, 02:02:39 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on July 03, 2017, 01:56:22 pm
The term deliberative body has an actual meaning.


I used to think that the left didn't understand basic Civics 101.. I was wrong.
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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2017, 02:03:56 pm »
Like it or not sausage making is supposed to be an ugly process.

Still, I'd like to see Trump and other party heads call a spade a spade to clarify that process.  The media likes to use misleading terms such as "moderates" which intentionally deceives the public.  We need to fix that.

Within the Republican party there are 3 factions that should be clearly defined:

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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2017, 02:04:28 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 03, 2017, 01:52:22 pm
I find that a bit disingenuous.
As head of the party, Trump could very easily call for the displacement of leadership in both houses and the RNC. He's not. He's working with the RINOs.
And of couse, blame never seems to stop at Trump's desk, all too predictably.

Blaming Trump means they have to blame themselves.
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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2017, 02:04:41 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on July 03, 2017, 01:42:18 pm
GOP, i.e. McConnell and Ryan, have only themselves to blame. Their only platform for six years was repealing Obamacare.

In the 60+ days between the election and Inauguration Day, the Republican majority had the time and opportunity to craft bills ready to be voted on and signed by the new President. They failed, not Trump.

And they should have had at least the framework for doing that already in place on day one!  Damned right I blame the congressional "leadership"!
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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2017, 02:06:16 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis on July 03, 2017, 02:02:39 pm

I used to think that the left didn't understand basic Civics 101.. I was wrong.

I'm a freakin high school dropout and I have a far deeper understanding of civics than most people.
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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2017, 02:07:08 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on July 03, 2017, 01:52:22 pm
I find that a bit disingenuous.
As head of the party, Trump could very easily call for the displacement of leadership in both houses and the RNC. He's not. He's working with the RINOs.
And of couse, blame never seems to stop at Trump's desk, all too predictably.

Trump could also call for Congress to suspend its August recess, to keep them in town and work on repealing Obamacare. I think it would do those perfumed princes and princesses good.
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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2017, 02:11:57 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on July 03, 2017, 02:06:16 pm
I'm a freakin high school dropout and I have a far deeper understanding of civics than most people.


To me there is nothing wrong with debating and talking to people who has other ideas. Doesn't mean we have to adopt, but we need to listen and don't keep people out of the process  The dems got hammered in 2010 cause they ram things down our throat. If things don't get in 2018 then fine complain away.
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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2017, 02:21:46 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on July 03, 2017, 02:07:08 pm
Trump could also call for Congress to suspend its August recess, to keep them in town and work on repealing Obamacare. I think it would do those perfumed princes and princesses good.

He can call for anything he wants but has absolutely no control over what they do! That is entirely up to Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan.

I think many members of both the house and the senate have already requested that they do that but it's up to them to actually do it!   They COULD have them working 24/7 if they wanted to!  I'll assure you I would have them working at least 12 hours a day 6 days a week if I had the power!



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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2017, 08:19:16 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on July 03, 2017, 02:07:08 pm
Trump could also call for Congress to suspend its August recess, to keep them in town and work on repealing Obamacare. I think it would do those perfumed princes and princesses good.

Nah. Trump's entire play is a con. He's simply good at walking people down the garden path. And he's really not all that good at that.

If you can't hear that he's a con, and can't see that he's a con, Just look at where he's taking you... Look at the direction.
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Re: GOP Voters Blame Congress, Not Trump, for Lack of Progress
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2017, 09:28:24 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on July 03, 2017, 01:42:18 pm
GOP, i.e. McConnell and Ryan, have only themselves to blame. Their only platform for six years was repealing Obamacare.

In the 60+ days between the election and Inauguration Day, the Republican majority had the time and opportunity to craft bills ready to be voted on and signed by the new President. They failed, not Trump.

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