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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #75 on: June 30, 2017, 03:48:08 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on June 30, 2017, 03:44:49 pm
Yup.  And we have never been subjects since we won our independence...we've been citizens.

Some people don't get the difference there either.

Just to add to your comments...as bad as cowardice is, it still really only impacts the coward and his or her immediate circle of friends.  The subject who is begging to be ruled by a king is perfectly fine subjecting ALL of us to his or her preferences. 
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #76 on: June 30, 2017, 03:49:11 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on June 30, 2017, 03:42:35 pm
It always amazes me the people that complain about how much they hate a place or the people there...yet continue to come back and hang out at a place they supposedly despise....with people they supposedly can't stand.  :pondering:

Well, you know..... that's just all part of the troll gig.   Complaining about the place they're trolling is in the job description.   ^-^
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #77 on: June 30, 2017, 03:51:05 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on June 30, 2017, 03:42:54 pm
What is the problem?  If we can't get 100% then we go for 70%, right?  Pragmatism! Right?   *****rollingeyes*****

Right.  Cause.... 70% of a crap sammich is sooo much better than the whole sammich.  (lol)
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #78 on: June 30, 2017, 03:52:54 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on June 30, 2017, 03:21:41 pm
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Very eloquent statement from you there.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #79 on: June 30, 2017, 03:53:11 pm »
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #80 on: June 30, 2017, 03:53:31 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on June 30, 2017, 03:51:05 pm
Right.  Cause.... 70% of a crap sammich is sooo much better than the whole sammich.  (lol)

I wasn't that hungry anyway.  :|
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #81 on: June 30, 2017, 03:55:21 pm »
Quote from: RoosGirl on June 30, 2017, 03:53:31 pm
I wasn't that hungry anyway.  :|

Yeah....I can relate.   ^-^
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #82 on: June 30, 2017, 04:18:15 pm »
Quote from: CSM on June 30, 2017, 03:25:41 pm
"Health care" is the ultimate method to control the populace.  It is what tyrants dream of.  McTurtle and similar republicans are tyrants and they are proving it right now.

Well, no, but it's a dang good start down that path.
Next will be housing. It isn't fair that some people have to pay more, nor is it fair that some people have more room than others...

Never fear! We're from the government, and we're here to help! Howabout a mandated housing system to make it fair!

Then it will be food... It isn't fair that some people have to eat porridge and others get steak...

Never fear! We're from the government and we're here to help!

Howabout a mandated food system where those with money are required to buy at least 30% porridge and we'll use the savings to buy 5% steak for the poor! and everyone must buy soup. And you can only buy 1 bag of potato chips a month.

It won't stop here.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #83 on: June 30, 2017, 04:30:04 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on June 30, 2017, 02:32:01 pm
I want the ACA fixed. I want premiums reduced.  I want the mandates gone.  I want the Medicaid entitlement rolled back to pave the way for tax relief.

You don't want any of those things, not if you cling to your stubborn insistence on total repeal which isn't politically possible.   I am bored to tears at you and those like you who act like petulant children.  Don't dare complain about the ACA - it's fools like you that will keep it firmly in place.

Those of us who want this monstrous bill repealed are neither "petulant children" nor "fools."

We are people who don't want the government controlling our health and our very lives.

If you have a cancer, you don't get better by putting a bandaid on it.   This behemoth freedom-sucker can't be fixed.

It needs to be GONE.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #84 on: June 30, 2017, 04:34:11 pm »
 
Quote from: musiclady on June 30, 2017, 04:30:04 pm
Those of us who want this monstrous bill repealed are neither "petulant children" nor "fools."

We are people who don't want the government controlling our health and our very lives.

If you have a cancer, you don't get better by putting a bandaid on it.   This behemoth freedom-sucker can't be fixed.

It needs to be GONE.

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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #85 on: June 30, 2017, 04:39:46 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on June 30, 2017, 04:18:15 pm
Well, no, but it's a dang good start down that path.
Next will be housing. It isn't fair that some people have to pay more, nor is it fair that some people have more room than others...

Never fear! We're from the government, and we're here to help! Howabout a mandated housing system to make it fair!

Then it will be food... It isn't fair that some people have to eat porridge and others get steak...

Never fear! We're from the government and we're here to help!

Howabout a mandated food system where those with money are required to buy at least 30% porridge and we'll use the savings to buy 5% steak for the poor! and everyone must buy soup. And you can only buy 1 bag of potato chips a month.

It won't stop here.

There is quite a lot of human behavior you can manipulate and control under the guise of health care...to include the food you buy...the car you drive and the kind of House you live in.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #86 on: June 30, 2017, 04:41:58 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on June 30, 2017, 04:39:46 pm
There is quite a lot of human behavior you can manipulate and control under the guise of health care...to include the food you buy...the car you drive and the kind of House you live in.

"Socialized Medicine is the Keystone to the Arch of the Socialist State."

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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #87 on: June 30, 2017, 04:42:14 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on June 30, 2017, 04:30:04 pm
Those of us who want this monstrous bill repealed are neither "petulant children" nor "fools."

We are people who don't want the government controlling our health and our very lives.

If you have a cancer, you don't get better by putting a bandaid on it.   This behemoth freedom-sucker can't be fixed.

It needs to be GONE.

Politics is the art of the possible.   When the voters elected Obama,  they started a train that can't be stopped, only slowed.   Conservatives have less influence then they've ever had,  including within the GOP.   Trump's supporters voted for him precisely because, unlike conservatives, he pledged to keep middle class entitlements in place.  The middle class wants the peace of mind that comes with knowing that pre-existing conditions will be covered by their insurance.

It is only on sites like this that conservative "purity" still holds forth.  It is sound and fury, signifying nothing.   The ACA will not be repealed in total.   The voters won't have it.  That's how it is in a democracy - get used to it. 

Politics is the art of the possible.   
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #88 on: June 30, 2017, 04:46:46 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on June 30, 2017, 04:42:14 pm
Politics is the art of the possible.   When the voters elected Obama,  they started a train that can't be stopped, only slowed.   Conservatives have less influence then they've ever had,  including within the GOP.   Trump's supporters voted for him precisely because, unlike conservatives, he pledged to keep middle class entitlements in place.  The middle class wants the peace of mind that comes with knowing that pre-existing conditions will be covered by their insurance.

It is only on sites like this that conservative "purity" still holds forth.  It is sound and fury, signifying nothing.   The ACA will not be repealed in total.   The voters won't have it.  That's how it is in a democracy - get used to it. 

Politics is the art of the possible.

And the problem with your (usual) illogic is.....

this doesn't happen to BE a democracy.  (duh)

We have a representative republic.  Something a real American should be aware of and know by now.    :whistle:
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #89 on: June 30, 2017, 04:50:22 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on June 30, 2017, 04:42:14 pm
Politics is the art of the possible.   When the voters elected Obama,  they started a train that can't be stopped, only slowed.   

Baloney. It's about to stop anyway, when it crashes headlong into the concrete abutment just ahead.
LET IT.

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Conservatives have less influence then they've ever had,  including within the GOP.   Trump's supporters voted for him precisely because, unlike conservatives, he pledged to keep middle class entitlements in place.  The middle class wants the peace of mind that comes with knowing that pre-existing conditions will be covered by their insurance.

One of the PRIMARY platform planks all the way through the election was REPEAL DAY ONE. Your comment above is nothing but nonsense. The middle class wants insurance they can AFFORD and USE, and that requires government to get it's fat nose out of under the tent. PERIOD.

It has nothing to do with Conservative influence. It has to do with reality.

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It is only on sites like this that conservative "purity" still holds forth.  It is sound and fury, signifying nothing.   The ACA will not be repealed in total.   The voters won't have it.  That's how it is in a democracy - get used to it. 

Politics is the art of the possible.

The VOTERS had nothing to do with this POS. The voters were screaming for repeal, This is not repeal, nor the will of the people.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #90 on: June 30, 2017, 04:53:05 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on June 30, 2017, 02:09:30 pm
Your stubbornness has crossed the line into stupidity.  There is no total repeal in the cards.  No chance.  Stop sticking your thumbs in your ears and your head up your ass.

You are PROJECTING.... yet again.

And total repeal?  Not gonna stop until it is.
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« Reply #91 on: June 30, 2017, 04:54:19 pm »
@roamer_1 to add to your great post...it was the VOTERS that sent politicians to DC who promised complete repeal of the ACA.

For someone to claim the voters don't want this thing repealed is a complete fallacy.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #92 on: June 30, 2017, 05:03:34 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on June 30, 2017, 04:46:46 pm
And the problem with your (usual) illogic is.....

this doesn't happen to BE a democracy.  (duh)

We have a representative republic.  Something a real American should be aware of and know by now.    :whistle:

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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #93 on: June 30, 2017, 05:07:16 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on June 30, 2017, 04:50:22 pm
Baloney. It's about to stop anyway, when it crashes headlong into the concrete abutment just ahead.
LET IT.

One of the PRIMARY platform planks all the way through the election was REPEAL DAY ONE. Your comment above is nothing but nonsense. The middle class wants insurance they can AFFORD and USE, and that requires government to get it's fat nose out of under the tent. PERIOD.

It has nothing to do with Conservative influence. It has to do with reality.

The VOTERS had nothing to do with this POS. The voters were screaming for repeal, This is not repeal, nor the will of the people.


Not much to do, I guess, but to wait for 2018 and the Dem comeback.  Then President Trump will deal with Chuckie Schumer and conservatives will be out in the cold. 

I've never seen such a self-destructive lot in all my years.   
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #94 on: June 30, 2017, 05:10:48 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on June 30, 2017, 05:07:16 pm

Not much to do, I guess, but to wait for 2018 and the Dem comeback.  Then President Trump will deal with Chuckie Schumer and conservatives will be out in the cold. 

I've never seen such a self-destructive lot in all my years.

And yet here you are.  You're either trolling or presume to lecture the riff-raff. 
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #95 on: June 30, 2017, 05:11:09 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on June 30, 2017, 04:46:46 pm
And the problem with your (usual) illogic is.....

this doesn't happen to BE a democracy.  (duh)

We have a representative republic.  Something a real American should be aware of and know by now.    :whistle:

We're both a democracy and a representative republic.  Our Congressional representatives are elected by direct vote of the people - that's called democracy, for you folks in Rio Linda. 

Conservatives will find out all about the consequences of democracy come 2018. 
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #96 on: June 30, 2017, 05:13:31 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on June 30, 2017, 04:42:14 pm
Politics is the art of the possible.   When the voters elected Obama,  they started a train that can't be stopped, only slowed.   Conservatives have less influence then they've ever had,  including within the GOP.   Trump's supporters voted for him precisely because, unlike conservatives, he pledged to keep middle class entitlements in place.  The middle class wants the peace of mind that comes with knowing that pre-existing conditions will be covered by their insurance.

It is only on sites like this that conservative "purity" still holds forth.  It is sound and fury, signifying nothing.   The ACA will not be repealed in total.   The voters won't have it.  That's how it is in a democracy - get used to it. 

Politics is the art of the possible.

Tyranny is the art of deceit performed by meddlesome despots like yourself.

You keep insisting your freight train of tyranny cannot be stopped, only slowed.

Well, once a righteous people have had enough of meddlesome tyrants - we put an abrupt and violent end to such attempts to occupy and subjugate.

Notwithstanding your cheerleading for Obama, ObamaCare and mobocracy.

Just a kind reminder of our history as a people.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #97 on: June 30, 2017, 05:13:40 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on June 30, 2017, 04:54:19 pm
For someone to claim the voters don't want this thing repealed is a complete fallacy.

Absolutely.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #98 on: June 30, 2017, 05:13:57 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on June 30, 2017, 05:11:09 pm
We're both a democracy and a representative republic.  Our Congressional representatives are elected by direct vote of the people - that's called democracy, for you folks in Rio Linda. 

Conservatives will find out all about the consequences of democracy come 2018.

Splitting hairs.  Having some features of a democracy does not make us a democracy as you claimed earlier.
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Re: McConnell Could Turn to Democrats to Salvage Healthcare Bill
« Reply #99 on: June 30, 2017, 05:15:37 pm »
Quote from: Jazzhead on June 30, 2017, 05:07:16 pm

Not much to do, I guess, but to wait for 2018 and the Dem comeback.  Then President Trump will deal with Chuckie Schumer and conservatives will be out in the cold. 

I've never seen such a self-destructive lot in all my years.

Have at it. I don't see much difference anyway. At least the democrats aren't calling themselves Conservative.
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