Sen. Rand Paul on Obamacare: 'We gotta really repeal it'

[libertybele]

Exactly.  Nothing less than full repeal is acceptable!

Sen. Rand Paul on Obamacare: 'We gotta really repeal it'

After meeting with President Trump Tuesday afternoon, Senator Rand Paul, R-Ky., gave an interview with Fox News host Neil Cavuto in which he said that the president is open-minded about improvements to make the Senate version of the Obamacare bill more of a repeal.

“I think we had a good discussion, and I told the president I’m open to supporting it, but it has to get better and it has to be more of a repeal bill,” Paul said. “We keep too many of the regulations, we keep too many of the subsidies, and we create a new federal fund to subsidize insurance companies. So we’ve got to look at all of that and we have to ask the people who elected us on repealing Obamacare if this bill is really repeal......

.....“We have to get something that really works because – what I did tell him is ‘Look, I’ve been a doctor for twenty-some odd years, and I saw health care before Obamacare not working very well. I saw Obamacare come on and make it work even less well. I think there is some fundamental aspects to health care we have to try to fix and if we don’t fix them but we gain ownership of it, I think there is a big price to pay …’”

Paul, one of four GOP Senators opposing the Better Care Reconciliation Act on grounds that it does not go far enough to repeal Obamacare, told Cavuto that GOP leadership has not given conservatives feedback on their concerns.

“We haven’t had any feedback from leadership on their being open to changing any parts of the bill. In order for there to be negotiation, there has to be dialogue.”

Sen. Paul said he “formalized” their recommendations for the bill in writing this afternoon and will send them to Senate leadership and the president.

“I think this thing still could be done, but we have to keep our promise to the Republican voters as well as all voters that we were going to repeal the disaster that is Obamacare..........

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/sen-rand-paul-on-obamacare-we-gotta-really-repeal-it

[Night Hides Not]

Get ready for the onslaught from Salem Radio...Hugh was really going after Dean Heller this morning. Interesting how he said nothing about Rand, Ted, or the others voicing opposition to the bill.

Salem has gone "full Trump" 24/7. 

[TomSea]

Actually, Hugh Hewitt did have a caller from Kentucky going after Paul.

But Hewitt loyally walks the GOP line; I wouldn't call it going full Trump support.  I'd call it going full Republican in this case, Hewitt at one point, urged Trump to drop out when that recording came out, saying more would probably come out.

Medved won't though he's conciliatory towards healthcare reform and always ends up saying something like "well, it's better than what we have now". Prager often treats popular culture but he, some time ago, started supporting Trump.

I don't know if Steve Deace or Mark Levin are officially Salem radio though we do get them. They probably wouldn't but Mike Gallagher has supported Trump pretty much as long as I've paid attention, at least, since the primaries ended.

[Night Hides Not]

Actually, Hugh Hewitt did have a caller from Kentucky going after Paul.

But Hewitt loyally walks the GOP line; I wouldn't call it going full Trump support.  I'd call it going full Republican in this case, Hewitt at one point, urged Trump to drop out when that recording came out, saying more would probably come out.

Medved won't though he's conciliatory towards healthcare reform and always ends up saying something like "well, it's better than what we have now". Prager often treats popular culture but he, some time ago, started supporting Trump.

I don't know if Steve Deace or Mark Levin are officially Salem radio though we do get them. They probably wouldn't but Mike Gallagher has supported Trump pretty much as long as I've paid attention, at least, since the primaries ended.

Sounds like the lineup in your neck of the woods is a bit different. Larry Elder replaced Medved in Dallas, and Levin is on another station at his regular time.

I admit to listening to Hugh only a bit this morning on my drive to work. Dallas doesn't have him on for three hours, Mark Davis comes on during Hugh's third hour. It was like that when Bill Bennett was hosting his show.

[skeeter]

Actually, Hugh Hewitt did have a caller from Kentucky going after Paul.

But Hewitt loyally walks the GOP line; I wouldn't call it going full Trump support.  I'd call it going full Republican in this case, Hewitt at one point, urged Trump to drop out when that recording came out, saying more would probably come out.

Medved won't though he's conciliatory towards healthcare reform and always ends up saying something like "well, it's better than what we have now". Prager often treats popular culture but he, some time ago, started supporting Trump.

I don't know if Steve Deace or Mark Levin are officially Salem radio though we do get them. They probably wouldn't but Mike Gallagher has supported Trump pretty much as long as I've paid attention, at least, since the primaries ended.

Your assessment is pretty spot on.

Sadly, none of the above save Levin (maybe Deace, I dont know) will argue the issue from a fundamentally Constitutionally grounded perspective. They seem willing to surrender that ground without a fight.

[txradioguy]

Sen. Rand Paul on Obamacare: 'We gotta really repeal it'

Something I agree completely with Rand about.

[Night Hides Not]

Something I agree completely with Rand about.

Yeah, if only for the reason that's been the primary promise from the Pubbies since 2010. Obamacare would be much worse than it is now, had the most onerous provisions not been extended until after Obama left office.

[MajorClay]

  Brother   

[txradioguy]

Yeah, if only for the reason that's been the primary promise from the Pubbies since 2010. Obamacare would be much worse than it is now, had the most onerous provisions not been extended until after Obama left office.

The whole Rotten ACA left a lot of Easter Eggs for Americans after Big Ears was safely out of office.

[TomSea]

Constitutionally grounded is spot-on

Unfortunately, after the 2008 elections, the Democrats did get a mandate(?) to push anything on us; entitlements as said many times, are hard to overturn and then, they passed it in the middle of the night, Christmas season I believe, "to find out what's in it, read it". The whole episode is frustrating.

Circumstances conspired to make this a difficult situation.

[Night Hides Not]

The whole Rotten ACA left a lot of Easter Eggs for Americans after Big Ears was safely out of office.

It's frustrating that the proponents of full repeal never mention it when "debating" (arguing) on news shows.

[bilo]

Paul, one of four GOP Senators opposing the Better Care Reconciliation Act on grounds that it does not go far enough to repeal Obamacare, told Cavuto that GOP leadership has not given conservatives feedback on their concerns.

And this will be the undoing of the Pubs. Trump is really no help on any of this. He's not a conservative and just wants a victory.

The "moderates" are like Trump they really don't care about the long term implications, or how health care will be forever changed. They just want to have a "victory".

The conservatives have to hold the line. If they give in on this Medicaid will be the single payer system we will all ultimately have to live under.

[austingirl]

Paul, one of four GOP Senators opposing the Better Care Reconciliation Act on grounds that it does not go far enough to repeal Obamacare, told Cavuto that GOP leadership has not given conservatives feedback on their concerns.

And this will be the undoing of the Pubs. Trump is really no help on any of this. He's not a conservative and just wants a victory.

The "moderates" are like Trump they really don't care about the long term implications, or how health care will be forever changed. They just want to have a "victory".

The conservatives have to hold the line. If they give in on this Medicaid will be the single payer system we will all ultimately have to live under.

Agree! Full repeal as promised. Full repeal as was voted on 60 times under Bammy.

[Night Hides Not]

Agree! Full repeal as promised. Full repeal as was voted on 60 times under Bammy.

Mitch McConnell and his merry band of Pubbies never expected millions of us to be paying attention. Trump promised to "repeal and replace" Obamacare 68 times.

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-promised-to-repeal-obamacare-many-times-ab9500dad31e

Donald Trump promised to repeal Obamacare at least 68 times, but after the House’s failure on Friday to even vote on its replacement bill, the American Health Care Act of 2017, the White House’s position is that Republicans are “stuck” with Obamacare.

As a candidate, president-elect, and president, Trump has repeatedly pointed to the repeal of Obamacare as a top priority and a key reason he wanted to be president.

Republicans are setting themselves up for a fall in 2018.

[txradioguy]

Mitch McConnell and his merry band of Pubbies never expected millions of us to be paying attention. Trump promised to "repeal and replace" Obamacare 68 times.

https://thinkprogress.org/trump-promised-to-repeal-obamacare-many-times-ab9500dad31e

Republicans are setting themselves up for a fall in 2018.

It's gonna be interesting to watch the fall out and the blame game if we lose the House and/or the Senate next year.

[Night Hides Not]

It's gonna be interesting to watch the fall out and the blame game if we lose the House and/or the Senate next year.

It will take a real tidal wave to turn the House or Senate back to the Dems, as long as Pelosi and Schumer are leading Congress. Dems are despised much more than Republicans at this point.

One of my wife's cousins is an ardent Democrat, and is convinced that Ted Cruz will lose next year to Beto O'Rourke of El Paso. I informed him of a salient fact: Ted's support in the suburbs and rural areas will overwhelm the Democrat vote in the large cities. I couldn't recall the last time a Democrat from El Paso won a statewide race.

After a few beers, he said a few obscene things about Senator Cruz, and I politely but firmly told him his remarks were not appropriate for mixed company (we were at a wedding).

[bilo]

It's gonna be interesting to watch the fall out and the blame game if we lose the House and/or the Senate next year.

I sure don't want to see it, but if the Pubs won't keep a promise they've been making for 7 years why support them.

Rand Paul made a great comment this morning on Fox Business. He said it's a lot easier for conservatives to go back to their constituents and explain that they couldn't vote for the Pub bill because it wasn't a repeal of obamacare than it's for the moderates to try and explain why they didn't want to repeal obamacare.

[DCPatriot]

Something I agree completely with Rand about.

Absolutely!

[TomSea]

May agree but as likely, the Senators won't get anything done. I don't agree with that.

Thanks guys for standing on principal.

They might as well vote for Obamacare. 

[Bigun]

Something I agree completely with Rand about.

Yep!  100%

[DCPatriot]

Yeah, if only for the reason that's been the primary promise from the Pubbies since 2010. Obamacare would be much worse than it is now, had the most onerous provisions not been extended until after Obama left office.

Unless it's totally repealed, any gypsy fortune teller would tell you, 'Single Payer' within a decade.

That was the end-game from Day 1.

If the ACA can be tweaked depending on the ruling Party and you retain said legislation...you effectively legitimize it.

The Federal and State governments need to GTFO of healthcare. Period.

....cept for Medicare, of course.     

[skeeter]

May agree but as likely, the Senators won't get anything done. I don't agree with that.

Thanks guys for standing on principal.

They might as well vote for Obamacare.

There'll be no compromising in our favor AT ALL if no one stands on principles while the bill is being written.

[bilo]

It will take a real tidal wave to turn the House or Senate back to the Dems, as long as Pelosi and Schumer are leading Congress. Dems are despised much more than Republicans at this point.

One of my wife's cousins is an ardent Democrat, and is convinced that Ted Cruz will lose next year to Beto O'Rourke of El Paso. I informed him of a salient fact: Ted's support in the suburbs and rural areas will overwhelm the Democrat vote in the large cities. I couldn't recall the last time a Democrat from El Paso won a statewide race.

After a few beers, he said a few obscene things about Senator Cruz, and I politely but firmly told him his remarks were not appropriate for mixed company (we were at a wedding).

I've noticed that libs really have no sense of decorum.

I don't think Pelosi or Schumer being lunatics will keep the Rats from getting a majority though. The media is non stop in their anti-Trump and anti-Pub coverage. If the Pubs don't keep their promises on obamacare and immigration, no matter how crazy the Rats are, there is no reason to vote for them. The Rats could retake the House in 2018 and maybe the Senate in 2020.

Imagine if the Rats run a moderately sane candidate for POTUS in 2020 and the Pubs haven't fulfilled their promises. It could get ugly very quickly.

[Bigun]

There'll be no compromising in our favor AT ALL if no one stands on principles while the bill is being written.

I would bet my last dollar that no actual senator was involved in the writing of this bill!  I'll bet it was done entirely by K Street lobbyist and a few senate aids!

[INVAR]

Mitch McConnell and his merry band of Pubbies never expected millions of us to be paying attention. Trump promised to "repeal and replace" Obamacare 68 times.

The GOP voted to repeal ObamaCare in it's entirety a bunch of times under Obama in their act of kabuki Theater.

Today - not so much.  They want to keep it, expand it, "improve it" - which simply tries to lessen the pain to usher in Single Payer which a bunch of them are now on-board with.

Republicans are setting themselves up for a fall in 2018.

They are perfectly fine with that, and prefer to be the "opposition party" because thats when they get the most funding - and they are happy to simply be at the Democrat table.

The GOP is a national party no more.  They are simply become the Democrats with a handful of 'radical Conservatives' that they want out of their party.