Who Actually Believed Trump Had Tapes Of His Comey Conversations?

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Who Actually Believed Trump Had Tapes Of His Comey Conversations?

By Susan Wright  |  June 22, 2017, 03:00pm  |  @SweetieWalker

Did anyone believe there were actually recordings of the private conversations between President Trump and former FBI Director James Comey?

After the reports of the uncomfortable, private conversations between Trump and former FBI Director James Comey were made public, Trump was not a happy camper.

Comey had written in personal memos about those meetings that Trump, at one point, had asked for “loyalty,” and in an Oval Office meeting, after having dismissed his aides, including senior adviser Jared Kushner, and Attorney General Jeff Sessions (both who seemed to pause, as if unsure leaving was the right thing to do, in that moment), Trump stated that he hoped Comey could see his way to dropping the investigation surrounding ousted national security adviser Michael Flynn.

Comey later testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee that Trump did not ask him, directly, to stop the investigation. He simply said he “hoped” Comey could let Flynn go.

Flynn was fired from his position as national security adviser only three weeks into the job, after it was discovered he failed to disclose contacts with the Russian ambassador to the U.S., Sergey Kislyak. He also misled Vice President Pence about those contacts.

After news of Comey’s memos was revealed, President Trump took to his favorite venue – Twitter – and said that Comey had better hope there were no tapes of their conversations, before he started leaking to the press.

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   I know this Woman is not particularly liked here, but anyone who has a handle of: @SweetieWalker can't be all that bad.

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[Oceander]

I didn't think he did.

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   I give much plausibility to the fact that he did have Tapes but he couldn't release them because it wouldn't have absolved him and in fact made things worse, but that's just me and we all know how Trump delusional I am.

[the_doc]

I didn't believe it.  I figured that Trump was telegraphing an empty threat to Comey.  I believed that his bluff was intended to keep Comey from making false allegations--allegations that Trump would be unable to refute.  (If Trump had a recording, he should have kept his mouth shut and let the trap spring on Comey.) 

[Right_in_Virginia]

I didn't believe it.  I figured that Trump was telegraphing an empty threat to Comey.  I believed that his bluff was intended to keep Comey from making false allegations--allegations that Trump would be unable to refute. 

And, it worked beautifully. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Who Actually Believed Trump Had Tapes Of His Comey Conversations?

James Comey.

[Rivergirl]

Since there were only two people in the conversation, the dunuld better hope there is no tape.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Who Actually Believed Trump?

FIFU

[the_doc]

And, it worked beautifully.

Not as well as I would have hoped.  Why?  Because if Comey was afraid that a recording would expose him as a liar--and I think Comey was afraid--then he would not have dared to claim that Trump said that he insisted on loyalty from Comey.  The fact that Comey did make that bold claim makes Trump look like a liar when he has called Comey a liar for saying that he insisted on loyalty from Comey! 

I personally think that Trump is lying.  Remember:  It's what he does.  We all know that Trump is a liar.  I think his too-cute insinuation that he had a recording is going to be emphasized by the Dems and media as a flat-out lie and that he has also lied when he denied pressuring Comey on grounds of "loyalty." 

Trump is in BIG TROUBLE now.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Trump is in BIG TROUBLE now.

Pfft .... @the_doc   

[Cripplecreek]

Nobody.

[the_doc]

Pfft .... @the_doc   

I do not believe it would been inappropriate for the Chief of the Executive Branch to expect a certain a degree of reasonable loyalty from the FBI Director.  And I believe that a Republican POTUS could have said, for example, "Hey, James, you do have a long history of arguably conspicuous bias in favor of certain crooked Socialists.  And since I am the Chief of our Executive Branch, I am willing to serve notice that you need to show me that your investigation is not just the partisan witch hunt that your demonstrably crooked associates in the Democratic Party would like to see."

Okay, so I am willing to believe that a guy like Trump might have been willing to talk about necessary loyalty in such terms.  And I frankly believe that Trump did say something to that effect.  He is that kind of boss.  We all know that.

The problem is that Trump denies that he said anything about even that reasonable kind of loyalty.  I don't believe him.  Under the circumstances, most thoughtful people won't believe him either.  And the MSM and the vicious Dems will hype it over and over and over as a way of calling him a liar.  It will be the pot calling the kettle black;  unfortunately, this kettle is well-known to be morally black when it comes to telling the truth.  I suspect that it's the main reason why so many NeverTrumpers sat out the election.  It's certainly the main reason why I sat it out.

[Right_in_Virginia]

I do not believe it would been inappropriate for the Chief of the Executive Branch to expect a certain a degree of reasonable loyalty from the FBI Director.  And I believe that a Republican POTUS could have said, for example, "Hey, James, you do have a long history of arguably conspicuous bias in favor of certain crooked Socialists.  And since I am the Chief of our Executive Branch, I am willing to serve notice that you need to show me that your investigation is not just the partisan witch hunt that your demonstrably crooked associates in the Democratic Party would like to see."

Okay, so I am willing to believe that a guy like Trump might have been willing to talk about necessary loyalty in such terms.  And I frankly believe that Trump did say something to that effect.  He is that kind of boss.  We all know that.

The problem is that Trump denies that he said anything about even that reasonable kind of loyalty.  I don't believe him.  Under the circumstances, most thoughtful people won't believe him either.  And the MSM and the vicious Dems will hype it over and over and over as a way of calling him a liar.  It will be the pot calling the kettle black;  unfortunately, this kettle is well-known to be morally black when it comes to telling the truth.  I suspect that it's the main reason why so many NeverTrumpers sat out the election.  It's certainly the main reason why I sat it out.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume you've been saying "Trump is in big trouble now" since June 16, 2015.