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NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« on: June 09, 2017, 06:44:19 pm »

NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama

The Right Scoop    Jun. 9, 2017 12:22 pm by The Right Scoop

There has been basically no change in the number of Dreamers approved in the Trump administration in its first quarter versus what Obama approved in his last quarter as President:
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CR – Today, we have unveiled a real scandal in the Trump administration. And no, it has nothing to do with James Comey.

While much of the conservative media is consumed with Comey and Russia, they are missing the irony of defending an administration without even securing some key policy outcomes. The latest betrayal to the Right is the confirmation that Trump’s DHS has issued almost 125,000 “DACA” cards (per Obama’s unlawful Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals order) to illegal aliens through the second quarter of this fiscal year (January through March).

According to newly published data from U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, the Trump administration has issued 17,275 initial amnesty cards and over 107,500 renewals of existing status.
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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2017, 06:58:12 pm »
Let's just save some time and declare this to be someone else's fault so we can get back to worship services more quickly.

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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #2 on: June 09, 2017, 07:51:56 pm »
No government in the 12,000 years of modern mankind history has led its people into anything but the history books with a simple lesson, don't let this happen to you.

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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #3 on: June 09, 2017, 08:07:41 pm »
No surprise. He flat out said he'd be doing that before the election. Unless the surprise is at him keeping his word.  :shrug:
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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2017, 08:21:11 pm »
No surprise. He flat out said he'd be doing that before the election. Unless the surprise is at him keeping his word.  :shrug:

That is my recollection, too. Without looking anything up, I recall he stated several times the priority was on getting rid of "bad ones."

Then "we'll see about the rest, later"

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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2017, 08:23:23 pm »
No surprise. He flat out said he'd be doing that before the election. Unless the surprise is at him keeping his word.  :shrug:

Yes, he did.   And I support him in this.  Kids who were born or brought here as small children by their illegal immigrant parents have done nothing to merit punishment.
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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2017, 08:26:33 pm »
That is my recollection, too. Without looking anything up, I recall he stated several times the priority was on getting rid of "bad ones."

Then "we'll see about the rest, later"

Yep - our memories match. I'll go slightly further - he met with some Dreamers (think it were a couple of months before the election, but my time sense is screwy) and came out of the meeting saying they were admirable young people and he didn't know how to deal with them; the ones who are in the US illegally not by choice but by accident of family.

One of the things I respected him for saying - it's always a risk when a candidate says he doesn't know what to do about something.
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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2017, 08:35:49 pm »
Yes, he did.   And I support him in this.  Kids who were born or brought here as small children by their illegal immigrant parents have done nothing to merit punishment.
Stealing positions in our public schools from students who were here lawfully merits punishment. There are students—people of an age to know they're here unlawfully— gladly accepting valedictorian honors for crying out loud!
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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #8 on: June 09, 2017, 09:01:03 pm »
Let's just save some time and declare this to be someone else's fault so we can get back to worship services more quickly.

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« Reply #9 on: June 09, 2017, 09:02:19 pm »
Yes, he did.   And I support him in this.  Kids who were born or brought here as small children by their illegal immigrant parents have done nothing to merit punishment.

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Their parents should have thought about that before coming here.  Illegally.

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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #10 on: June 09, 2017, 09:44:56 pm »
Stealing positions in our public schools from students who were here lawfully merits punishment. There are students—people of an age to know they're here unlawfully— gladly accepting valedictorian honors for crying out loud!

Stealing positions in public schools????   You can't be serious. 

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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2017, 12:03:20 am »
Stealing positions in public schools????   You can't be serious.
You do realize how much money we spend on each student in this country, right? This isn't semantics. It's thousands of dollars (even tens of thousands in a number of cases), per student, per year. It has implications for taxpayers as well as the students themselves.

Plus, you cannot tell me it is fair for a lawful U.S. citizen student who has busted his or her backside to get a high class ranking and get into a better college have it ruined because someone who isn't allowed to be here is there.
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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2017, 03:11:40 am »
@Cripplecreek

You don't understand what the left is doing, do you?

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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2017, 09:00:14 am »
Yes, he did.   And I support him in this.  Kids who were born or brought here as small children by their illegal immigrant parents have done nothing to merit punishment.

Yeah, I don't see it anyway close to that. Draining taxes, and often causing the rest of the student body to lose valuable time in the classroom while the teacher has to teach kids that are grades behind. Dream in their own country.
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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2017, 11:00:23 am »
I have no problem with this..
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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2017, 11:03:50 am »
I have no problem with this..

My only real problem is the way Trumpers willfully lied to themselves and others about this. They knew that Trump was talking out of both sides of his mouth and happily accepted it.

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2017, 11:05:55 am »
My only real problem is the way Trumpers willfully lied to themselves and others about this. They knew that Trump was talking out of both sides of his mouth and happily accepted it.


All they heard was I'm going to make Mexico to pay for the wall..
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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2017, 11:52:36 am »
My only real problem is the way Trumpers willfully lied to themselves and others about this. They knew that Trump was talking out of both sides of his mouth and happily accepted it.

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Re: NOT GOOD: Trump still approving as many DREAMERS as Obama
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2017, 04:11:46 pm »
You do realize how much money we spend on each student in this country, right? This isn't semantics. It's thousands of dollars (even tens of thousands in a number of cases), per student, per year. It has implications for taxpayers as well as the students themselves.

Plus, you cannot tell me it is fair for a lawful U.S. citizen student who has busted his or her backside to get a high class ranking and get into a better college have it ruined because someone who isn't allowed to be here is there.
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