How liberals think--and Trump's withdrawal from the Paris accords

[pjohns]

The pre-Gorbachev Soviet Union thought in a linear (Leninist) way: Once a communist state, always a communist state.

Liberals, it seems, think in much the same way: Once a liberal policy is enacted, it will always be in place (unless it is liberalized even more).

Therefore, liberals were understandably outraged when President Trump demonstrated that this is not necessarily true...

[berdie]

I am pretty insulated in my life and run with like minded people. Not by choice but by happenstance. I do work with one liberal token Dem that generally keeps her mouth shut. But not this week!

According to her Trump has just destroyed the world as we know it. Hawaii is sinking. I tried to find some evidence for her statement...but I come up dry (pun intended).

[LateForLunch]

I am pretty insulated in my life and run with like minded people. Not by choice but by happenstance. I do work with one liberal token Dem that generally keeps her mouth shut. But not this week!

According to her Trump has just destroyed the world as we know it. Hawaii is sinking. I tried to find some evidence for her statement...but I come up dry (pun intended).

hah hah the only evidence in support of AGW is anecdotal - a vast number of leftists who say that there is strong objective information supporting AGW but who then never produce it. Instead highly- biased, fact sparse "opinionology" is offered. The dirty little reality is that most of the strong evidence about AGW is in the negative - supporting the conclusion that AGW does not exist.

algore and his minions will have to try harder to create their permanent state of fear so they can panic the low information population into the arms of the socialist Cthulhu.

[skeeter]

Liberals/progressives, with their insane overreaction to the recent policy reversals proposed by the administration, are demonstrating why progressive policies typically stay in place forever.

No politician wants to ride the tiger. That is, assuming they ever wanted to.

[XenaLee]

I am pretty insulated in my life and run with like minded people. Not by choice but by happenstance. I do work with one liberal token Dem that generally keeps her mouth shut. But not this week!

According to her Trump has just destroyed the world as we know it. Hawaii is sinking. I tried to find some evidence for her statement...but I come up dry (pun intended).

She's a moron.  She's believing another moron, Al Gore.... who is also a blatant liar.   He's going around scaring folks, as usual, by telling them the oceans are rising.  Not true.  The incident he's pointing to as proof is merely due to a flooding issue in Hawaii that happens and has happened yearly (no biggie) where fish are left alive in the streets.   Anyone that believes the idiot left is part of that idiot left, IMO.   With the idiot left controlling the airwaves and the media, it would be 24/7 news if the oceans really were 'rising'.

[dfwgator]

I am pretty insulated in my life and run with like minded people. Not by choice but by happenstance. I do work with one liberal token Dem that generally keeps her mouth shut. But not this week!

According to her Trump has just destroyed the world as we know it. Hawaii is sinking. I tried to find some evidence for her statement...but I come up dry (pun intended).

Trump is shining the flashlight on the cockroaches.

[skeeter]

She's a moron.  She's believing another moron, Al Gore.... who is also a blatant liar.   He's going around scaring folks, as usual, by telling them the oceans are rising.  Not true.  The incident he's pointing to as proof is merely due to a flooding issue in Hawaii that happens and has happened yearly (no biggie) where fish are left alive in the streets.   Anyone that believes the idiot left is part of that idiot left, IMO.   With the idiot left controlling the airwaves and the media, it would be 24/7 news if the oceans really were 'rising'.

My son and I had this conversation yesterday - he's beginning to notice that the left argues from a place completely devoid of reason and in complete disregard for the facts.

A rational person might wonder if Gore is credible or whether he's motivated by something other than concern for the planet, given that he went from 1.7 million to over 200 million dollars net worth since he began preaching this global warming climate change horses*t.

[XenaLee]

My son and I had this conversation yesterday - he's beginning to notice that the left argues from a place completely devoid of reason and in complete disregard for the facts.

A rational person might wonder if Gore is credible or whether he's motivated by something other than concern for the planet, given that he went from 1.7 million to over 200 million dollars net worth since he began preaching this global warming climate change horses*t.

He has cashed in big time on his scam.  Bought that $9 million dollar ocean view mansion in 2010.  Oh yeah.  Lying for the left pays off mega bucks.  Some might even find that an attractive way to get rich without really having to work or without having any other skills or abilities (than lying). 

[LateForLunch]

My son and I had this conversation yesterday - he's beginning to notice that the left argues from a place completely devoid of reason and in complete disregard for the facts.

A rational person might wonder if Gore is credible or whether he's motivated by something other than concern for the planet, given that he went from 1.7 million to over 200 million dollars net worth since he began preaching this global warming climate change horses*t.

The far left seeks to inject so much emotion into the issue that people will be pushed into a state where their emotions/intuition dominate over their rational minds - especially in regard to what information they will allow themselves to accept. Once a person automatically rejects any and all information which strongly contradicts the a priori, the circle is closed, they lose some of their humanity and they become a fanatic.

Fanatics never say
Never see
Never think
And never do
Anything
That's really new.

[skeeter]

The far left seeks to inject so much emotion into the issue that people will be pushed into a state where their emotions/intuition dominate over their rational minds - especially in regard to what information they will allow themselves to accept. Once a person automatically rejects any and all information which strongly contradicts the a priori, the circle is closed, they lose some of their humanity and they become a fanatic.

Fanatics never say
Never see
Never think
And never do
Anything
That's really new.

A major characteristic of hell must be a complete lack of reason.

[LateForLunch]

A major characteristic of hell must be a complete lack of reason.

The feature film "Constantine" did a nice portrayal of demons which lack brains.

[skeeter]

The feature film "Constantine" did a nice portrayal of demons which lack brains.

Huh. I never considered what the empty brain pans on the demons in that flick represented...

[LateForLunch]

Huh. I never considered what the empty brain pans on the demons in that flick represented...

One does not have to have one's upper brain physically removed to render themselves brainless. The entire far-leftist (radical socialist) movement proves that. One merely needs to become an anti-conservative fanatic who automatically edits out of their awareness any opinion, information, fact which makes them feel uneasy. Once people acquire the firm belief that they have an unlimited entitlement to be happy by any and all means 24/7 (even through amorality), it is child's play to further convince them that anything which makes them feel at all uneasy is  "bad" (even if it is true).

[Hondo69]

I have a friend who is a classic liberal.  Overall she's a very generous person who goes out of her way to help others, a trait not normally expected from those of the other persuasion.  Yet her political views are 100% Pavlov headline driven.  I do what I can to help her dig a few layers deeper.

She was expressing her view of the Paris Accord the other night and I let her outrage spill out for a while, save the children and all that.  After allowing her outrage to flare out and she seemed a bit calmer I expressed my opinion that the Paris Accord actually accomplished the opposite of what the headlines tell us.  By allowing signees to "promise to do better" it in reality allows them a blank check to keep on polluting simple because they've promised to do better.  They have good intentions you see, and that's all that matters, a expression of good intentions.

Although I had to repeat this same thought several times throughout the conversation I could tell it eventually got the wheels turning a bit for her.  And that's really about all one can hope for, that they read beyond the headlines and think about things a layer or two deeper.

[Hondo69]

Throughout the 1920's and 30's all of Europe was in disarray.  Governments were being displaced, mob rule was commonplace and turmoil was the norm, not the exception.  A variety of reasons can be traced back as underlying causes but none more so than economic instability. 

Economists have written entire books that detailed the financial effects of gold reserves, innovations such as electricity and countless other factors including political power struggles.  But that is not my main point here.  Instead I want to focus on the forces behind the scenes, very powerful forces, that stood to benefit regardless of which direction the winds of change blew.  And these forces stood to benefit tremendously by the rise and fall in currencies, bonds, and gold.  They were not one bit opposed to nudging those winds of change along since they possessed the knowledge and expertise to stay one step ahead of the game.

Part of that expert knowledge was that of human nature along with the simple fact that human nature does not change.  It was the same in the 1400's, 1600's or any time period you wish to mention.  It's always the same, therefore making it relatively easy to predict If A, then B.  If C, then D.  The patterns always repeat because human nature does not change.  Today we call it the Liberal Mentality but it essentially boils down to mob rule.

Toss the mob some red meat in the form of a juicy headline and the predictable knee-jerk reaction will result.  Forget the details, mobs only require a single headline to spring into action which often results in violence.  You and I see real life examples each and every day, many are reported on this forum.  It's all nothing more than the old - If A, then B.  If C, then D.

Keep this in mind each time you read about another example of mob violence - who stands to benefit the most?  It's not the little people clamoring for more government benefits and it's not poor immigrant from Mexico looking for a better life.  Very powerful forces are hard at work behind the scenes stirring the pot of chaos.  With chaos comes tremendous economic opportunities and those powerful forces are not one bit opposed to nudging those winds of change along.