Liberals Are Shocked To Find We’re Starting To Hate Them Right Back

[DiogenesLamp]

Control of the armed forces isn't an either/or.  If it came down to a shooting war, the armed forces would likely be deeply divided internally.  We can hope that the majority of the troops would abide by their oaths and move to protect the Constitution, but there's no guarantee this would happen.  And the flag ranks are less likely to abide by their oaths than the lower ranks, in my opinion.

Yes,  it's iffy how things would go on that score. 


But logistics support the conservative side winning.   The bastions of Liberalism are the big cities,  and these heavily depend upon resources from outside their areas.   Stop the electricity,  stop the water,  stop the food shipments,  and the Cities become death traps.   


There is great potential for asymetrical warfare to be employed here.   It is virtually impossible to keep stuff flowing into the cities with hostiles intent on disrupting this traffic. 

[XenaLee]

Well, maybe it's just good for me because my blood pressure is fantastic, 108/58.  My mental health would be great to if Meow Kitty hadn't started peeing on my rug.

Lol!  I have perfect blood pressure too.... but yeah.... a cat peeing on a rug could ruin your day.  I have a male cat (figures) that pees on any plastic of any kind that he finds on the floor.  Bought some vinyl runners for the hall (high traffic area carpet protector) that he especially enjoyed peeing on.  So much for that idea.

[txradioguy]

Control of the armed forces isn't an either/or.  If it came down to a shooting war, the armed forces would likely be deeply divided internally.  We can hope that the majority of the troops would abide by their oaths and move to protect the Constitution, but there's no guarantee this would happen.  And the flag ranks are less likely to abide by their oaths than the lower ranks, in my opinion.

We will obey the lawful orders of our commanders and defend and uphold the Constitution.

Period. 

I've seen flag officers that were raging Liberals salute and execute orders given to them by Republican Presidents. And I've seen staunch Conservative officers do the same for hard left Presidents.

We don't serve...at any level...based on what particular optical party is waring the chair at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Your theory on who would do what is flawed.

[Bigun]

We will obey the lawful orders of our commanders and defend and uphold the Constitution.

Period. 

I've seen flag officers that were raging Liberals salute and execute orders given to them by Republican Presidents. And I've seen staunch Conservative officers do the same for hard left Presidents.

We don't serve...at any level...based on what particular optical party is waring the chair at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.

Your theory on who would do what is flawed.

Lawful Orders is the key!  Including the Posse Comitatus Act!

The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878 by President Rutherford B. Hayes. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using its military personnel to act as domestic law enforcement personnel.

[skeeter]

Those who are hot for a shooting war with liberals are wildly overconfident about a glorious outcome that is far from assured. Their rejection of anyone they consider to be impure only makes their chances of glory even more remote.

The fact is that if these Trump "Conservatives" want to force a choice, I'll go stand with my liberal family. Not because I agree with their liberalism but because they treat me like family despite our differences.

Let me tell you what is coming. After the sacrifice of countless millions of treasure and hundreds of thousands of lives, you may win Southern independence if God be not against you, but I doubt it. I tell you that, while I believe with you in the doctrine of states rights, the North is determined to preserve this Union. They are not a fiery, impulsive people as you are, for they live in colder climates. But when they begin to move in a given direction, they move with the steady momentum and perseverance of a mighty avalanche; and what I fear is, they will overwhelm the South. -Sam Houston

Who said anything about 'shooting war'?

Why are you so anxious to treat everyone else here like some sort of ignorant yokel?

[Cyber Liberty]

Speaking for myself, I'm not getting on any "hate train."  The liberals may deserve it, but I'm not going to let myself get eaten out that way.  That's their gig, not mine.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Liberals are surprised that what they're slinging is coming back at them.

It's the pre-ordained progression attending being a Godless Narcissist.

Libs look down their noses at conservatives as troglodytes, too dumb to understand that Libs own uninformed 'Feelings' must govern all of everyone else's lives.

How many times have we all been subjected to a Lib raising their voice louder and louder to literally shout us out of the discussion?

Slogan after slogan with no facts to back them up.

It's only natural with Godless Narcissists that it comes as a surprise to them the street runs both ways.


Bipartisan: synonym for date rape.

[skeeter]

Speaking for myself, I'm not getting on any "hate train."  The liberals may deserve it, but I'm not going to let myself get eaten out that way.  That's their gig, not mine.

I've thought alot about squaring whats in my heart regarding the left and whats the appropriate Christian response.

I understand what is meant in 1 Corinthians 13:13 and Luke 16:29. But I cannot believe Christ meant simply allow yourselves to be consumed by the evil on the left.

What to do if they simply will not allow you to prevail political and socially, in cases resorting to violence, and have no interest in even considering what you have to say?

How did the founders, nearly all of them solid Christians, justify summoning the will to engage in a mortal struggle with the crown?

[txradioguy]

Lawful Orders is the key!  Including the Posse Comitatus Act!

The Posse Comitatus Act is a United States federal law (18 U.S.C. § 1385, original at 20 Stat. 152) signed on June 18, 1878 by President Rutherford B. Hayes. The purpose of the act – in concert with the Insurrection Act of 1807 – is to limit the powers of the federal government in using its military personnel to act as domestic law enforcement personnel.

Yeah I'm well aware of what it is.

But what does it have to do with the discussion of Liberals being shocked when we turn their tactics on them?

Makes no sense to me.

[beandog]

Lol!  I have perfect blood pressure too.... but yeah.... a cat peeing on a rug could ruin your day.  I have a male cat (figures) that pees on any plastic of any kind that he finds on the floor.  Bought some vinyl runners for the hall (high traffic area carpet protector) that he especially enjoyed peeing on.  So much for that idea.

Well, now I'm really depressed.  Took said cat to vet to find out why he was peeing on my rug.  Cost me $405 to find out he has a UTI. Now not only do I have a rug that needs to be replaced but I now have a $405 vet bill.  What's worse is he doesn't even seem to appreciate my efforts.  I think my cat is a liberal.

[anubias]

Well, maybe it's just good for me because my blood pressure is fantastic, 108/58.  My mental health would be great to if Meow Kitty hadn't started peeing on my rug.

My hatred is visceral.

My blood pressure is 90/60.  @beandog

 

[XenaLee]

Well, now I'm really depressed.  Took said cat to vet to find out why he was peeing on my rug.  Cost me $405 to find out he has a UTI. Now not only do I have a rug that needs to be replaced but I now have a $405 vet bill.  What's worse is he doesn't even seem to appreciate my efforts.  I think my cat is a liberal.

I know mine is!!!  I blame my dog.   She converted him...lolol.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3VLqLLWxbQ

[Cyber Liberty]

I understand what is meant in 1 Corinthians 13:13 and Luke 16:29. But I cannot believe Christ meant simply allow yourselves to be consumed by the evil on the left.

What to do if they simply will not allow you to prevail political and socially, in cases resorting to violence, and have no interest in even considering what you have to say?

How did the founders, nearly all of them solid Christians, justify summoning the will to engage in a mortal struggle with the crown?

Sell your cloak for a sword.  I refuse to hate, but I have plenty of weapons.

[Free Vulcan]

The liberals have the West Coast, the Northeast, and their liberal inner city-state enclaves. Beyond that not much.

They think they're going start a war, but they have no way to finish it. Tell me what a bunch of antifa punks are going to do the smaller towns and rural areas against superior numbers enacting Rule .308?

Our fully deployed military would have a hard time keeping order if the whole country were against them. Leftist snowflakes don't worry me much in that department.

I'm far more worried about a financial implosion and the after effects, which are are merrily heading along toward right now, as soon as we can no longer make the interest payment on our debt.

[txradioguy]

The liberals have the West Coast, the Northeast, and their liberal inner city-state enclaves. Beyond that not much.

They think they're going start a war, but they have no way to finish it. Tell me what a bunch of antifa punks are going to do the smaller towns and rural areas against superior numbers enacting Rule .308?

Our fully deployed military would have a hard time keeping order if the whole country were against them. Leftist snowflakes don't worry me much in that department.

I'm far more worried about a financial implosion and the after effects, which are are merrily heading along toward right now, as soon as we can no longer make the interest payment on our debt.

That .308 comment reminded me of something.

[Wingnut]

That .308 comment reminded me of something.

If it ain't a Gibbs rule....it should be

[txradioguy]

If it ain't a Gibbs rule....it should be

Amen to that. 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I don't hate them as individuals but I DO hate their screwed up ideas and have done so for a LONG time now!

correct attitude.  Hate the sin but love the sinner.

[mirraflake]

But logistics support the conservative side winning.   The bastions of Liberalism are the big cities,  and these heavily depend upon resources from outside their areas.   Stop the electricity,  stop the water,  stop the food shipments,  and the Cities become death traps.   

Large cities generally have higher IQ than small towns, large cities have the industrial and manufacturing base, transportation and food warehousing infrastructure, large police force, lot's of arms-police and local Armories and citizens,  and they have huge population numbers. People in the cities are in general  more fit and healthier than country folks. I could go on an on.

Small villages and cities would be overrun in days if not hours no matter how well armed they are because they just don't have the numbers.

@DiogenesLamp

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Control of the armed forces isn't an either/or.  If it came down to a shooting war, the armed forces would likely be deeply divided internally.  We can hope that the majority of the troops would abide by their oaths and move to protect the Constitution, but there's no guarantee this would happen.  And the flag ranks are less likely to abide by their oaths than the lower ranks, in my opinion.

anybody got the stats on gun ownership of libs vs the rest of us?

[skeeter]

Sell your cloak for a sword.  I refuse to hate, but I have plenty of weapons.

Same here, but I'm referring more to what the appropriate attitude towards them should be. Its beyond my capability to turn the other cheek.

That said, its ludicrous to believe we're at the point yet of open violence.

[Cyber Liberty]

anybody got the stats on gun ownership of libs vs the rest of us?

That's a good question.  I've known libs who talk a good game about snatching up all the firearms yet have a couple stashed around their houses.  Stats on ammo would also be helpful.

[Cyber Liberty]

Same here, but I'm referring more to what the appropriate attitude towards them should be. Its beyond my capability to turn the other cheek.

That said, its ludicrous to believe we're at the point yet of open violence.

I stay away from arguments with leftists.  Keep your beliefs close to your vest.  You don't need to be tipping them off about who they may be facing.  Besides, this could all blow over, and you want to keep your friends in the meantime.

[Wingnut]

That's a good question.  I've known libs who talk a good game about snatching up all the firearms yet have a couple stashed around their houses.  Stats on ammo would also be helpful.

Where the guns are"
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/15/the-demographics-and-politics-of-gun-owning-households/
Americans with a gun at home also differ politically from other adults. Republicans are twice as likely as Democrats to be members of a gun-owning household. Political independents also are more likely than Democrats to have a firearm in their homes.

Party Identity in a Gun Cabinet
https://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/in-gun-ownership-statistics-partisan-divide-is-sharp/
In urban areas, 40 percent of Republican voters said they had a gun in their home, while 20 percent of Democrats did.

The differences are most apparent in suburban areas. There, 58 percent of Republican voters said there was a gun in their household, against just 27 percent of Democrats.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Where the guns are"
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/07/15/the-demographics-and-politics-of-gun-owning-households/
Americans with a gun at home also differ politically from other adults. Republicans are twice as likely as Democrats to be members of a gun-owning household. Political independents also are more likely than Democrats to have a firearm in their homes.

Party Identity in a Gun Cabinet
https://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/18/in-gun-ownership-statistics-partisan-divide-is-sharp/
In urban areas, 40 percent of Republican voters said they had a gun in their home, while 20 percent of Democrats did.

The differences are most apparent in suburban areas. There, 58 percent of Republican voters said there was a gun in their household, against just 27 percent of Democrats.

those% likely do not reflect two important items:

How many guns are owned by each group and how good a shot is the owner?

The latter is one reason the South stayed in war so long.