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Angela Merkel is right: the US and the UK cannot be relied upon. They have let the people of Europe down badly
« on: May 29, 2017, 04:08:23 pm »
The German Chancellor has made a habit of being at the centre of history. With her words this weekend, she may have drawn another of history’s grand eras to an end...

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/angela-merkel-donald-trump-us-and-uk-brexit-europeans-must-fight-for-our-own-future-and-destiny-a7761796.html
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Re: Angela Merkel is right: the US and the UK cannot be relied upon. They have let the people of Europe down badly
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2017, 04:10:21 pm »
Who won the bloody war, anyway?
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Re: Angela Merkel is right: the US and the UK cannot be relied upon. They have let the people of Europe down badly
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2017, 04:12:52 pm »
Hey, Angie, your moustache is showing

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Re: Angela Merkel is right: the US and the UK cannot be relied upon. They have let the people of Europe down badly
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2017, 04:17:08 pm »
Merkel is just doing what despots have always done - she's in political trouble for her own domestic policies so she seeks a foreign boogieman.
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Re: Angela Merkel is right: the US and the UK cannot be relied upon. They have let the people of Europe down badly
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2017, 04:28:31 pm »
Quote from: dfwgator on May 29, 2017, 04:12:52 pm
Hey, Angie, your moustache is showing


Wow.  She looks good with a moustache.  Too good.  In fact.... it looks very natural on her...lol.
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Re: Angela Merkel is right: the US and the UK cannot be relied upon. They have let the people of Europe down badly
« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2017, 05:06:56 pm »
Quote from: Wingnut on May 29, 2017, 04:08:23 pm
The German Chancellor has made a habit of being at the centre of history. With her words this weekend, she may have drawn another of history’s grand eras to an end...

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/angela-merkel-donald-trump-us-and-uk-brexit-europeans-must-fight-for-our-own-future-and-destiny-a7761796.html

"Centre of history"? Not in my book. Perhaps if the Norks or the Iranians decide to detonate a nuke. The European Union is one of history's "grand eras"? The author is deficient in world history.
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Re: Angela Merkel is right: the US and the UK cannot be relied upon. They have let the people of Europe down badly
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2017, 05:24:10 pm »
Whatever Brexit wants to say about the UK, Brexit was the right thing to do.

I actually agree with the claim that the US let Europe down:  the US should have been loudly condemning the EU stance--Merkel's own stance--concerning immigration for the past several years. 
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Re: Angela Merkel is right: the US and the UK cannot be relied upon. They have let the people of Europe down badly
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2017, 07:29:40 pm »
Quote from: the_doc on May 30, 2017, 05:24:10 pm
Whatever Brexit wants to say about the UK, Brexit was the right thing to do.

I actually agree with the claim that the US let Europe down:  the US should have been loudly condemning the EU stance--Merkel's own stance--concerning immigration for the past several years.

Western Europe has proven beyond doubt that adding millions of uneducated, low-skilled people to a purportedly civilized country will not end well for that civilized country.

Oh heck, I've been kicking liberal asses a great deal lately, whether it be this topic, or the headlong rush to tear down Confederate memorials. You ought to see them when I ask them, "then you'd be in favor of dismantling the Japanese internment camps from WWII, or concentration camps such as Dachau or Auschwitz?"
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Re: Angela Merkel is right: the US and the UK cannot be relied upon. They have let the people of Europe down badly
« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2017, 07:30:25 pm »
Quote from: the_doc on May 30, 2017, 05:24:10 pm
Whatever Brexit wants to say about the UK, Brexit was the right thing to do.

I actually agree with the claim that the US let Europe down:  the US should have been loudly condemning the EU stance--Merkel's own stance--concerning immigration for the past several years.

Instead, Obama was a Merkel enabler for 8 years.
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Re: Angela Merkel is right: the US and the UK cannot be relied upon. They have let the people of Europe down badly
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2017, 07:33:49 pm »
I am with Trump on this, but he's so lazy:

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But backing out of the Paris Climate Agreement, hectoring on Nato contributions which are not even legally binding, and calling Germany “very, very bad” over its temerity to have its car companies provide tens of thousands of American jobs building its beloved cars in the southern states of the US are actions that must have consequences.

At least as far as that goes, this part of the article is spot on. I don't think anyone even pointed this out: German companies employ thousands of American workers.
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Re: Angela Merkel is right: the US and the UK cannot be relied upon. They have let the people of Europe down badly
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2017, 12:18:16 am »
Germany is stuck in a vice and the screws are turning.  If they could turn back the clock 20 years I'm sure they'd do things differently, but they can't.  Now they are faced with no good options.
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Re: Angela Merkel is right: the US and the UK cannot be relied upon. They have let the people of Europe down badly
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2017, 12:21:21 am »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on May 30, 2017, 07:30:25 pm
Instead, Obama was a Merkel enabler for 8 years.

And before that......

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Re: Angela Merkel is right: the US and the UK cannot be relied upon. They have let the people of Europe down badly
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2017, 12:35:05 am »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on May 30, 2017, 07:33:49 pm
I am with Trump on this, but he's so lazy:

At least as far as that goes, this part of the article is spot on. I don't think anyone even pointed this out: German companies employ thousands of American workers.

And BMW North America is a net exporter of cars. 
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