Trump base shows signs of cracking

[Emjay]

If a gesture such as that has deep meaning, or not, I really don't care.

I have only been married for 49 years, and if my wife declined to hold my hand, I wouldn't think anything about it at all.

To me discussing it at all, is merely another chapter in the #nevertrump trivia game.

And the press is still doing it!  They are still trolling videos to find some trace of Melania rebuffing Trump.  It is pathetic.

[Emjay]

The assumption is that he had a wide base to begin with.  Hillary was actually that bad where he was an acceptable alternative.  Depending on who they run in 2020, he's extremely beatable.

He won't run in 2020.  I think his health is declining although you wouldn't know it from the schedule he keeps.

And I'm wondering who you think the Dems have to run in 2020.  Unless some new star emerges, there is no one at all attractive on that side.  Hillary again?  Chelsea?  Biden?  Will Biden still be mobile then.  He's a fool but he's not as despicable personally as some of them.

And BTW, are you yearning for a dem win or just philosophizing.

[corbe]

And the press is still doing it!  They are still trolling videos to find some trace of Melania rebuffing Trump.  It is pathetic.

   They do the same to every Republican President @Emjay and even of this veracity, it was expected of them by all of us, no one believed Trump was gonna get a 'hall pass'.

[Emjay]

   They do the same to every Republican President @Emjay and even of this veracity, it was expected of them by all of us, no one believed Trump was gonna get a 'hall pass'.

Hey, I've seen a few Republican Presidents take it on the chin, but never saw this relentless, constant attacks.  I simply do not believe it's been this bad before.

No, we're not talking about any kind of pass.  We knew Trump would be attacked, but this is beyond anything I've ever seen.

[XenaLee]

Well, I've been married for 35 years, and if reached over to hold my husband's hand and he pulled away, I would definitely think something was amiss.  In watching the video several times, note that Donald walks several paces ahead of her and then extends his hand to her.  He tends to walk in front of her rather than with her.  Common courtesy, is you wait for your spouse.  She wears extremely high heels and perhaps it is difficult for her to keep the pace; perhaps Trump steps in line with others which leaves her trailing behind.  Him leaving her behind was never more apparent than when he left her behind getting out of the car at his inauguration and walked ahead leaving her behind to meet with the Bammy's.  I felt sorry for her.  The polite and gentlemanly thing for Trump to do would be to walk with her arm in arm at a pace that is suitable for both of them.

Yeah, but if he walked behind her.... you just know he would then be accused of using her as his human shield....lol.  He can't win.  And hand-holding in public?   That's what yuppies do!  I just can't believe the idiots on the left are even discussing this kind of crap.

[mystery-ak]

This is nothing new..remember how they constantly reported in all the trash mags how W and Laura were divorcing....When Trump comes out ans says they are fighting, then I will believe it..the press just can't get over how successful this trip is that they need to find fault with something..so she swats his hand away...big deal...wait until they are married for 48 years ..lol

[Emjay]

Yeah, but if he walked behind her.... you just know he would then be accused of using her as his human shield....lol.  He can't win.  And hand-holding in public?   That's what yuppies do!  I just can't believe the idiots on the left are even discussing this kind of crap.

Me, either, XenaLee.  It is ridiculous.  One, it is protocol that the President walks first through any door.  Fast walkers have a hard time slowing down for people ... I'm usually trailing all the men in my family.

The leftist media have all their interns scrolling through videos now to try to find a frame where Melania is dissing Trump or vice versa.

So, yeah, it's bad enough that the media is doing this ... but all these people here joining in???

[txradioguy]

Yeah, but if he walked behind her.... you just know he would then be accused of using her as his human shield....lol.  He can't win.  And hand-holding in public?   That's what yuppies do!  I just can't believe the idiots on the left are even discussing this kind of crap.

A "yuppie thing"

 My parents have been married 51 years and they hold hands.

They certainly aren't yuppies.

I'm almost 50 and my wife and I hold hands all the time.

Might want to use a better analogy.

[Emjay]

A "yuppie thing"

 My parents have been married 51 years and they hold hands.

They certainly aren't yuppies.

I'm almost 50 and my wife and I hold hands all the time.

Might want to use a better analogy.

Gotta agree with you on that.  I like to see married people walking along holding hands.  My husband was very affectionate and loving but he just didn't like to hold hands which I kinda missed.

[txradioguy]

Gotta agree with you on that.  I like to see married people walking along holding hands.  My husband was very affectionate and loving but he just didn't like to hold hands which I kinda missed.

[XenaLee]

A "yuppie thing"

 My parents have been married 51 years and they hold hands.

They certainly aren't yuppies.

I'm almost 50 and my wife and I hold hands all the time.

Might want to use a better analogy.

I knew it!   I knew as soon as I typed it that it was going to catch flak....lol.

My parents didn't physically hold hands in public, but they were holding hands in their minds. 

I have no problem whatsoever with couples holding hands in public.  As long as you're not the POTUS.  Cause Lord knows, he already gives the idiot left enough ammo as it is.

There.  Better?   ^-^

[txradioguy]

I knew it!   I knew as soon as I typed it that it was going to catch flak....lol.

My parents didn't physically hold hands in public, but they were holding hands in their minds. 

I have no problem whatsoever with couples holding hands in public.  As long as you're not the POTUS.  Cause Lord knows, he already gives the idiot left enough ammo as it is.

There.  Better?   ^-^

Better...but the media using not holding hands as a sign of trouble isn't new...and not even a Republican only area.

The media was reporting on how cold Hillary was to Bill during the whole Monica thing...refusing to hold hands...giving him the cold shoulder as they walked to the Marine Helicopter etc as signs there was trouble in the relationship.

But it's also from people's personal experiences a sign that all is not well with a couple...ANY couple...it's non verbal communication.

At the end of the day he's a public figure who chose to seek this position...so he...and we shouldn't be shocked and aghast at the scrutiny of every thing he says and does...it comes with the job.

[Emjay]

I knew it!   I knew as soon as I typed it that it was going to catch flak....lol.

My parents didn't physically hold hands in public, but they were holding hands in their minds. 

I have no problem whatsoever with couples holding hands in public.  As long as you're not the POTUS.  Cause Lord knows, he already gives the idiot left enough ammo as it is.

There.  Better?   ^-^

Thank you, Xena.  My husband and I were the same way.

I think you're either a hand holder or you're not and it doesn't reflect the affection you feel for each other.

[libertybele]

The assumption is that he had a wide base to begin with.  Hillary was actually that bad where he was an acceptable alternative.  Depending on who they run in 2020, he's extremely beatable.

He had a wide enough base to win.  He's extremely beatable?  What are you basing that assumption on? He hasn't even served 6 months of his first term yet ... so far, despite all the rumors and fake news he's done pretty well.  Still waiting on the wall and Bammycare and yes, if the GOP doesn't deliver 2018 may be a nightmare.  However, who are the DEMS going to run?? Castro, maybe Warren?  If either of those two win, I hope you are prepared to kiss this country good-bye; especially if we lose the majority in either house.

[EC]

However, who are the DEMS going to run?? Castro, maybe Warren?

True. The Dem bench is so thin it's see through.

However, think back to 2005. Had anyone outside his state heard of a certain jug eared idiot junior senator? The Worm came out of nowhere. It could happen again.

As Han Solo says - "Don't get cocky, kid."

[Emjay]

Better...but the media using not holding hands as a sign of trouble isn't new...and not even a Republican only area.

The media was reporting on how cold Hillary was to Bill during the whole Monica thing...refusing to hold hands...giving him the cold shoulder as they walked to the Marine Helicopter etc as signs there was trouble in the relationship.

But it's also from people's personal experiences a sign that all is not well with a couple...ANY couple...it's non verbal communication.

At the end of the day he's a public figure who chose to seek this position...so he...and we shouldn't be shocked and aghast at the scrutiny of every thing he says and does...it comes with the job.

Well, duh,  it's okay if the press dumps on Bill and Hillary.  I thought you knew that.

[txradioguy]

Still waiting on the wall and Bammycare and yes, if the GOP doesn't deliver 2018 may be a nightmare.

Get ready for the nightmare. 

The wall isn't going to happen...even Trump was backtracking on that during the general campaign.

McConnell just said he doesn't think he can get 50 votes for the POS "repeal and replace" Obamacare-lite bill

He's helping OPEC and the Russians by talking about selling off more of our Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

And he's now waffling on moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem...muttering something about being able to bring peace between the Palestinian Terrorists and Israel...a.k.a. "the two state solution"...which would be the "final solution" for Israel.

If he wants to hold onto a GOP majority in the Mid-terms...his best course of action would be to start honoring some of the campaign promises he said he was going to do and let the public know he's doing it.

[Emjay]

Whatever. Not very important, in my view. I don't get involved with the daily Melania clothing threads, either.

You don't get involved in the Melania clothing threads?  Well, that's just sick.  Actually, I haven't worn anything but shorts and a t-shirt in two years, except a few Sundays when I went to church.

But I really enjoying observing what Melania is wearing.  Her taste is impeccable and she looks good in everything she wears.  It's fun having a first lady who is a good dresser.

[edpc]

BTW, are you yearning for a dem win or just philosophizing.

I'm being objective and honest.  Hillary was a terrible candidate and the margin of victory in some key states was very thin.  The number of votes for 3rd party candidates was often greater than the margin.  I have no idea who they'll run, but I'm fairly sure the Stein and Johnson voters would have a tendency to break more toward the democratic candidate in 2020, depending on who it will be.

[libertybele]

Get ready for the nightmare. 

The wall isn't going to happen...even Trump was backtracking on that during the general campaign.

McConnell just said he doesn't think he can get 50 votes for the POS "repeal and replace" Obamacare-lite bill

He's helping OPEC and the Russians by talking about selling off more of our Strategic Petroleum Reserve.

And he's now waffling on moving the U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem...muttering something about being able to bring peace between the Palestinian Terrorists and Israel...a.k.a. "the two state solution"...which would be the "final solution" for Israel.

If he wants to hold onto a GOP majority in the Mid-terms...his best course of action would be to start honoring some of the campaign promises he said he was going to do and let the public know he's doing it.

I agree, the wall isn't going to happen and it's rumored that there is a clause in the budget which prohibits it from being funded in the future; that is courtesy of Ryan and cronies.  So we may very well lose the House and the Senate.  If that should happen, conservatives like Cruz and Lee should really consider joining the Constitution Party; that's the only hope we have of this country staying afloat.  Only problem is, the slime will still exist in the Congress that they have to work with.

[XenaLee]

Better...but the media using not holding hands as a sign of trouble isn't new...and not even a Republican only area.

The media was reporting on how cold Hillary was to Bill during the whole Monica thing...refusing to hold hands...giving him the cold shoulder as they walked to the Marine Helicopter etc as signs there was trouble in the relationship.

But it's also from people's personal experiences a sign that all is not well with a couple...ANY couple...it's non verbal communication.

At the end of the day he's a public figure who chose to seek this position...so he...and we shouldn't be shocked and aghast at the scrutiny of every thing he says and does...it comes with the job.

Oh, I'm not shocked at all of the intense (anal retentive) scrutiny they're giving Trump.  And as far as the media goes with the Clintons, I seem to remember a gag-worthy moment or two where the media covered the Clintons in fawning, slobbering adoration.   The episode concerned a dance on the beach.... and also there were, miraculously, enough rocks that appeared (on a previously rock-less beach) for Bill to construct a presidential message of peace... or some such baloney. 

Double-standard all the way.  One that pisses me off to this day.

[XenaLee]

Thank you, Xena.  My husband and I were the same way.

I think you're either a hand holder or you're not and it doesn't reflect the affection you feel for each other.

It's weird.  Of all the men in my life, there's been only one (since one was a boy in high school, doesn't count...lol) that insisted on holding hands.   And he was a liberal.  One that made the mistake of dissing Reagan.  It lasted barely a year....heh.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Okay ENOUGH.....

How about this.... We're "joining the media" because we want to.   How about that?

We're joining the media in hating on Trump even AFTER you were the one who brought up yet another I-Don't-Give-A-Sh*t-Trite-Miniscule-Reason to scream about a Presspocalypse about Trump.  We don't give a sh*t whether or not someone holds his hand or not.  We frankly don't care the Yahoo is making a big deal about it.

But fine.  We've "joined the media" to hate on Trump.

What you gonna do about it besides bitch and moan?

I got an idea, why not petition your leader to get rid of the First Amendment?

That ought to create the utopia you seek.

The word 'Hate' once again in your posts.

Can you possibly write something meaningful that does not condemn someone else or curses?

God hates the sin, but loves the sinner.

[roamer_1]

God hates the sin, but loves the sinner.

You need to read the Book.
That kind of thinking is when the prophets show up, preaching doom.
And prophets were not known for kind tolerance and polity.

[INVAR]

The word 'Hate' once again in your posts.

Excuse your abject and willful ignorance - but my post that you decided to flag as bringing up 'hate' was a reply to THIS post:

This whole thing is illustrative of Trump hate ..... why are you joining with the media?

We've been accused of hate and joining the media simply because we decided to opine on the subject, so I responded as warranted.

Can you possibly write something meaningful that does not condemn someone else or curses?

I did.  Even had quotes from John Adams in there.  You decided to condemn and curse it.

God hates the sin, but loves the sinner.

roamer answered you well.  God is not a big fan of the unrepentant, contrary to what lukewarm churchianity teaches.