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The Comey memo offers NO PROOF for impeachment of Trump
« on: May 18, 2017, 04:21:30 pm »
SOURCE: THE HILL

URL: http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/the-administration/333764-opinion-the-comey-memo-offers-zero-proof-to-impeach

BY JONATHAN TURLEY, Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University.



With the scandal du jour of the Comey memo, President Donald Trump’s trip to Saudi Arabia looks less like a diplomatic flight as fleeing the jurisdiction. For the first time, the Comey memo pushes the litany of controversies surrounding Trump into the scope of the United States criminal code.

However, if this is food for obstruction of justice, it is still an awfully thin soup. Some commentators seem to be alleging criminal conduct in office or calling for impeachment before Trump completed the words of his inaugural oath of office. Not surprising, within minutes of the New York Times report, the response was a chorus of breathless “gotcha” announcements. But this memo is neither the Pentagon Papers nor the Watergate tapes. Indeed, it raises as many questions for Comey as it does Trump in terms of the alleged underlying conduct.

A good place to start would be with the federal law, specifically 18 U.S.C. 1503. The criminal code demands more than what Comey reportedly describes in his memo.There are dozens of different variations of obstruction charges ranging from threatening witnesses to influencing jurors. None would fit this case. That leaves the omnibus provision on attempts to interfere with the “due administration of justice.”
 

However, that still leaves the need to show that the effort was to influence “corruptly” when Trump could say that he did little but express concern for a longtime associate. The term “corruptly” is actually defined differently under the various obstruction provisions, but it often involves a showing that someone acted “with the intent to secure an unlawful benefit for oneself or another." Encouraging leniency or advocating for an associate is improper but not necessarily seeking an unlawful benefit for him.

Then there is the question of corruptly influencing what? There is no indication of a grand jury proceeding at the time of the Valentine's Day meeting between Trump and Comey. Obstruction cases generally are built around judicial proceedings — not Oval Office meetings.

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Re: The Comey memo offers NO PROOF for impeachment of Trump
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2017, 04:27:37 pm »
Hoping is NOT a crime!
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Re: The Comey memo offers NO PROOF for impeachment of Trump
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2017, 04:32:22 pm »
Hoping is NOT a crime!

Not only that, if Comey thought Trump tried to impede his investigations, he should have INFORMED Congress. Not only did he not do that, we have a video of Comey testifying UNDER OATH 3 months later, informing Congress that Trump DID NOTHING to impede his investigations.

Here's the smoking gun video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p3nMwFt5M0

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Re: The Comey memo offers NO PROOF for impeachment of Trump
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2017, 04:34:49 pm »
Not only that, if Comey thought Trump tried to impede his investigations, he should have INFORMED Congress. Not only did he not do that, we have a video of Comey testifying UNDER OATH 3 months later, informing Congress that Trump DID NOTHING to impede his investigations.

Here's the smoking gun video:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_p3nMwFt5M0


Not only that. I would add Trump has the power to stop an investigation by his own branch of government.