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No.  Not good times.  Not then and certainly not now.  Just "say no" to helping the leftist agenda along.

Screw the leftist agenda. This is about the treasonous piece of garbage "conservatives" put in the white house and are now trying to protect.

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Screw the leftist agenda. This is about the treasonous piece of garbage "conservatives" put in the white house and are now trying to protect.

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It's as much of a defense by those that refuse to hear anything bad about Donald as those on the left that used to and continue to bash Fox News for not being a "real" news outlet.

Exactly.  This knee jerk practice of yelling "fake news" because we don't like the source or the POV excludes thought.  It's precisely what TOS does, and it's based on emotion and tribalism.

It's absolutely true that many in the media want Trump taken down, but that doesn't mean every single thing written is completely false.  Sometimes they get things right.  We ought to wait and let the facts come out before dismissing every damn thing we don't like.  If something really is fake news, it'll be revealed.


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Screw the leftist agenda. This is about the treasonous piece of garbage "conservatives" put in the white house and are now trying to protect.

Don't like it? Block me.




Well the thread is never complete until we get an "I hate Trump and you people were fools for not making sure Hillary Clinton got elected!"    message. 


Yes,  we would be so much better off if that had happened.   
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I find events like this to be extremely disconcerting, because they reflect poorly on all concerned, and because they seem to be happening on a daily basis with this Administration.

Donald Trump is proving to be as inexperienced and undisciplined as many of us warned he would be during the campaign.

For someone who loudly Trumpeted his own executive experience as a unique value proposition, the President is running a disjointed, disorganized and dysfunctional ship.

At the same time, the mainstream news media is proving to be as hysterically unhinged and unabashedly biased as it has ever been.

I'm tempted to say that Americans deserve better on both scores, except that we keep dutifully electing crooks, morons, and liars and gleefully ingesting manufactured news and dumb-ass entertainment, so it's a sad commentary on the nation as well.
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I find events like this to be extremely disconcerting, because they reflect poorly on all concerned, and because they seem to be happening on a daily basis with this Administration.

Donald Trump is proving to be as inexperienced and undisciplined as many of us warned he would be during the campaign.

For someone who loudly Trumpeted his own executive experience as a unique value proposition, the President is running a disjointed, disorganized and dysfunctional ship.




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Screw the leftist agenda. This is about the treasonous piece of garbage "conservatives" put in the white house and are now trying to protect.

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You said "screw the leftist agenda".  You're not accomplishing that via your stance here.  You're helping them every time you blindly accept any fake news put out by the radical left to 'take down Trump'.

As for blocking you.... I presume that you mean put you on 'ignore'.  Why would I do that? 
« Last Edit: May 16, 2017, 02:14:55 pm by XenaLee »
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Especially since he gave the information to Russia who can't be trusted..

@kevindavis

I read that Sean Spicer said we're going to be working with Iran on something...trying to find it.

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Exactly.  This knee jerk practice of yelling "fake news" because we don't like the source or the POV excludes thought.  It's precisely what TOS does, and it's based on emotion and tribalism.

It's absolutely true that many in the media want Trump taken down, but that doesn't mean every single thing written is completely false.  Sometimes they get things right.  We ought to wait and let the facts come out before dismissing every damn thing we don't like.  If something really is fake news, it'll be revealed.


This current media feeding frenzy is clearly #FakeNews.    It is acknowledged by pretty much everyone that the President has a right to show classified information to whomever he chooses,   so the tantrum throwing media wing of the Democrat party adds to this the assertion that "It has compromised intelligence gathering assets"  and is therefore beyond the pale. 


We have McMasters assuring us that he did no such thing,  so a rational person must conclude the Media is deliberately trying to make a fake narrative into a "bombshell"  (Word used repeatedly by "Good Morning America"  today)   scandal.   


The media is trying to *FORCE*  the narrative that Trump is an incompetent,  potentially treasonous fool who should be immediately impeached and his supporters should also immediately recognize that they are fools and idiots for not supporting the smartest woman in the world.   

They need to be hit in the mouth and told to stop lying by distortion.   

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The media is trying to *FORCE*  the narrative that Trump is an incompetent,  potentially treasonous fool who should be immediately impeached and his supporters should also immediately recognize that they are fools and idiots for not supporting the smartest woman in the world.   


Or maybe the fact that Trump is an incompetent, potentially treasonous fool is driving the narrative that Trump is an incompetent, potentially treasonous fool?

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Exactly.  This knee jerk practice of yelling "fake news" because we don't like the source or the POV excludes thought.  It's precisely what TOS does, and it's based on emotion and tribalism.

It's not knee jerk if 4 totally fabricated stories based on unnamed sources comes out over the last 7 days.

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I find events like this to be extremely disconcerting, because they reflect poorly on all concerned, and because they seem to be happening on a daily basis with this Administration.


Yes,  because the media constantly make up fake news stories,  sensationalize anything he says,   and along with their allies in the entertainment media constantly mock and disparage him,   it's all Trump's fault that the airwaves are filled with this garbage.   

No,  I think the problem is that the New York Left have a complete monopoly of control on a trillion dollar broadcasting infrastructure,  and they use it to push their political agenda.   




Donald Trump is proving to be as inexperienced and undisciplined as many of us warned he would be during the campaign.


And there is the "We were Right!  We told you so! "  claim that so many of you are desperate for us to believe. 

No,  you were not 't right.  You were absolutely wrong,  because you can't beat they psychotic Witch Queen Hillary with a nobody.   We had to have Trump to beat her,  and so we have come out quite a bit better than we would have had we listened to your anti-Trump spiel.   




For someone who loudly Trumpeted his own executive experience as a unique value proposition, the President is running a disjointed, disorganized and dysfunctional ship.


Says who?   The liars in the Media and the Trump haters?   Not at all.   It's just made up fake crap of the sort that needs to be beaten down.    I'm sick of the Liberal New York Democrat media deciding what is a "scandal"   and what is not.    Obama did far worse,  but because he is on their side,  they ignored every wicked thing he did.   






At the same time, the mainstream news media is proving to be as hysterically unhinged and unabashedly biased as it has ever been.


And that part you got right. 

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I find events like this to be extremely disconcerting, because they reflect poorly on all concerned, and because they seem to be happening on a daily basis with this Administration.

Donald Trump is proving to be as inexperienced and undisciplined as many of us warned he would be during the campaign.

For someone who loudly Trumpeted his own executive experience as a unique value proposition, the President is running a disjointed, disorganized and dysfunctional ship.

At the same time, the mainstream news media is proving to be as hysterically unhinged and unabashedly biased as it has ever been.

I'm tempted to say that Americans deserve better on both scores, except that we keep dutifully electing crooks, morons, and liars and gleefully ingesting manufactured news and dumb-ass entertainment, so it's a sad commentary on the nation as well.

I don't think we deserve better.  Look at the arguments put forth to bypass all of the acceptable options on the Republican debate stage in order to go with the guy who bragged about the size of his genitals.

This is what the country asked for.  Honestly---and I don't mean this personally for you---I think it's arrogant to believe we deserve better.  We've done nothing to show it.

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Or maybe the fact that Trump is an incompetent, potentially treasonous fool is driving the narrative that Trump is an incompetent, potentially treasonous fool?


They said Hillary was the smartest woman in the world and should be President,   so I would pretty much think they are incorrect about everything else as well.   

So are those who agree with them. 


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Or maybe the fact that Trump is an incompetent, potentially treasonous fool is driving the narrative that Trump is an incompetent, potentially treasonous fool?

A lot of unethical people are desperately trying to use the media to distract from the fact that Trump is a completely incompetent buffoon with a crush on Putin.

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I find events like this to be extremely disconcerting, because they reflect poorly on all concerned, and because they seem to be happening on a daily basis with this Administration.

Donald Trump is proving to be as inexperienced and undisciplined as many of us warned he would be during the campaign.

For someone who loudly Trumpeted his own executive experience as a unique value proposition, the President is running a disjointed, disorganized and dysfunctional ship.

At the same time, the mainstream news media is proving to be as hysterically unhinged and unabashedly biased as it has ever been.

I'm tempted to say that Americans deserve better on both scores, except that we keep dutifully electing crooks, morons, and liars and gleefully ingesting manufactured news and dumb-ass entertainment, so it's a sad commentary on the nation as well.

On the bright side (since it appears we'll get very little reformative legislation out of this administration and congress) if the current hash in DC causes Americans to increasingly lose faith in both the news media and the federal government that be an acceptable consolation prize.
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It's not knee jerk if 4 totally fabricated stories based on unnamed sources comes out over the last 7 days.

Yet we should be waiting to judge each one on its merits or lack of same. 

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This current media feeding frenzy is clearly #FakeNews.    It is acknowledged by pretty much everyone that the President has a right to show classified information to whomever he chooses,   so the tantrum throwing media wing of the Democrat party adds to this the assertion that "It has compromised intelligence gathering assets"  and is therefore beyond the pale. 


We have McMasters assuring us that he did no such thing,  so a rational person must conclude the Media is deliberately trying to make a fake narrative into a "bombshell"  (Word used repeatedly by "Good Morning America"  today)   scandal.   


The media is trying to *FORCE*  the narrative that Trump is an incompetent,  potentially treasonous fool who should be immediately impeached and his supporters should also immediately recognize that they are fools and idiots for not supporting the smartest woman in the world.   

They need to be hit in the mouth and told to stop lying by distortion.

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Exactly.  This knee jerk practice of yelling "fake news" because we don't like the source or the POV excludes thought.  It's precisely what TOS does, and it's based on emotion and tribalism.

It's absolutely true that many in the media want Trump taken down, but that doesn't mean every single thing written is completely false.  Sometimes they get things right.  We ought to wait and let the facts come out before dismissing every damn thing we don't like.  If something really is fake news, it'll be revealed.

Exactly WHAT SOURCE?! Please CRITICALLY read the article in its entirety. It only took me half way to break apart this garbage. I'll point out the quotes from the article below with my commentary and I hope you reach the same conclusion that a high schooler could do better than a propagandist media.



So I'm going to ask the obvious question if anyone actually CRITICALLY reads any of the absolute garbage word for word his rag publishes? And when I say word for word I mean critically think of every word chosen. Here's a start and this didn't take me long to grab these snippets and I only got half way through the article.

"according to current and former U.S. officials"
Translation: democrat members of the senate intelligence committee

"officials said."
Random democratic Congress critters

"provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement"
A UN ally in cahoots with the socialist arm of our government and Pravda media looking to take down our duly elected president through constant innuendo. Did you watch the presser last night?

"The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia"
Oh those pesky Russians again! And who is this mystery partner

"officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally"
Democrat members again from the Senate intelligence committee leaking garbage to the press to continue stoking the fire to overthrow our President

"senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage"
Career Obamabot bureaucrats

"This is code-word information,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter"
Another U.S. official in other words a Democrat

"It was during that meeting, officials said, that Trump went off script"
Not what McMaster said at the presser yesterday who was at the meeting but hey let's not deal with pesky details such as this

"McMaster reiterated his statement in a subsequent appearance at the White House on Monday and described the Washington Post story as “false,” but did not take any questions"

"It is all kind of shocking,” said a former senior U.S. official who is close to current administration officials"
Hahahaha! This one is HILARIOUS! Hell this could be Susan Rice and Chuck Schumer for all we know!!

This article is the BIGGEST bucket of horse manure I've ever read and I ONLY got half way through it!  Why do critical readers not critically think and digest what it is they are reading and I'm not a 100% Trump fan either. I support misty of his policies but not all.

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I don't think we deserve better.  Look at the arguments put forth to bypass all of the acceptable options on the Republican debate stage in order to go with the guy who bragged about the size of his genitals.

This is what the country asked for.  Honestly---and I don't mean this personally for you---I think it's arrogant to believe we deserve better.  We've done nothing to show it.

I don't just think we deserve better... I know we deserve better. 

We, as a freedom-loving nation that has sacrificed countless souls to preserve that freedom, deserve better than a Pravda-like leftist "news" media that only reports what furthers their leftist agenda.  To say otherwise is an admission that you're ok with that radical left agenda.  And I'm pretty sure that's not the case with you. 

I'm no Trump fan, but this constant assault and 'take Trump down' BS is what it is.  And it's OBVIOUS what the goal is by the idiot left that is pushing it.  If they are successful, we're back at square one with Hillary or yet another rabid leftist in the White House.

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A lot of unethical people are desperately trying to use the media to distract from the fact that Trump is a completely incompetent buffoon with a crush on Putin.


You wish.   I've been saying the media people (Headquartered in Liberal New York that voted for Barack Obama by 89% and most of whom are blood related or married to Democrat Officeholders)   are news manipulating liars for the last two decades,  and that they are a graver threat to the interests of this nation than are international terrorists.   


The fact that they are now using their power to attack Trump and that they are getting aid and comfort from their Trump hating allies,  is just more evidence of what I have been saying since Bill Clinton got elected. 


Somehow the media have completely ignored all of Bill Clinton's "Grab them by the P*sssy"  behavior,  and gotten the fools of the nation to focus on Trump saying some words in private.   


You and your ilk are puppets that only have the knowledge which you use to hate Trump because the media made certain that this information found it's way to you. 

You have been successfully stampeded by another Washington/New York Controlled media propaganda effort,  and are now working to enact their agenda instead of the one in which you claim to believe. 


You are doing exactly what the media want you to do.   


"Sheep"  thought I. 

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The Washington Compost story was that he revealed methods and therefore compromised intelligence assets.   

 

Are there different version of the WAPO story?  The one I read (which is link at the top of this thread), said:

Trump went on to discuss aspects of the threat that the United States learned only through the espionage capabilities of a key partner. He did not reveal the specific intelligence-gathering method, but he described how the Islamic State was pursuing elements of a specific plot and how much harm such an attack could cause under varying circumstances. Most alarmingly, officials said, Trump revealed the city in the Islamic State’s territory where the U.S. intelligence partner detected the threat.

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Funny.... but I view that graphic a bit differently.   I see it as more exemplifying how the Trump-haters are only too eager .... or even desperate.... to gobble down as many items of 'crap' news as they are being fed by the radical left these days....(as long as it bashes Trump, that's all that matters).   

Perhaps, at least subconsciously, you guys see it too.... :silly:
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Exactly WHAT SOURCE?! Please CRITICALLY read the article in its entirety. It only took me half way to break apart this garbage. I'll point out the quotes from the article below with my commentary and I hope you reach the same conclusion that a high schooler could do better than a propagandist media.



So I'm going to ask the obvious question if anyone actually CRITICALLY reads any of the absolute garbage word for word his rag publishes? And when I say word for word I mean critically think of every word chosen. Here's a start and this didn't take me long to grab these snippets and I only got half way through the article.

"according to current and former U.S. officials"
Translation: democrat members of the senate intelligence committee

"officials said."
Random democratic Congress critters

"provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement"
A UN ally in cahoots with the socialist arm of our government and Pravda media looking to take down our duly elected president through constant innuendo. Did you watch the presser last night?

"The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia"
Oh those pesky Russians again! And who is this mystery partner

"officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally"
Democrat members again from the Senate intelligence committee leaking garbage to the press to continue stoking the fire to overthrow our President

"senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage"
Career Obamabot bureaucrats

"This is code-word information,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter"
Another U.S. official in other words a Democrat

"It was during that meeting, officials said, that Trump went off script"
Not what McMaster said at the presser yesterday who was at the meeting but hey let's not deal with pesky details such as this

"McMaster reiterated his statement in a subsequent appearance at the White House on Monday and described the Washington Post story as “false,” but did not take any questions"

"It is all kind of shocking,” said a former senior U.S. official who is close to current administration officials"
Hahahaha! This one is HILARIOUS! Hell this could be Susan Rice and Chuck Schumer for all we know!!

This article is the BIGGEST bucket of horse manure I've ever read and I ONLY got half way through it!  Why do critical readers not critically think and digest what it is they are reading and I'm not a 100% Trump fan either. I support misty of his policies but not all.

Agreed....btw McMaster is going to have a briefing in about 45min.....stay tuned..lol
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