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Army veteran accused in dog death found dead in North Carolina apartment
BY Nicole Hensley
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Monday, May 8, 2017, 2:49 AM

An Army veteran accused of killing her dog in North Carolina was found dead early Sunday and police are investigating the death as a possible suicide.

Marinna Rollins, 23, was out on bail for animal cruelty charges filed in Cumberland County Sheriff’s Office in April.

The retired veteran’s friends found Rollins’ body in her apartment around 3 a.m. in Fayetteville, according to city police Lt. Todd Joyce.

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I don't know if I should even post these kinds of "downer" stories but what they did was clearly very wrong.

The story mentions that she suffered from PTSD, post traumatic stress disorder.

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I don't know if I should even post these kinds of "downer" stories but what they did was clearly very wrong.

The story mentions that she suffered from PTSD, post traumatic stress disorder.

PTSD doesn't make you do sadistic acts of violence.

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PTSD doesn't make you do sadistic acts of violence.

Unfortunately, sometimes yes it does.
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Unfortunately, sometimes yes it does.

I don't agree. 

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That's your right.

Of course it is.

I did include "sadistic".  That's not a characteristic of PTSD.

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It sounds like she was "jllted" by her old boyfriend, she ended up with a new boyfriend, this Deng, who from photos I've seen almost looks bi-racial.  On top of all of this, they decided to go Michael Vick but anyone taking film of themselves doing such a horrible thing, I've got to question. She apparently had a few influences in her life that could have been factors.

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Of course it is.

I did include "sadistic".  That's not a characteristic of PTSD.

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Hostility, anger, self-destructive behavior, extreme anxiety and irritability are all symptoms of PTSD. All of those can lead to behavior which could be called sadistic.  Maybe she was messed up before and maybe just evil but we dont know that.  We do know she was diagnosed with ptsd.

22 veterans  kill themselves a day.

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The poor lady and her poor dog.

I hope they are both in a better place,

Mental illness - PTSD, depression- it's a real b***ch.

I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

Bless both their souls.
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The poor lady and her poor dog.

I hope they are both in a better place,

Mental illness - PTSD, depression- it's a real b***ch.

I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

Bless both their souls.

Very thoughtful post.  Thanks.

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Hostility, anger, self-destructive behavior, extreme anxiety and irritability are all symptoms of PTSD. All of those can lead to behavior which could be called sadistic.  Maybe she was messed up before and maybe just evil but we dont know that.  We do know she was diagnosed with ptsd.

22 veterans  kill themselves a day.

Mental illness and evil are two different things.  Mentally ill people are not necessarily evil, though both qualities may be present in one person.  PTSD does not cause one to act evilly. 

Further, PTSD is a perfectly normal reaction to abnormal events. 

I absolutely hate the depiction of veterans as maniacal killers.  It's just not true.
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Neither PTSD not BiPolar make you incapable of logical thought. If they did, we would lock people up for having it.

Every person I know who had PTSD and killed themselves was guilty of coming off their meds cold turkey (anecdotal but still..)
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Mental illness and evil are two different things.  Mentally ill people are not necessarily evil, though both qualities may be present in one person.  PTSD does not cause one to act evilly. 

Further, PTSD is a perfectly normal reaction to abnormal events. 

I absolutely hate the depiction of veterans as maniacal killers.  It's just not true.

Absolutely PTSD and evil are different.  PTSD causes people to make bad decisions and make irrational choices.  Perhaps its not the PTSD but the desperation those folks sometimes get into.

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Neither PTSD not BiPolar make you incapable of logical thought. If they did, we would lock people up for having it.

Every person I know who had PTSD and killed themselves was guilty of coming off their meds cold turkey (anecdotal but still..)

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They rarely lock anyone up for mental illness let alone PTSD.
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They rarely lock anyone up for mental illness let alone PTSD.

Hello? Hello?

'They' lock people up all the time for being 'mentally ill'

It's sold under a number of soft and cuddly aphorisms.

People are Court Ordered to ingest psychiatric drugs or Back Inside They Go.


As for the report:

"who was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and medically retired from the military in January."

Being 'Medically Retired' has me smelling 'Medically Treated'.

A quack OPINION of PTSD does not in and of itself cause or indicate violence.

Psychiatric Drugs Do.

http://psychroaches.blogspot.com/2009/05/mental-health-comes-with-free-homicide.html

The Drugs cause murder and suicide.

They can easily go from murdering people to murdering a dog.

http://psychroachesadverseevent.blogspot.com/2009/03/anitpsychoticneuroleptic-poisons.html

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Hello? Hello?

'They' lock people up all the time for being 'mentally ill'

It's sold under a number of soft and cuddly aphorisms.

People are Court Ordered to ingest psychiatric drugs or Back Inside They Go.


As for the report:

"who was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and medically retired from the military in January."

Being 'Medically Retired' has me smelling 'Medically Treated'.

A quack OPINION of PTSD does not in and of itself cause or indicate violence.

Psychiatric Drugs Do.

http://psychroaches.blogspot.com/2009/05/mental-health-comes-with-free-homicide.html

The Drugs cause murder and suicide.

They can easily go from murdering people to murdering a dog.

http://psychroachesadverseevent.blogspot.com/2009/03/anitpsychoticneuroleptic-poisons.html

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Of course a medical opinion (aka diagnosis) doesn't cause someone to hurt someone else.   What an asinine statement.

The VA does over prescribe serious and powerful drugs.  I've had numerous friends tell me they hand em out like candy.

quibbling about whether it was the drugs or the condition is idiotic, the point is she was likely a very troubled young lady.  Its a crying shame she and the others who have taken their own life (22 today based on the numbers) aren't given better treatment.
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Of course a medical opinion (aka diagnosis) doesn't cause someone to hurt someone else.   What an asinine statement.

The VA does over prescribe serious and powerful drugs.  I've had numerous friends tell me they hand em out like candy.

quibbling about whether it was the drugs or the condition is idiotic, the point is she was likely a very troubled young lady.  Its a crying shame she and the others who have taken their own life (22 today based on the numbers) aren't given better treatment.

And, what is the treatment for evil?

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And, what is the treatment for evil?

Jesus.

I doubt she was evil.   Probably just a very troubled vet who needed help and didn't get it.   I know many that have a very difficult time upon returning.    I don't know what she went through and am not going to judge.   She's beyond our judgement now anyway.
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Jesus.

I doubt she was evil.   Probably just a very troubled vet who needed help and didn't get it.   I know many that have a very difficult time upon returning.    I don't know what she went through and am not going to judge.   She's beyond our judgement now anyway.

It that wasn't evil then the word is meaningless.

And, yes, I don't need to can't judge the state of her soul, just her actions.
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It that wasn't evil then the word is meaningless.

And, yes, I don't need to can't judge the state of her soul, just her actions.

@Sanguine

Thousands of cats and dogs are killed every day by vets.  Are they also evil?
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It that wasn't evil then the word is meaningless.

And, yes, I don't need to can't judge the state of her soul, just her actions.

I won't judge her. She judged herself - harshly.

But a gentle comment - a person need not be evil to do an evil deed. Which is tastier to the Father of Lies and Corrupter of All - an evil done for the pleasure of the person doing it, or an evil done by a good person in a bad situation?

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Thousands of cats and dogs are killed every day by vets.  Are they also evil?

Wow - that's quite an equivalence you've created there.  If someone else had suggested that to you, would you agree?

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Wow - that's quite an equivalence you've created there.  If someone else had suggested that to you, would you agree?

I wouldn't call a trouble veteran evil.  Since the only action you know of that she's done is shoot a healthy dog the comparison is fine with me.  Yes killing dogs for the sole reason being they aren't wanted is evil.
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I wouldn't call a trouble veteran evil.  Since the only action you know of that she's done is shoot a healthy dog the comparison is fine with me.  Yes killing dogs for the sole reason being they aren't wanted is evil.

From the article:  " Police said Rollins and her soldier boyfriend, Jarren Heng, recorded Cam’s gruesome death in a video.

The video footage showed the couple giggling while blasting Cam with five bullets. Rollins then dragged the dog to a shallow grave."

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From the article:  " Police said Rollins and her soldier boyfriend, Jarren Heng, recorded Cam’s gruesome death in a video.

The video footage showed the couple giggling while blasting Cam with five bullets. Rollins then dragged the dog to a shallow grave."

Blasting eh.  Did she use an evil space gun?
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