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If this Yahoo article was about Trump criticizing the Electoral College I think we'd all be dumping on him right now.

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Warn about what? He is who he is and thanks to the "archaic system" he can't cause that much trouble.
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When I clicked on the link, I fully expected to get a "Rick Roll".

Comments like these, no matter the source, illustrates again the brilliance of Madison, Jefferson, Franklin, et.al. when they crafted the Constitution. It is performing exactly as intended, 230 years later: to limit the control the government has over its citizens.

Supporters of Trump should be embarrassed by POTUS's comments. As much as they want Trump to be their dictator, our republic simply doesn't work that way.
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The abuse by the Courts shows the Constitution is not working as intended so RINO Republicans jump on Trump's case. Anyone who says the SCOTUS has handed down Constitutional decisions would be greatly wrong.

The original quotes are somewhat out of context. Whatever the media can do to try to undermine a Conservative president.

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Didn't realize the 9th district court or the decisions on gay marriage at the SCOTUS show how functional the constitution is.  Let's hope detractors, critics of Trump are consistent and say those decisions by the 9th district court, the SCOTUS health care and gay marriage decisions are likewise, Constitutional.

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Well...

Sounds to me like he doesn't like the check and balances and rules that have kept this country from sliding into a dictatorshoip for almost 240 years.

HE wants to be able to ram through whatever law he wants passed with no opposition.  It's almost like he took a page from Obama's talking points.

We did not have worries over noted similarities Trump shares with Mussolini without reason.  When you are CEO of your own empire - you are a dictator and this is exactly how we said Trump would want to govern the country because it is all he knows.

Trump is just reminding us of this.  Whether he acts on those thoughts in terms of abolishing our "Archaic system' so it "works more efficiently" (as all dictators will tell you is their intention) "for the people".
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Didn't realize the 9th district court or the decisions on gay marriage at the SCOTUS show how functional the constitution is.  Let's hope detractors, critics of Trump are consistent and say those decisions by the 9th district court, the SCOTUS health care and gay marriage decisions are likewise, Constitutional.


Then Congress should introduce a bill that will break up the 9th district. Plain and simple.
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Dear Tom,
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Really not surprised at this point.  We tried to warn people.
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Why? You don't care about the unborn? Proud of my vote and by the way, this story has been proven a total fabrication now.

http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2017/04/28/president-trump-reflects-on-his-first-100-days.html
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Original article exposed as a fabrication.
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You look at the rules of the Senate, even the rules of the House, bit the rule of the Senate and some of the things you have to go through, it's really a bad thing for the country in my opinion.

There are archaic rules and maybe at some point, we're going to have to take those rules on because for the good of the nation things are going to have to be different. You can't go through a process like this. It's not fair, it forces you to make bad decisions. I mean, if you're forced into doing things that you would normally not do except for these archaic rules, so --

http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2017/04/28/president-trump-reflects-on-his-first-100-days.html

Constitution is not even mentioned in the article.

Mainstream Media, meet the liar, same as the old liar.

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Constitution is not even mentioned in the article.



Point taken.  Now come over to the Trump CW thread and explain that...........
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The Yahoo article looks like hyperbolic editorializing as he never said Constitution at this sit down.

Now as far as Senate and House rules, on some I can agree. The filibuster is ridiculous. I'd much rather need 60 votes to strike down a SCOTUS ruling.

Some of those rule are archaic, some were often put in with ulterior motives. Some are Robert's Rules, some are just prodecural chair shuffling.
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Why? You don't care about the unborn? Proud of my vote and by the way, this story has been proven a total fabrication now.

http://www.foxnews.com/transcript/2017/04/28/president-trump-reflects-on-his-first-100-days.html

Protection of the unborn has nothing to do with Donny.

Congress...with a Republican majority could have protected them just as well if not better than our current pen and phone President.
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"Donald Trump has blamed the US constitution for the problems he has encountered during his first 100 days in office."


This is absolute, unmitigated   :bs:

Once again, I refer you to what the President actually said .... this time about the bureaucratic rules of Congress and the Senate (not the Constitution) being slow and archaic.

Forward to 8:20:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YLKFylRM9o









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This is absolute, unmitigated   :bs:

Once again, I refer you to what the President actually said .... this time about the bureaucratic rules of Congress and the Senate (not the Constitution) being slow and archaic.

Forward to 8:20:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YLKFylRM9o

Ummm what document do you think set up those rules for the Congress and the Senate?

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Warn about what? He is who he is and thanks to the "archaic system" he can't cause that much trouble.

I and others warned that Trump was clueless.  He didn't have a clue (and perhaps still doesn't) about the functionality of the three branches of government, especially the executive branch.  It was very obvious and Trump has admitted since then that you cannot run this country as one of his businesses or a corporation.  He didn't have a clue that the United States is a Republic. We warned that he has spent most of his life as a New York liberal and those ideals haven't changed and he simply ran under the Republican umbrella leaving the door open for his friend Hillary. We warned that Trump says one thing and shortly later back pedals on what he has said.

Trump by his actions has functioned by bullying, suing and bad-mouthing people if he didn't get his way throughout his life.  Definitely not appropriate behavior for the President of the United States nor is it conducive to bringing party together and certainly not our country.

Frank, he's only been in office 100 days ... I wouldn't bank on him not being able to cause that much trouble.
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I and others warned that Trump was clueless.  He didn't have a clue (and perhaps still doesn't) about the functionality of the three branches of government, especially the executive branch.  It was very obvious and Trump has admitted since then that you cannot run this country as one of his businesses or a corporation.  He didn't have a clue that the United States is a Republic. We warned that he has spent most of his life as a New York liberal and those ideals haven't changed and he simply ran under the Republican umbrella leaving the door open for his friend Hillary. We warned that Trump says one thing and shortly later back pedals on what he has said.

Trump by his actions has functioned by bullying, suing and bad-mouthing people if he didn't get his way throughout his life.  Definitely not appropriate behavior for the President of the United States nor is it conducive to bringing party together and certainly not our country.

Frank, he's only been in office 100 days ... I wouldn't bank on him not being able to cause that much trouble.

Personally I think he'll eventually resign. If it weren't for his love of attention I would expect him to retreat into the shadows and let his democrat daughter and son in law run the show.

If he resigns he'll get months of coverage out of it and will be out there blaming everybody else, promising to tell all or teasing another run as a democrat or something etc.

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Ummm what document do you think set up those rules for the Congress and the Senate?

 :whistle:

Well, genius, AKA @txradioguy ... show me where the Constitution requires a 60 vote majority to pass legislation in the Senate.  Be specific.

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I and others warned that Trump was clueless.  He didn't have a clue (and perhaps still doesn't) about the functionality of the three branches of government, especially the executive branch. together and certainly not our country. 

You're really flinging the  :bsflag: today @libertybele

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Well, genius, AKA @txradioguy ... show me where the Constitution requires a 60 vote majority to pass legislation in the Senate.  Be specific.

As I pointed out yesterday...the guidelines for the House and Senate are split between what's stated in the Constitution and a book called Roberts Rules for Meetings which has been around since the 1870's and is followed by literally every federal state and local governing body in the U.S.

But specifically to your question...check out Article 1 Section 5 Clause 2.  Also Section 7 Clause 3...Section 8...and that clause entitled "Necessary and Proper".

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You're really flinging the  :bsflag: today @libertybele

Wake up on the wrong side of the bed?

Aren't you just the precious one when your angry.  :silly:
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