President Trump just had his bluff called — again

[mystery-ak]

President Trump just had his bluff called — again
By Aaron Blake April 25 at 8:03 AM

For the second time in two major legislative battles, the Trump White House has issued an ultimatum — only to back down.

In the health care debate, the president was going to force a House vote on the package and dare skeptical Republicans to vote against replacing Obamacare, before abandoning that plan in the face of defeat.

And now, in the government funding debate, he's backing off his previous demand that Congress approve funding for his border wall. As The Washington Post's Philip Rucker, Robert Costa and David Weigel report:

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/25/president-trump-just-had-his-bluff-called-again/?utm_term=.287296b2be1d

[INVAR]

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!

SUCKAHS!!!!!!

But the blame game will begin - as Mr. Art of the Deal demonstrates his prowess at surrender.

[mystery-ak]

Is Trump still winning?

[libertybele]

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!

SUCKAHS!!!!!!

But the blame game will begin - as Mr. Art of the Deal demonstrates his prowess at surrender.

...hmm...only problem is, I don't recall him meeting with members of his own party majority to get funding for the wall.  The only thing I've heard of is him bending over for the DEMS.

[INVAR]

...hmm...only problem is, I don't recall him meeting with members of his own party majority to get funding for the wall.  The only thing I've heard of is him bending over for the DEMS.

He's a "true Republican" then.  Bending over for the Dems is what they do BEST.

[Smokin Joe]

Is Trump still winning?

He's just advancing in a different direction. :nometalk:

[Gov Bean Counter]

President Trump just had his bluff called — again
By Aaron Blake April 25 at 8:03 AM

For the second time in two major legislative battles, the Trump White House has issued an ultimatum — only to back down.

In the health care debate, the president was going to force a House vote on the package and dare skeptical Republicans to vote against replacing Obamacare, before abandoning that plan in the face of defeat.

And now, in the government funding debate, he's backing off his previous demand that Congress approve funding for his border wall. As The Washington Post's Philip Rucker, Robert Costa and David Weigel report:

more
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/04/25/president-trump-just-had-his-bluff-called-again/?utm_term=.287296b2be1d

Trump is getting his butt handed to him right now.

[Smokin Joe]

Trump is getting his butt handed to him right now.

Cruz may have the solution to the funding problem, anyway. Use El Chapo's assets the US seized to pay for part of it....and add any seized assets from Mexican (and other Central/South American) cartels/gangs to the pot.

[corbe]

   You people are making a big mistake, under estimating the guile of a multi-level chess player.

[Gov Bean Counter]

   You people are making a big mistake, under estimating the guile of a multi-level chess player.

Guile or bile???

[Sanguine]

Guile or bile???

Well, he's got a fork in his hand.

[240B]

BWAHAHAHAAHAHAAAHAHAHAAAAHAHAAAAA!!!!!!!!

SUCKAHS!!!!!!

Jeez dude, get a grip. That is a very strange thing to be 'happy' about.

I mean, unless you are a pro open borders Liberal Democrat, that is.

[geronl]

Cruz may have the solution to the funding problem, anyway. Use El Chapo's assets the US seized to pay for part of it....and add any seized assets from Mexican (and other Central/South American) cartels/gangs to the pot.

We might be able to seize his assets inside the US, but we are not going to be able to seize assets from other countries.

[corbe]

   Good Question @geronl

'El Chapo' Guzman's $16B in assets belong to Mexico, congressman claims


Published January 26, 2017
FoxNews.com
 
Members of the main opposition force in Mexico are demanding the federal government to take the necessary steps to claim the entirety of assets seized to drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman, recently extradited to the United States.

On Wednesday Congressman Jorge Ramos Hernández, from the National Action Party (PAN), claimed Guzman’s fortune amounts to at least $16 billion and must be ceded to Mexico to restore the damages caused by the trafficker’s illicit activities.

“We are demanding that the federal government bring up the issue with President Trump so that [the U.S.] also covers this criminal’s extradition bill and so that the return of the total amount that corresponds to our country is guaranteed to the Mexican people,” said Ramos Hernandez.

He said that according to federal law, confiscated assets must be distributed between the countries that participated in the capture. “And it is public knowledge – he said – that in this case [Guzman] was captured thanks to actions entirely in the hands of the Mexican government and [was a result of] a total autonomous action.”

Back in June, Excelsior newspaper reported that courts in New York and Illinois were claiming a total of $21.6 billion to cover damages stemming from the Sinaloa’s cartel drug trafficking.
 1.8 billion.

The U.S. and Mexico reportedly have been negotiating Guzman’s assets since June 2016.
According to the paper’s sources, a judge in the Eastern District of New York had ordered the confiscation of at least $14 billion in cash from the trafficking of more than 465 tons of cocaine into the U.S. between September 1999 and February 2014.

In the Northern District of Illinois, court papers allege the cartel’s profit between 1990 and 2009 was at least $5.8 billion, while Chicago’s FBI division says U.S. authorities are claiming another $1.8 billion

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http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/01/26/el-chapo-guzmans-16b-in-assets-belong-to-mexico-congressman-claims.html

[Formerly Once-Ler]

My bank called and asked if I had my loan payment.  I told them "no, but Mexico will be paying it at a later date."

[DCPatriot]

Is Trump still winning?

Et tu, @mystery-ak   

 

[Frank Cannon]

Et tu, @mystery-ak   

 

We're at a marker Donny threw down telling us he would have things done. We have nothing done and he shows no interest in doing them.

[edpc]

Jeez dude, get a grip. That is a very strange thing to be 'happy' about.

I mean, unless you are a pro open borders Liberal Democrat, that is.

The fact anyone is surprised about Weathervane Donny's shifting positions is what's funny.  Not everyone who points it out is a USA hating, Bildeberger, Rothschild, NWO, globalist liberal.

[DCPatriot]

We're at a marker Donny threw down telling us he would have things done. We have nothing done and he shows no interest in doing them.

I'd honor that "marker" too.

Take the $1 TRILLION earmarked for the "Infastructure" and built the wall with it.

....for "The Wall" is, after all, 'Infastructure'.

....and flip everybody the bird on the way out the door.

[libertybele]

I'd honor that "marker" too.

Take the $1 TRILLION earmarked for the "Infastructure" and built the wall with it.

....for "The Wall" is, after all, 'Infastructure'.

....and flip everybody the bird on the way out the door.

IMHO, and what I've been saying for awhile, my hunch is he plans to build a superhighway (better known as the NAFTA superhighway) between Mexico and Canada -- he will have renegotiated trade, boosted the economy and put people back to work and he has $1 trillion dollars to work with.  The promise of the 'wall' simply got him elected.

[DCPatriot]

IMHO, and what I've been saying for awhile, my hunch is he plans to build a superhighway (better known as the NAFTA superhighway) between Mexico and Canada -- he will have renegotiated trade, boosted the economy and put people back to work and he has $1 trillion dollars to work with.  The promise of the 'wall' simply got him elected.

Oy vey!   

[libertybele]

Oy vey!   

D.C. I knew that was going to be your reaction ... but ... what IF I'm right?  It would line his pockets, his cronies pockets, gets the American economy booming again ... it simply fits Trump.   

[DCPatriot]

D.C. I knew that was going to be your reaction ... but ... what IF I'm right?  It would line his pockets, his cronies pockets, gets the American economy booming again ... it simply fits Trump.   

I understand how you've arrived at this...by assigning your preconceived motives.

You obviously don't know 'Trump', the man, vs. Trump, the businessman.

Above all else, President Trump wants to be loved.  He...and I...honestly believe that he can, at the very least, get this Baby turned around.   I believe he takes great pride in being able to say "I TOLD YOU SO!"

....just like we see everyday here on the forum. 

So yes, he knows that in order to keep his base, he has to find a way to physically start building this thing...BEFORE 2018!

He got the Trillion dollars from Congress for his Infrastructure Bill.

The Border Wall is Infrastructure.

End of discussion, really.   (between Trump and whomever)

[DCPatriot]

In fact, I'm confident his base would applaud him.

The head of the Teamster's?     Not so much.   

[Sanguine]

I understand how you've arrived at this...by assigning your preconceived motives.

You obviously don't know 'Trump', the man, vs. Trump, the businessman.

Above all else, President Trump wants to be loved.  He...and I...honestly believe that he can, at the very least, get this Baby turned around.   I believe he takes great pride in being able to say "I TOLD YOU SO!"

....just like we see everyday here on the forum. 

So yes, he knows that in order to keep his base, he has to find a way to physically start building this thing...BEFORE 2018!

He got the Trillion dollars from Congress for his Infrastructure Bill.

The Border Wall is Infrastructure.

End of discussion, really.   (between Trump and whomever)

DC, in all fairness, all we have so far is promises.  Until he does actually "get this baby turned around" there is no there there.   I do hope that he keeps his promises and will support his doing so.