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My best guess is that; or my discernment, hunch, feeling in my gut or  spirit is ...

This is  mostly a spoiled brat banty rooster posturing for ego & effect. It will die back down with no big trauma
2 (20%)
It may evolve into some limited military slap-downs but I don't expect a full scale nuclear exchange between the major powers.
5 (50%)
There may be some limited nukes lit off in the region but I don't expect WW III
1 (10%)
There may be a nuke lobbed on a West Coast USA population center from a NK sub but cooler heads will avoid a wide-spred global exchange.
0 (0%)
There will be a full scale global nuke exchange engulfing us in WW III--maybe before the end of 2017
2 (20%)

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This morning I  put some of my Kindles inside their military grade metallic EMP proof envelopes. Ditto their solar charger.
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Some sources are claiming WW III festivities will be lit off 13 May. Others before the end of spring. Others around Sept 2017 and others before the end of 2017.
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Certainly the oligarchy has been setting up depopulating WW III to rearrange the geo-political landscape for decades. They will have to light it off at some point or blunt their desired cruel and genocidal effects.
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In any case, I'm very curious how our members think and feel about such potentials.
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May God be with all of good heart toward Him and toward others. May HE delay the festivities as long as possible.
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The last one copy and pasted fine. This one did not. I didn't change anything  in between. Sheesh. Sigh.

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I do suspect that this specific period, sequence of posturing etc. MAY die down somewhat . . . and seem to mostly go away.

However, I believe the oligarchy is keeping deranged fat boy around as a volitile stick with which to stir the global pot and keep the planet wound  up in anxieties & fears . . . and . . . probably to use as tender in starting a bigger fire.
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Trump's mouth/actions will set off WWIII.  I knew that when he started campaigning.

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Trump's mouth/actions will set off WWIII.  I knew that when he started campaigning.

As opposed to Shrillery who long ago said she would attack Iran?

And who is a rage-aholic-supremely arrogant-beyond-peer bwitch?

Or are you saying that "knowing"was a  supernatural 'knowing' in your spirit? And what % right are those, on average, in your life?
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Trump's mouth has to be 300-500% LESS volitile and irrational than Shrillery's.
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imho, IF Trump lights off WWIII by any means ... it merely proves he was set-up to do just that by the Oligarchy. They insist on being rather IN !CONTROL! of all such major events.
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Don't change the subject by bringing up Clinton.  We are talking about Trump.  My 25+ years evaluating human behavior leads me to believe he will start a war, just like I said.  We are already in the danger zone of war since he took office.  It will get worse.  I won't argue about it - it is what it is.   

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Don't change the subject by bringing up Clinton.  We are talking about Trump.  My 25+ years evaluating human behavior leads me to believe he will start a war, just like I said.  We are already in the danger zone of war since he took office.  It will get worse.  I won't argue about it - it is what it is.

Do you have any professional concerns about the mental health of North Korea's leader?

Or are you just obsessed over Trump?
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Don't change the subject by bringing up Clinton.  We are talking about Trump.  My 25+ years evaluating human behavior leads me to believe he will start a war, just like I said.  We are already in the danger zone of war since he took office.  It will get worse.  I won't argue about it - it is what it is.

Right, because sane Presidents like the Bush's didn't get us into random wars with no end and no real purpose. Crazy Donny going after a nuclear power that is threatening to blow up Japan, S Korea and Seattle is what is really outrageous. Thanks for your expert opinion you ... {snip}*.


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Do you have any professional concerns about the mental health of North Korea's leader?
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Absolutely there is concern about Kim Jung-un.  Kim Jong-un would push the nuclear button without caring about how many he killed.  That is why it is so dangerous for Trump to shoot off his mouth.  He has already put us in a more dangerous situation than we were in before he took office. 

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Absolutely there is concern about Kim Jung-un.  Kim Jong-un would push the nuclear button without caring about how many he killed.  That is why it is so dangerous for Trump to shoot off his mouth.  He has already put us in a more dangerous situation than we were in before he took office.

The TRUTH is the North Korean guy shot off his missiles, and made his threats long, long before Trump arrived.

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Don't change the subject by bringing up Clinton.  We are talking about Trump.  My 25+ years evaluating human behavior leads me to believe he will start a war, just like I said.  We are already in the danger zone of war since he took office.  It will get worse.  I won't argue about it - it is what it is.   

1. Uhhhhhhhhhhhh . . . Given the last SElection . . . and your bone-marrow hostility to Trump, I know of no balanced, rational way to discuss Trump's stuff without comparing it to the only alternative presented--i.e. Shrillery. You are certainly welcome to ignore such comments on my part. I just consider them essential for a balanced perspective.

2. The fact remains that Shrillery is far more off her rocker; far more violent (witness books documenting her rages, throwing objects etc.); Benghazi; the list of folks murdered in her/their behalf; etc. etc. etc. Therefore, ranting about Trump's carp is, in large measure, more or less moot to absurd AT LEAST BECAUSE the only alternative would have been MUCH WORSE, regardless of how bad Trump turns out to be.

3. A good part of me wonders if you are honest with the gal in your mirror, if you are more than a little surprised at how Trump has mellowed and how reasonable, perceptive, wise many of his public pronouncements have been . . . as well as how wise some of his behind the scenes international doings have been. Or, perhaps your hostility is soooo extreme against him that you have not been able to perceive such qualities in his doings due to your intense biases about him.

3.1 My impressions from some of your earlier pronouncements on Trump were that you expected  him to be and land the nation and planet into a horrendous  pile of horse biscuits well before now. I hope you aren't disappointed that such has not yet come true.

4. I don't expect him to be other than wiser and generally more reasonable. I think you negate, discount, dismiss or ignore subtle to not-so-subtle behavioral etc. evidence that could otherwise moderate your hostility to him re his problems/ character/ personality. He seems to have been somewhat of a fast learner on the job.

4.1 And, his daughter, wife and son-in-law seem to be having a redemptive influence on him. Given your earliest assessments--if they were as true as you insisted, such influences would not have scratched his surface, meaningfully, significantly, if at all.

5. It still may well be that the oligarchy will put him in a series of CATCH-22's where the only thing he can possibly do is fail--either as President or as protector of our freedoms, etc. etc. etc. I'm just glad he'll likely be in the role vs Shrillery. Her responses in a CATCH-22 desperate situation would be a LOT MORE DESTRUCTIVE than the worst Trump is likely to do.

6. He is one cool negotiator. He's demonstrated that repeatedly already in his term. We shall see how much of a load the thing with China vis a vis NK can bear--but he's sure done tons more good than the Kenyan imposter could have even imagined doing--EVEN IF he had wanted to do the USA good, which, of course, he didn't.

7. We are in far from an ideal world/reality. And he is certainly far from an ideal philosopher/king, in any Platonic sense. However, I'm increasingly impressed with his performance vs the  rocks and stones of his detractors.

8. I'm beginning to believe some of the Christian prophetic sources who claim he is an authentic Christian that will end up doing the Nation great good just before the darkness descends en route to the Great Tribulation. Certainly standing up for Christians and Christianity is 180 degrees opposite what OThuga did and what Shrillery would have done. I as a Christian am greatly thankful for that. I thought it was a wonderful thing that he got the Christians released from the Egyptian prison at his initiative.

9. I don't think there's a thing I can say that will moderate your hostility toward Trump as that hostile perspective seems to be out of touch with objective facts, at some point. However, I believe that eternity will show that he did a lot more good than you are remotely willing to give him credit for.

10. Regardless . . . we are in for an E-Ticket ride the next several months to several years whether God makes Trump an instant perfect saint, or not. The realities on the global stage have been methodically crafted from hell to be increasingly horrendous. The Bible is clear about the basic script. And Trump does not have and will not have the power to change the basic script.

10.1, imho, the most he can possibly do--even with God's persistent help--is to delay the full court press rush to hell on earth in all our neighborhoods and lives. But such delays allowing more to be introduced to Yeshua, before the darkness descends, are well worth encouraging and praying for.



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The TRUTH is the North Korean guy shot off his missiles, and made his threats long, long before Trump arrived.

INDEED. I find it more than a lot incongruous to assert that Trump put us in far worse/more danger.

No.

An almost impossible set of contingencies landed in his lap. We can say, no doubt, by design of the oligarchy or satan or whatever such--which is likely plenty true. Regardless, SO FAR, He's been more or less masterful, wise, and extremely rational in his handling of it. That could change any minute.

However, I believe the research is clear . . . past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior . . . and in terms of negotiating . . . we could be in a LOT worse hands than Trump's. Witness the latest insider book on Shrillery and her campaign.

A lot of people seem to be shockingly ignorant of Trump's handling of "the little  people" who cross his path--PARTICULARLY compared to  Shrillery's routine trashing of them as well as many of her peers.

Trump repeatedly has shown a record of compassion, wisdom, caring, supportive helpfulness etc. and usually without any fanfare or publicity, when at all workable. Those narratives, true stories are available even if the MSM manages to keep them out of their pages almost wholesale.

I think it is highly likely that OThuga would have merely perpetuated his SOP of appeasement and giving our enemies benefits, advancements, treasure and nuclear weapons help.

I think it is highly likely that Shrillery would be up to  her pointed witches hat in  knee-jerk, impulsive, rage-based irrational responses flailing about as she so chronically does in almost any situation.
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T-Rex Heads To U.N. Friday to Discuss North Korea – The Building Approach the Media Ignores…

Posted on April 24, 2017   by sundance

♦Last week Vice President Mike Pence visited Japan, China, South Korea, Indonesia and Australia. One of the primary topics was North Korea.

♦Yesterday (April 23rd), President Trump followed up on Pence’s visit with personal phone calls to China’s President Xi Jinping and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe; again, the topic was North Korea:

“The two leaders reaffirmed the urgency of the threat posed by North Korea’s missile and nuclear programs, and committed to strengthen coordination in achieving the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.” (link)

♦Today (April 24th), U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley brings the U.N. Security Council to the White House for lunch with President Trump. The President spoke of the need for the U.N. to fulfill its original charter.

♦On Wednesday (April 26th), President Trump has invited all U.S. Senators to the White House for a classified briefing on North Korea.

♦On Friday (April 28th), U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson will be traveling to the U.N. to speak to the Security Council personally:

{..snip..}

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/04/24/t-rex-heads-to-u-n-friday-to-discuss-north-korea-the-building-approach-the-media-ignores/
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Looks to me like he's earnestly hard at work doing for the  USA and her people one of the things he does best--negotiate. May God bless and protect him, his life, his work, his family. Amen.

Thanks for this post.


T-Rex Heads To U.N. Friday to Discuss North Korea – The Building Approach the Media Ignores…

Posted on April 24, 2017   by sundance

♦Last week Vice President Mike Pence visited Japan, China, South Korea, Indonesia and Australia. One of the primary topics was North Korea.

♦Yesterday (April 23rd), President Trump followed up on Pence’s visit with personal phone calls to China’s President Xi Jinping and Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe; again, the topic was North Korea:

“The two leaders reaffirmed the urgency of the threat posed by North Korea’s missile and nuclear programs, and committed to strengthen coordination in achieving the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.” (link)

♦Today (April 24th), U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley brings the U.N. Security Council to the White House for lunch with President Trump. The President spoke of the need for the U.N. to fulfill its original charter.

♦On Wednesday (April 26th), President Trump has invited all U.S. Senators to the White House for a classified briefing on North Korea.

♦On Friday (April 28th), U.S. Secretary of State Rex Tillerson will be traveling to the U.N. to speak to the Security Council personally:

{..snip..}

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/04/24/t-rex-heads-to-u-n-friday-to-discuss-north-korea-the-building-approach-the-media-ignores/
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Maybe because it's 4 am and I just woke up with a huge headache and leg pain ( I think it's going to rain).

But if a bomb drops I hope I'm at ground zero. To survive with radiation burns and misery....no thank you.

I do pray that those bombs are never ever used ever again. People are going to die- but I wish we would all die in our beds at a very old age . No cancer, no dementia, just go to sleep one night in our 90s or 100s and not wake up. Or wake up in Heaven. At least I know all the people here will wind up there. :)
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Maybe because it's 4 am and I just woke up with a huge headache and leg pain ( I think it's going to rain).

But if a bomb drops I hope I'm at ground zero. To survive with radiation burns and misery....no thank you.

I do pray that those bombs are never ever used ever again. People are going to die- but I wish we would all die in our beds at a very old age . No cancer, no dementia, just go to sleep one night in our 90s or 100s and not wake up. Or wake up in Heaven. At least I know all the people here will wind up there. :)

INDEED

I hope you're right . . . about those here & Heaven.

A few folks have had visions/visitations with Yeshua who told them that about 2% of those who thought they were "Christians" will make Heaven . . . the others were going through religious rituals and motions without having a heart relationship/intimacy with Him. A very sobering thought.
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It's been awhile since this thread was updated.

I will tell You all ten years ago Thanksgiving I lost both kidneys

I was admitted to the hospital in the process of dying, and I actually died.

I don't know if it was heaven but it was the most feeling of peace and happiness I ever had. I saw a bright ligh blue sky and my grandmother, holding my childhood teddy bear.

I didn't want to leave it was so wonderful talking to her and feeling At peace.

I cried when I woke up and back in my body wracked in pain.

What ever happens. We contrite our individual destinies. It's up to us to get as much out of lie as we can while we are on this big blue. Marble,

If WW III starts, and I become toast I'm fine with that, I'm praying for the children.
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I hope you're right . . . about those here & Heaven.

A few folks have had visions/visitations with Yeshua who told them that about 2% of those who thought they were "Christians" will make Heaven . . . the others were going through religious rituals and motions without having a heart relationship/intimacy with Him. A very sobering thought.

Exactly....knowing Christ and knowing about Christ are 2 different things.  Head knowledge without heart knowledge.....

Very sad.........

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Maybe because it's 4 am and I just woke up with a huge headache and leg pain ( I think it's going to rain).

But if a bomb drops I hope I'm at ground zero. To survive with radiation burns and misery....no thank you.

I do pray that those bombs are never ever used ever again. People are going to die- but I wish we would all die in our beds at a very old age . No cancer, no dementia, just go to sleep one night in our 90s or 100s and not wake up. Or wake up in Heaven. At least I know all the people here will wind up there. :)

If you want to be at ground zero....come visit my fair town...lol.  We won't feel a thing.......

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If you want to be at ground zero....come visit my fair town...lol.  We won't feel a thing.......

I'm honored but I still have some things on my bucket list to do.

One is see the USA and I've never been to your state, @mrpotatohead

I hear it's very pretty
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