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Re: Activist Says Having ‘Genital Preferences’ In Dating Is Transphobic
« Reply #50 on: April 25, 2017, 04:40:06 pm »
No one here but you has inferred that.

There will never be a law forcing straight people to date or have sex with a gay person.

 The tranny in the video is .0001% of the population and the only people who even read about  this crap is scaremonger Christians on obscure internet sites hand wringing and beating their breast over something that will never affect them or anyone else.

How @Smokin Joe   correlated a tranny talking about transphobic out in the video to having his relative molested is zero correlation that it is laughable and I  never said homosexual peophilia does not happen-it does not  have any relevance to the article to begin with.

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Re: Activist Says Having ‘Genital Preferences’ In Dating Is Transphobic
« Reply #51 on: April 25, 2017, 04:48:35 pm »
I have a similar situation, with a similar outcome... Unfortunately, my sonofabitch got committed instead of going downtown, where I have friends. I can only hope he acts up enough to get sent to the prison ward at this point.  :shrug:

The boy in question was 6

The gay brother of my uncle (by marriage) is in prison for child molesting. He was one of only a couple we all knew was gay when we were in high school. He wasn't "out" but it was obvious.

The other obvious gay from my childhood is still a friend but he warns people not to allow gays to be alone with their kids. He doesn't even allow his own grandkids to stay at his house because of gay friends coming and going. He says he's not a pedophile but says the tendency is extraordinarily high among gays.

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Re: Activist Says Having ‘Genital Preferences’ In Dating Is Transphobic
« Reply #52 on: April 25, 2017, 05:34:41 pm »
The guy is way too STUPID to know this, but what he is advocating would force gay men to have sex with icky, ookie, vaginas, and it would force lesbians to have sex with hairy, stinky, knuckle dragging penises.
If ever there was a, be careful what you wish for, moment, this would be it.
You're presupposing that a liberal will be thinking long term about the consequences of their words/actions. To be a liberal is to live emotionally in the moment never thinking about what will happen down the road because of what they do now.

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Re: Activist Says Having ‘Genital Preferences’ In Dating Is Transphobic
« Reply #53 on: April 25, 2017, 05:48:56 pm »
Let me tell you about my first experience meeting a gay person (or bi, don't really know what he was other than pervert). Senior in HS, over 18 barely. I was the band drum major, but having lived a sheltered life I barely even knew what a fag was.

Band director invites me over to his house for some reason. Don't remember why (it was a long time ago), maybe to design my uniform or something. I liked him, thought he was a cool fellow out of college a few years and he was pretty hip. I loved band too. But that all changed that day...

He invited me over and had the tv off but vcr loaded with some porn video. I had never seen porn other than perhap a playboy picture or something. He turned it on (or already had it playing, don't remember).. I was stunned, that was something taboo, but I didn't want to seem a pud but it embarrassed the heck out of me. This lady on video was doing a sexual act on the fellow and my teacher said "you know, best one I ever had was from a guy"....

It scared the hell out of me. I excused myself and left embarrassed but never told a soul for 20+ years.

Then one day it dawned on me that my silence put other kids in danger. This person that was suppose to be in a position of authority was actually indoctrinating other kids of just legal age or on the borderline. I figured I had waited too long, but the more I thought about it the more it angered me. So I got to hunting to see if I could find this pervert. I couldn't, seems he didn't leave an internet trail to google. It was only years later I saw he was teaching at some school 3 or 4 hundred miles away from where he was when I knew him. I managed to find the principle and wrote that he needed to be watched. I don't know if it did any good, but I think if I ever saw him in person I would slug the crap out of him.

Growing up I missed a father figure, mom was one tough cookie, but I was too embarrassed to mention it to her. I could of used a dad at that time though.

My story and I tell my kids to this day, if anyone even mentions sex to them in any fashion I want to know. I even check up at church functions to see if anyone is acting strange, I trust noone to this day. I will be the dad if my kids ever need me. I would kill for them.

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I went to Catholic grade and high schools for twelve years. This is fifty-sixty years ago.  While I was in grade school one of the priests assigned to our parrish was very friendly with the boys.  I never liked the guy because he yelled at me for something (can't remember what it was.)
Eventually he left the parrish only to be transferred to a parrish close to mine.  About twenty years later some male students from the other grade school accused him of sexual abuse.  He was convicted and spent some time in prison.
After the news broke, it was actually on local tv as well,  I told my mother about Father X and how he had abused boys.
My mother looked at me and said everybody (meaning adults) knew he was weird and a possible homosexual.
I was shocked. That means many of those adults, a number who had children in school at the time he was there, knew he was a homosexual but didn't do anything. 
And that is why the Catholic Church has had so many problems and priests under suspicion of being perverts despite the great majority of priests not being perverts.  Because the people in charge way back when failed to take proper measures against abusive priests, they're paying the penalty now. Many non-Catholics assume that most or all priests are homosexuals.  They're not....I knew a high school priest who left the priesthood and married a woman.
But by failing to kick out the homosexual priests back then the Church is now held in disrepute.

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Re: Activist Says Having ‘Genital Preferences’ In Dating Is Transphobic
« Reply #54 on: April 25, 2017, 05:55:47 pm »
I wonder how many kids could tell the same, or similar story about a teacher, or some other adult in their lives, who tried to seduce them ("groom" them), or succeeded in abusing them, but it never got reported. 

Your situation (never telling anyone) is understandable because how could you tell others about what happened and hope to be believed - especially a few years ago.   How many other pedophiles and perverts are out there going unreported?

Our kids' Jr High band director seduced young boys in his bands for years by showing them porn in his office.  I was just thankful that he never approached our two sons (or daughters for that matter).

He ended up getting a 10 year prison sentence, but I think the number of male teachers preying on boys is extremely underreported because it's even a greater stigma for a boy to be abused than for a girl, and the NAMBLA perverts know that.

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What is it about band directors? I've seemed to have read a number of stories in the media recently about male band directors messing around with students. I have no idea if the number of b-directors is higher than the numbers of other teachers, I'm just reporting what I've read lately.

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« Reply #55 on: April 25, 2017, 06:19:14 pm »
What is it about band directors? I've seemed to have read a number of stories in the media recently about male band directors messing around with students. I have no idea if the number of b-directors is higher than the numbers of other teachers, I'm just reporting what I've read lately.

That would be an interesting stat to research.  It could just be that more get caught because they have a lot of one on one, or one on a few time with students with lessons and ensemble practices, so they have more time and opportunity to live out their sick fantasies.

The band directors I had were straight as arrows, as were the other band directors in my kids' schools, but this guy was a pervert and a predator.  I'm glad he got caught eventually, but I'm sure the shame that young boys have when they are molested (as is evidenced in how long it took for Catholic boys to report those errant priests) is part of the problem.

They desperately don't want anyone to think that THEY are homosexual, so the abuse is easier to hide.
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« Reply #56 on: April 25, 2017, 07:45:22 pm »
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the only people who even read about  this crap is scaremonger Christians on obscure internet sites hand wringing and beating their breast over something that will never affect them or anyone else.
Only you are finding anyone hand wringing and breast beating. The rest of us are just talking to one another.
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Re: Activist Says Having ‘Genital Preferences’ In Dating Is Transphobic
« Reply #57 on: April 25, 2017, 10:07:09 pm »
Going back to the OP for a second - now I'm confused.

Normally my response to Riley Dennis would be "screw you" but that's not really appropriate in this case ....
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« Reply #58 on: April 25, 2017, 10:13:16 pm »
I wonder how many kids could tell the same, or similar story about a teacher, or some other adult in their lives, who tried to seduce them ("groom" them), or succeeded in abusing them, but it never got reported. 

Your situation (never telling anyone) is understandable because how could you tell others about what happened and hope to be believed - especially a few years ago.   How many other pedophiles and perverts are out there going unreported?

Our kids' Jr High band director seduced young boys in his bands for years by showing them porn in his office.  I was just thankful that he never approached our two sons (or daughters for that matter).

He ended up getting a 10 year prison sentence, but I think the number of male teachers preying on boys is extremely underreported because it's even a greater stigma for a boy to be abused than for a girl, and the NAMBLA perverts know that.

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The other factor is the sense of being violated, the shame inherent in being a victim, and the fear of the opinions of classmates and the community if news of the event got out.
At that age, especially, the opinions of your peer group are incredibly important to self-esteem, self-respect, and your place, socially, within your age group. If 'somebody' finds out, you would live in fear of the story spreading, so things go unreported, in the hope they will just go away.

I must commend the local police for their discretion in dealing with the event my grandson narrowly escaped--he was seriously hit on, but managed to get away, along with two of his friends-- and the commend the prosecutor and the court for dealing with it. As I told the police officer (who already had the perp in custody) "I have a good idea how those fellows are treated in prison, and I'll let you handle it." That way he knew he didn't have to defend against me, and my grandson knew I wasn't going to go to prison for killing someone.
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« Reply #59 on: April 25, 2017, 10:14:24 pm »
Going back to the OP for a second - now I'm confused.

Normally my response to Riley Dennis would be "screw you" but that's not really appropriate in this case ....
Yeah, you have to be careful what you say to who nowadays. They might get excited at the prospect.
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Re: Activist Says Having ‘Genital Preferences’ In Dating Is Transphobic
« Reply #60 on: April 25, 2017, 10:25:01 pm »
There will never be a law forcing straight people to date or have sex with a gay person.

 The tranny in the video is .0001% of the population and the only people who even read about  this crap is scaremonger Christians on obscure internet sites hand wringing and beating their breast over something that will never affect them or anyone else.

How @Smokin Joe   correlated a tranny talking about transphobic out in the video to having his relative molested is zero correlation that it is laughable and I  never said homosexual peophilia does not happen-it does not  have any relevance to the article to begin with.

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My comment was in response to your remark that :
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No gay is ever going to make you date them or force you to have sex with them. These idiots are the outer outer fringe.
You took the discussion in that direction, and I was providing an example in rebuttal to your remark. Perfectly logical.
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Re: Activist Says Having ‘Genital Preferences’ In Dating Is Transphobic
« Reply #61 on: April 25, 2017, 10:27:39 pm »
Really??   Talking about stretching things. 

Men rape women..does that mean any man who ask a woman out is going to rape her?
At the point where he backs the kid against the wall and puts his hand down the kid's pants, it has gone beyond 'asking someone out'.
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« Reply #62 on: April 25, 2017, 10:29:33 pm »
My comment was in response to your remark that : You took the discussion in that direction, and I was providing an example in rebuttal to your remark. Perfectly logical.

The video is about dating not sexual assault

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« Reply #63 on: April 25, 2017, 10:30:59 pm »
The video is about dating not sexual assault

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Read what I just wrote. I was responding to your comment, not the video.
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« Reply #64 on: April 25, 2017, 10:32:16 pm »
At the point where he backs the kid against the wall and puts his hand down the kid's pants, it has gone beyond 'asking someone out'.

Again the video was about relationships and asking someone out who is not gay. Why you brought sexual assault of kids on it is beyond me.

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« Reply #65 on: April 25, 2017, 10:38:13 pm »
Read what I just wrote. I was responding to your comment, not the video.

Yes, I wrote this "No gay is ever going to make you date them or force you to have sex with them. These idiots are the outer outer fringe" and was written in the context of the video of two adults and one tranny thinking about asking out a straight person. .


Where you come up with sexual assault of kids is beyond me.  Your comment is the equivealant of a thread asking about what type of gun to purvhase and someone pipes in "A gun killed my 5 year old"

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« Reply #66 on: April 25, 2017, 10:59:01 pm »
Here is your comment, in its entirety.

No gay is ever going to make you date them or force you to have sex with them. These idiots are the outer outer fringe.

If anyone's comment took the thread off topic, that did it. No reference to video, just a comment. I replied to your bullshit comment, and provided an example. You keep calling me out for being off topic, but you took the topic in that direction with your remark. It is not up to us to read your mind (Thank God!) and nuance your comments, just read what is there. I did, and i responded, and I was not the only one.

Your remark was, on its face indefensible. Quit digging.
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Re: Activist Says Having ‘Genital Preferences’ In Dating Is Transphobic
« Reply #67 on: April 25, 2017, 11:00:30 pm »
The other factor is the sense of being violated, the shame inherent in being a victim, and the fear of the opinions of classmates and the community if news of the event got out.
At that age, especially, the opinions of your peer group are incredibly important to self-esteem, self-respect, and your place, socially, within your age group. If 'somebody' finds out, you would live in fear of the story spreading, so things go unreported, in the hope they will just go away.

I must commend the local police for their discretion in dealing with the event my grandson narrowly escaped--he was seriously hit on, but managed to get away, along with two of his friends-- and the commend the prosecutor and the court for dealing with it. As I told the police officer (who already had the perp in custody) "I have a good idea how those fellows are treated in prison, and I'll let you handle it." That way he knew he didn't have to defend against me, and my grandson knew I wasn't going to go to prison for killing someone.

I tell you, if anyone assaulted my kids or grandkids, it would be all I could do not to do them serious bodily harm (in places where harm is most harmful). 

I think the police and courts are working hard to improve their response to sexual assault, especially on children.  It's very hard, even for adults to deal with the repercussions of being a victim of a deviant's behavior, but that has to be magnified exponentially for children......... especially those in Middle School or above.

I'm glad your grandson is getting justice for what happened to him.  Is he getting any counseling?  That may help him deal with all the ugliness....
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Re: Activist Says Having ‘Genital Preferences’ In Dating Is Transphobic
« Reply #68 on: April 25, 2017, 11:07:01 pm »

The other obvious gay from my childhood is still a friend but he warns people not to allow gays to be alone with their kids. He doesn't even allow his own grandkids to stay at his house because of gay friends coming and going. He says he's not a pedophile but says the tendency is extraordinarily high among gays.


Once you have made the jump to unnatural sex,  all the other taboo barriers become smaller.


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« Reply #69 on: April 25, 2017, 11:08:22 pm »
Here is your comment, in its entirety.

If anyone's comment took the thread off topic, that did it. No reference to video, just a comment. I replied to your bullshit comment, and provided an example. You keep calling me out for being off topic, but you took the topic in that direction with your remark. It is not up to us to read your mind (Thank God!) and nuance your comments, just read what is there. I did, and i responded, and I was not the only one.

Your remark was, on its face indefensible. Quit digging.

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The problem is that the conclusion results in 'you must have sex with me.' Which is essentially rape.

They are mindbending this stuff to the point where it's colliding into each other, and you are forcing the majority to bow to a tiny aristocratic minority. Basically, sexual feudalism.

And I love it. This is the stuff from the LGBTQSNAFUBAR crowd that makes people run from liberalism.





My only fault is I read it and replied to the wrong person.

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« Reply #70 on: April 25, 2017, 11:11:21 pm »
I tell you, if anyone assaulted my kids or grandkids, it would be all I could do not to do them serious bodily harm (in places where harm is most harmful). 

I think the police and courts are working hard to improve their response to sexual assault, especially on children.  It's very hard, even for adults to deal with the repercussions of being a victim of a deviant's behavior, but that has to be magnified exponentially for children......... especially those in Middle School or above.

I'm glad your grandson is getting justice for what happened to him.  Is he getting any counseling?  That may help him deal with all the ugliness....
It has been three years, now. There were three police officers between me and the door, and they had the perp in custody. He is lucky the police got there first, and all else aside, I suppose I am, too. I cannot envision a good outcome, otherwise.
At that moment, I could go through the police (3 counts of assault on a police officer, just to start) or I could give my attention to my grandson. I chose the latter, and told the nearest officer my reasoning in front of my grandson.
He has had some counseling, but the fact that he responded correctly to the event, we praised him for that, his peer group is unaware of it, and that I don't treat him any different, knowing full well what happened (he told me what went on), he doesn't seem to have any lingering effects. Pretty normal for his age group, and definitely likes girls....
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Re: Activist Says Having ‘Genital Preferences’ In Dating Is Transphobic
« Reply #71 on: April 25, 2017, 11:19:09 pm »
Again the video was about relationships and asking someone out who is not gay. Why you brought sexual assault of kids on it is beyond me.

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Why do you think Homosexuality is acceptable,  but think sex with minors is wrong?   


When you cross over into that world,  traditional ideas of right and wrong are broken.  Oh sure,  they will tell you that they don't believe in that,  but as someone posted above,  most gays know that their "tribe"  likes to molest children,  and see nothing wrong with it.


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Re: Activist Says Having ‘Genital Preferences’ In Dating Is Transphobic
« Reply #72 on: April 25, 2017, 11:24:46 pm »
It has been three years, now. There were three police officers between me and the door, and they had the perp in custody. He is lucky the police got there first, and all else aside, I suppose I am, too. I cannot envision a good outcome, otherwise.
At that moment, I could go through the police (3 counts of assault on a police officer, just to start) or I could give my attention to my grandson. I chose the latter, and told the nearest officer my reasoning in front of my grandson.
He has had some counseling, but the fact that he responded correctly to the event, we praised him for that, his peer group is unaware of it, and that I don't treat him any different, knowing full well what happened (he told me what went on), he doesn't seem to have any lingering effects. Pretty normal for his age group, and definitely likes girls....

Oh, that's good to hear, and a real credit to you and how you've handled it.

I'm sure it was an answer to your prayers.  I hope he continues to recover and completely return to normalcy.

Some kids, with less care, never get over it.....
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« Reply #73 on: April 25, 2017, 11:36:26 pm »
Oh, that's good to hear, and a real credit to you and how you've handled it.

I'm sure it was an answer to your prayers.  I hope he continues to recover and completely return to normalcy.

Some kids, with less care, never get over it.....
That he escaped before it got past the grope helps. He kept his wits about him, and that gave him the chance to get clear. I really don't like to think about what might have occurred if the perp had been able to proceed.
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Re: Activist Says Having ‘Genital Preferences’ In Dating Is Transphobic
« Reply #74 on: April 26, 2017, 03:01:44 am »
The other factor is the sense of being violated, the shame inherent in being a victim, and the fear of the opinions of classmates and the community if news of the event got out.
At that age, especially, the opinions of your peer group are incredibly important to self-esteem, self-respect, and your place, socially, within your age group. If 'somebody' finds out, you would live in fear of the story spreading, so things go unreported, in the hope they will just go away.

Yes it is funny how the mind plays out all these scenarios in such short fashion. Now I wonder about a previous drum major at my school that was a bright talented young lady at one time. It was rumored that my band director's (PB) friend was a lesbian band director at the neighboring school . One day PB came in to class with a scratched face and it was rumored she gave it to him in a dispute they had with a night out with friends drinking. I wonder if my band director introduced our previous young female drum major to his lesbian friend. She went from being a well rounded fun loving person to somewhat a downtrodden kid that acted like some reclusive Goth kid.

It just makes me wonder, how coordinated are these gay/bi/trans people to helping each other seduce other kids? I am beginning to think it goes deeper than imagined as some have pointed out and unfortunately it begins with good people remaining silent. I wish my parents had talked to me more about just how twisted this world was. Perhaps they never realized it themselves even though there is nothing new under the sun. 







 
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