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Proof: Redshirts Aren't Likeliest to Die
« on: April 13, 2017, 07:53:09 pm »
If they say so.......


 Good to be a 'redshirt'

Grime first focused on an age-old assertion: that crewmembers wearing red shirts in the original "Star Trek" series, which denote working in engineering or security, are far more likely to be killed off than any other shirt color.

That claim, in fact, is false — more "redshirts" died on-screen than any other crew type (10 gold-shirted, which are command personnel; eight blue-shirted, who are scientists; and 25 red-shirted, Grime said), but that calculation fails to take into account that there are far more redshirts on the ship to start with than any other crew type.

In other words, we're looking at the probability that you are a redshirt if you die (58 percent) — what we want to know is the probability that you die if you're a redshirt, Grime said.

Grime used the "Star Trek" technical manual to find out how many of each crew type there were, which painted a different picture: out of 239 redshirts, 25 died, which is 10 percent. Out of 55 goldshirts, 10 died, which is 18 percent! So you are more likely to die as a goldshirt, Grime said.

"There is some truth in the old 'Star Trek' myth if you look at security officers … 20 percent of security officers died," Grime added. "So I think the moral of the story is, if you're on the starship Enterprise and you want to survive, be a scientist." (Only 6 percent of the blue-shirted scientists died over the course of the show.)



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Re: Proof: Redshirts Aren't Likeliest to Die
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2017, 07:55:37 pm »
Fascinating.



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Re: Proof: Redshirts Aren't Likeliest to Die
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2017, 07:57:47 pm »
If you really want to know who's most likely to die in any given episode - look for who Kirk or Riker are knocking boots with.  :tongue2:
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Re: Proof: Redshirts Aren't Likeliest to Die
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2017, 08:00:31 pm »
Grime used the "Star Trek" technical manual to find out how many of each crew type there were, which painted a different picture: out of 239 redshirts, 25 died, which is 10 percent. Out of 55 goldshirts, 10 died, which is 18 percent! So you are more likely to die as a goldshirt, Grime said.

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Re: Proof: Redshirts Aren't Likeliest to Die
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2017, 08:02:05 pm »
@Hopalong Ginsberg ping

So much for John Scalzi's book, eh?
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Re: Proof: Redshirts Aren't Likeliest to Die
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2017, 08:02:28 pm »
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Re: Proof: Redshirts Aren't Likeliest to Die
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2017, 09:12:35 pm »
@Hopalong Ginsberg ping

So much for John Scalzi's book, eh?

Indeed.

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Re: Proof: Redshirts Aren't Likeliest to Die
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2017, 09:32:08 pm »
@Hopalong Ginsberg ping

So much for John Scalzi's book, eh?

Which one?

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Re: Proof: Redshirts Aren't Likeliest to Die
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Re: Proof: Redshirts Aren't Likeliest to Die
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2017, 10:34:43 pm »
Red shirts

Duh.  I'd forgotten that one.

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Re: Proof: Redshirts Aren't Likeliest to Die
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2017, 10:48:00 pm »
The author is missing the point. If 5 people beam down, and 3 of the 5 have a red shirt, at least 1 of the 3 is only minutes away from death.
When a red shirt looks at the duty roster and finds he is scheduled for an away mission, he writes his will, leaves messages for his family, and gives away all his stuff. Because there is a high probability that he ain't coming back.
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Re: Proof: Redshirts Aren't Likeliest to Die
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2017, 11:33:55 pm »
Which one?

The one where every sentence ends with, "he said," or, "she said."

Oh, wait.  That's ALL of them.  Never mind.
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Re: Proof: Redshirts Aren't Likeliest to Die
« Reply #13 on: April 14, 2017, 03:10:54 am »
Filed under: "People least likely to be on my party invite list."

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