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If he's using himself it certainly would explain his erratic behavior.

Sure would.

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out when this story gets out there.  My guess is that more people will start to think "you know, maybe he just should have done as asked", etc..  And while it shouldn't affect his ability to sue given that it's an old enough felony conviction that it would likely be excludable at trial, it makes him a much less attractive plaintiff for an attorney.

Like I said...offer the guy his medical bills and maybe a bit more, and that's it.  His behavior should not be rewarded.

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Thank you for this @EC. Interesting.

No prob. Wife's been a stewardess since '95. Not commented much on this as conditions of carriage are substantially different on this side of the pond and I didn't want to make mistakes.
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If he's using himself it certainly would explain his erratic behavior.

Hmmm...

If the AMA pulled his license, it will be interesting to find out who these so called patients were that were missing their appointment.
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Hmmm...

If the AMA pulled his license, it will be interesting to find out who these so called patients were that were missing their appointment.

He got it back (with restrictions) in 2015.
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Well this explains everything..


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Yep. My contention (and Northwest did this when I flew them), is that the issue of who had seats should have been settled before anyone boarded the aircraft. Waiting until people are on the plane and ready to go was just stupid on the part of airline personnel. There should be some software indicator to the person issuing boarding passes that they have reached the limit, or are approaching it.

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I've heard that United didn't have the right to remove him after he was seated.  I looked at United's contract of carriage, and it really doesn't specify either way.  However, the language used in the text always refers to "passengers denied boarding" because of overbooking, which implies that the bumping should have taken place before the doctor took his seat.

If it had been me, I'd have kept my butt right in that seat and made them remove me, then called a lawyer.


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Twitter is destroying United.

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What's funny is that Southwest Airlines is all over United's Twitter timeline, snatching up customers right and left.

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that is not the way it works.

Their goal is full planes. There are invariably no shows, and statistics are kept that give them ideas of how many there are.

When more show up than expected, they must deal with it by the rules of carriage.

This is in fact more complicated than you state.  Not rocket surgery (whatever that is) but sophisticated statistics.

LMAO!  Sophisticated statistics, eh?  Well... I guess that I'm just not sophisticated enough to appreciate the finer points of United's abilities to accomplish FUBAR status [rolling eyes].

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What's funny is that Southwest Airlines is all over United's Twitter timeline, snatching up customers right and left.

It is funny.  Hope to see more competition.  United reacted in a very glib way.
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The CEO made a ridiculously arrogant statement. Oligarchy is right. Did we give these dirtbags money after 9/11?

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LMAO!  Sophisticated statistics, eh?  Well... I guess that I'm just not sophisticated enough to appreciate the finer points of United's abilities to accomplish FUBAR status [rolling eyes].
rolling you eyes and pleading ignorance is so childish.

No matter how many time you do it, you will get zero effect.

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Re: Transportation Committee Dem Wants Hearing on United Airlines Incident
« Reply #191 on: April 11, 2017, 02:53:09 pm »
Uh, no.


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Re: Transportation Committee Dem Wants Hearing on United Airlines Incident
« Reply #192 on: April 11, 2017, 02:54:04 pm »
Yes, we need a hearing on why a convicted felon drug dealer acted like a jackass when asked to leave a plane.

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United Airlines really should stop getting customer service tips from Comcast.

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Turns out the guy, David Dao, has a dozen drug related raps and has had his medical license yanked by the AMA.

Which proves he is a doctor as said license has been reinstated. 
   
Perhaps it is time dig up dirt on the United CEO and his ENTIRE family.

Four out five of Dr Dao's five children surveyed are doctors!
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Perhaps it is time dig up dirt on the United CEO and his ENTIRE family.



Not to mention the flight crew.....



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Eminent domain has been used to build a great many roads in this country.  The people moved very often didn't like it, but should we not have those roads?

As long as the compensation is fair, and the rail line is considered a common carrier that the paying public has a legal right to use, it is something that is specifically authorized by the Constitution.

No different than a common carrier pipeline, or electrical utility.
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rolling you eyes and pleading ignorance is so childish.

No matter how many time you do it, you will get zero effect.

If you wish to appreciate statistical business modeling in its finest form, go visit a casino.

And you did not explain what rocket surgery is yet either.

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Do that on some loaded crude oil hauler pulling a pup and it's gonna get messy. Plenty of those in this neck of the woods.
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