Duped? Did Assad really commit Chemical Weapons attack?

[ABX]

Before the Syrian Army dropped bombs in Khan Sheikhoun on April 4th, an activist/journalist tweeted this in the early morning hours .....

....According to Google Translate, it reads:

    “Tomorrow, a media campaign will be launched to cover the intensity of the air raids on the countryside of Hama and the use of chlorine against civilians.”

This was tweeted a little after 3am in the morning of the 4th before the attack......

http://therightscoop.com/did-assad-really-commit-chemical-weapons-attack/

The journalist's account via Google Translate- https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2Fferaskaram01&edit-text=&act=url

Many interesting tweets on his page including one indicating someone was gassing Assad's forces, not the other way around.

[ABX]

Many interesting reports on his Facebook as well.
https://www.facebook.com/feraskaram100/posts/1442844249355858

[ABX]

[Cripplecreek]

I don't know and I'm not sure it makes any difference.

If he doesn't ISIS or some other "rebel" group has and will again.

[TomSea]

No, we planned it to benefit ISIS.
 

[TomSea]

Did Assad Really Help Build ISIS? An Examination of the Evidence
https://historyxisis.wordpress.com/2017/01/18/did-assad-really-help-build-isis-an-examination-of-the-evidence/

[INVAR]

Fits with what Jihadists have done traditionally in terms of creating photo-op moments to gin up global sympathy and condemnation of their enemies.

[truth_seeker]

[ABX]

Interesting downlink from his site. He posts from this site a lot which appears to be some news site for what is called the Pride Army or Army of Pride (I assume not gay pride) part of the Free Syrian Army. That may be an issue with translation, but overall, looks to be an ISIS media site.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Falazaarmy.com%2F&edit-text=&act=url

[Cripplecreek]

Fits with what Jihadists have done traditionally in terms of creating photo-op moments to gin up global sympathy and condemnation of their enemies.

Chem attack aside, there is and has been a lot of propaganda flowing out of there for a long time but we've suddenly decided to believe it.

One that I find particularly irritating is the supposedly 9 year old girl who is supposedly staying one step ahead of Assad forces yet manages to tweet daily in english with pics.

[ABX]

Speaking of propaganda. One of the images of dead children being  used was on his page back in December referencing Syria and on a Hamas twitter page at the same time referencing a 'toxic rocket attack' in December.

#حماه
مجزرة #عقيربات 100 شهيدا معظمهم من النساء والأطفال اضافة الى مايقارب 400 حالة إختناق جراء الغارات الجوية #الروسية تحمل صواريخ سامة pic.twitter.com/soVepR6DnJ

— ayham dalain (@Ayham814)

December 12, 2016

Translated:
Massacre of 100 martyrs, mostly women and children, adding to the approximately 400 State suffered from #الروسية toxic missile air strikes

At that, there are a lot of posts, tweets, and repeated images saying there have been 'toxic missile strikes'.

Either there are a lot of chemical attacks going on that we aren't hearing about or they have been trying to spread stories of it for a while.

[ABX]

Same children from a different angle (same clothing, etc) from another story claiming Sarin gas attack- in December.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fyakeram.blogspot.com%2F2016%2F12%2F35-300.html&edit-text=&act=url


Folks, we have been played.

[Cripplecreek]

Remember the stories out of Lebanon where the Jihadholes were having the media stage in a particular spot while the ambulance waited so the media could film it screaming by?

[INVAR]

Same children from a different angle (same clothing, etc) from another story claiming Sarin gas attack- in December.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fyakeram.blogspot.com%2F2016%2F12%2F35-300.html&edit-text=&act=url


Folks, we have been played.

I believe you may be absolutely correct.  And as discerned.

How quickly we fell into the trap.

Logically it made no sense for Assad to risk his status by having his army use WMDs on civvies.

[bigheadfred]

Same children from a different angle (same clothing, etc) from another story claiming Sarin gas attack- in December.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fyakeram.blogspot.com%2F2016%2F12%2F35-300.html&edit-text=&act=url


Folks, we have been played.

Fortunately I have been so busy playing with myself I missed this one. You guys have all the fun.

[Cripplecreek]

I believe you may be absolutely correct.  And as discerned.

How quickly we fell into the trap.

Logically it made no sense for Assad to risk his status by having his army use WMDs on civvies.

I see there is another story floating around here that says a doctor treating victims was a jihadi arrested for kidnapping journalists a while back.

[INVAR]

I see there is another story floating around here that says a doctor treating victims was a jihadi arrested for kidnapping journalists a while back.

I saw that story too. 

I proceed from the understanding that everything Obama did was to harm the US and lift up our enemies and especially Islam in the world.  Given that belief, the fact Obama wanted Assad gone in the first place has me automatically knee-jerking to oppose that action - despite how rotten the guy is.

The only benefits to the toppling of these quasi-secular M.E. dictators appears to go to Islamists of one massive extreme to another.

[endicom]

Same children from a different angle (same clothing, etc) from another story claiming Sarin gas attack- in December.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fyakeram.blogspot.com%2F2016%2F12%2F35-300.html&edit-text=&act=url


Folks, we have been played.

Our civilian and military intelligence services couldn't discern such a ruse? If so then some more swamps need draining.

[Smokin Joe]

Same children from a different angle (same clothing, etc) from another story claiming Sarin gas attack- in December.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fyakeram.blogspot.com%2F2016%2F12%2F35-300.html&edit-text=&act=url


Folks, we have been played.

Remember Green Helmet Guy? http://canadafreepress.com/article/green-helmet-guy-now-working-for-hamas

[DiogenesLamp]

Our civilian and military intelligence services couldn't discern such a ruse? If so then some more swamps need draining.

The minute I heard Paul Bremer's announcement that he was disbanding the Iraqi Army and prohibiting anyone who had ever been a member of the Bathe party from working in government,   that was the moment I realized much of our military "leadership"   were idiots at politics.   


Yes,  I believe our military people are stupid enough to fall for a phoney propaganda scheme. 

[INVAR]

Yes,  I believe our military people are stupid enough to fall for a phoney propaganda scheme.

Especially given that during the Obama regime, advancement and careers were forged via Social Justice adherence, rather than military or achievement merit.

[bigheadfred]

The minute I heard Paul Bremer's announcement that he was disbanding the Iraqi Army and prohibiting anyone who had ever been a member of the Bathe party from working in government,   that was the moment I realized much of our military "leadership"   were idiots at politics.   


Yes,  I believe our military people are stupid enough to fall for a phoney propaganda scheme.

Which would prove both the worthlessness of our so-called intelligence agencies and that they are entities unto themselves.

[TomSea]

Speaking of propaganda. One of the images of dead children being  used was on his page back in December referencing Syria and on a Hamas twitter page at the same time referencing a 'toxic rocket attack' in December.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="ar" dir="rtl">#حماه

مجزرة #عقيربات 100 شهيدا معظمهم من النساء والأطفال اضافة الى مايقارب 400 حالة إختناق جراء الغارات الجوية #الروسية تحمل صواريخ سامة pic.twitter.com/soVepR6DnJ</p>— ayham dalain (@Ayham814)

December 12, 2016

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Translated:
Massacre of 100 martyrs, mostly women and children, adding to the approximately 400 State suffered from #الروسية toxic missile air strikes

At that, there are a lot of posts, tweets, and repeated images saying there have been 'toxic missile strikes'.

Either there are a lot of chemical attacks going on that we aren't hearing about or they have been trying to spread stories of it for a while.

I'm not sure I have seen the picture above used in any articles I've read the past week. There are plenty of pictures of the victims of this last attack.

Additionally, it's interesting that that journalists tweets has many references to napalm.

[TomSea]

Same children from a different angle (same clothing, etc) from another story claiming Sarin gas attack- in December.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fyakeram.blogspot.com%2F2016%2F12%2F35-300.html&edit-text=&act=url


Folks, we have been played.

I don't see your picture in any of the stories I've read on the poison gas attack.

These weren't the photos Nikki Haley showed the UN.




One should produce an English language story where that photo was used. This is so confusing, it takes more time to straighten out the facts.

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Did everyone forget that the Russians and Syrians didn't deny that Sarin was used?  They just said it was that the planes destroyed a Sarin factory, and that it wasn't spread from the airplanes?

So to argue that "oh, the entire attack was fake and never happened at all" is just an invention of the internet.  All the parties actually agreed that Sarin was there, and that it killed people.