Trump Declares War on Freedom Caucus in New Tweet: ‘We Must Fight Them’

[XenaLee]

@XenaLee
  Wait a minute -- exactly who do you think voters voted "overwhelmingly" for in the last election?  It was clearly not the House Freedom Caucus, because there are only 30 or so members of it.  In fact, it would be more accurate to say that voters voted overwhelming not to put the House Freedom Caucus in charge.

Doesn't each member of Congress owe an obligation to fulfill the promises they made to the people who elected them?  Because if you're saying that the promises elected members of Congress made are "moot" because of how the majority voted, then all those HFC members should have abandoned all the promises they made to their constituents after Obama got elected.  I'll quote someone with whom you seem in general agreement:

@CatherineofAragon

I agree with @CatherineofAragon on that.

But under your logic of promises being made "moot" by an election, the HFC should abandon the promises they made prior to this election, and go with whatever Trump wants because he is the guy who got elected.  And if you go back and look at Trump's statements on health care during the election, I don't think a lot of conservatives would be happy about it.  As a matter of fact, Trump's statements about health care in particular were probably the single thing for which conservatives criticized him the most during the campaign.

Sigh..... you're making this harder and more complex than it is or needs to be.   Point is....

the voters voted overwhelmingly for those that promised to repeal ObamaCare.  Repeal.  That's what MOST of the voters wanted.  The GOP promised to repeal, not replace.  THAT promise is what got them put into power over all three branches.  It ain't the rocket surgery you're making it out to be.   

[bolobaby]

The reasons for opposition to the AHCA may have been different, but the result is the same - ObamaCare lives.

@Jazzhead

Ah. The same logic that brought us Trump. Anything but Hillary. Anything but Obamacare.

Except this time, we won.

We decided that we wouldn't swallow the turd sandwich the GOPe and Trump was trying to push on us. Well done. A victory for conservatism.

What is frickin' absolutely hysterical is that non-conservatives like you are claiming "it's over - we are 'stuck' with Obamacare." How quickly the milquetoasts forget that various versions of a repeal of Obamacare were voted on 50 times prior to this. This one didn't even make it to a vote, but there's no chance in hell that we might come up with a better bill and vote again? Or even twice? Or even 50 times?

Noooo... it's over because you milquetoasts want it to be.

Roll over conservatives. Play dead and eat your Obamacare veggies and like it.

You show your hand, Jazzhead. Whose side are you really on?

[Vulcan]

During the entire campaign I asked Trumpanzee after Trumpanzee the same question. 

"If you believe you can trust Trump, name one other liberal you can trust."

I must have asked that question 100 times and the only answer I ever received was "Harry Truman".

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Sigh..... you're making this harder and more complex than it is or needs to be.   Point is....the voters voted overwhelmingly for those that promised to repeal ObamaCare.

No they did not.  Where is your evidence for that?  What the voters actually voted for are the people who, right now, sit in Congress. 

Heck, more than half of the voters actually voted for Democrats who wanted to preserve/expand the entire thing.  A bunch more voted for Republicans who openly promised to preserve some of it.  I've posted pre-election statements by some Republicans saying exactly that, and voters elected them.  When voters elected a majority of Congress that promised to preserve at least some part of ObamaCare, your statement simply cannot be true.

And you didn't answer the question -- do you think individual members of Congress should vote in accordance with the promises they made to their constituents, or not?

[geronl]

The reasons for opposition to the AHCA may have been different, but the result is the same - ObamaCare lives.

Right, we should have just went along with renaming it and allowed Trump to declare victory. Because that is the only thing his salivating followers care about.

[ExFreeper]

[Victoria33]

Well this pisses me off!  Mr President attack the Dems they are your true enemies.

@mystery-ak

You say it pisses you off so that means you wouldn't do that and hurt yourself when you need their support to get your agenda passed.  So why does Trump do this? 

Remember, anyone who has a different opinion than Trump's, becomes his enemy forever.  It doesn't matter who they are, they are now his enemies.  Everything he does is personal to HIM.  He is only president for himself, not the country.  Recall the campaign, it was me, me, me, "I am great, only I can fix this."  He alone matters, he must have adoration from others and he will try to destroy anyone who doesn't praise him.  My opinion was/is, his mental disorder rules him.  I kept thinking, once president, surely he would stop shooting himself in the foot with tweets.  Well, now, he is shooting himself in the heart with tweets and no one can stop him doing that.  A reasonable, thinking person would not deliberately take action that would make him/her look nuts/crazy.  He is doing that so he has a mental problem, not capable of thinking rationally.

[Jazzhead]

@Jazzhead

Ah. The same logic that brought us Trump. Anything but Hillary. Anything but Obamacare.

Except this time, we won.

We decided that we wouldn't swallow the turd sandwich the GOPe and Trump was trying to push on us. Well done. A victory for conservatism.

What is frickin' absolutely hysterical is that non-conservatives like you are claiming "it's over - we are 'stuck' with Obamacare." How quickly the milquetoasts forget that various versions of a repeal of Obamacare were voted on 50 times prior to this. This one didn't even make it to a vote, but there's no chance in hell that we might come up with a better bill and vote again? Or even twice? Or even 50 times?

Noooo... it's over because you milquetoasts want it to be.

Roll over conservatives. Play dead and eat your Obamacare veggies and like it.

You show your hand, Jazzhead. Whose side are you really on?

Why should Trump deal with the Freedom Caucus?  Give me just one good reason.   

[XenaLee]

LOL!!!   Oh come on.  Nobody's gonna believe that one.

Correction.

Well.... almost nobody.   

[XenaLee]

No they did not.  Where is your evidence for that?  What the voters actually voted for are the people who, right now, sit in Congress. 

Heck, more than half of the voters actually voted for Democrats who wanted to preserve/expand the entire thing.  A bunch more voted for Republicans who openly promised to preserve some of it.  I've posted pre-election statements by some Republicans saying exactly that, and voters elected them.  When voters elected a majority of Congress that promised to preserve at least some part of ObamaCare, your statement simply cannot be true.

And you didn't answer the question -- do you think individual members of Congress should vote in accordance with the promises they made to their constituents, or not?

Yes of course, I do.   What I'm saying is.... most voters voted for Repeal (not replacement, which is secondary to repeal) of Obamacare.  Why do you deny that.... when it was a core platform policy and promise by the GOP?

Here.... read this....

I am with David Harsanyi of The Federalist in that I think the GOP passing something is better than nothing. However, the GOP didn’t promise “something.” They promised full repeal.

http://www.redstate.com/jaycaruso/2017/03/08/republicans-make-big-promises-back-off-wonder-voters-get-angry/

[Silver Pines]

Spring is my favorite season...and I look forward to it all winter for the love of gardening.  But damn....with all that crap/pollen flying around, I wake up with my head feeling like a water balloon and with constant sneezing.  To compound things, I am against taking meds, so other than a couple of Bayer aspirins on occasion, I don't take anything for it.  Have these hedges (ligustrum) in the front of the house that produce these cloyingly sweet, nauseating flowers every spring.  I am HIGHLY allergic to these.  I have tried to butcher the damned things but they keep growing back!

@XenaLee

Lol!!

We're surrounded by woods, so we get to have a little window of time in the spring where we can open all the windows and let in the fresh air.  And then the pollen starts, and there's a LOT of it. 

[Silver Pines]

I still can post there. But what's the point? All that is happening so far is what was predicted amid the shout-downs, stupid graphics, and other crap.

@Smokin Joe

There's no point that I can see.  Personally I can't relate to the desire to be among those loons. 

[catfish1957]

LOL....  I sure that is a fake tweet, but I could hear him saying something that stupid.

[INVAR]

Why should Trump deal with the Freedom Caucus?  Give me just one good reason.

So this whole advocacy you faked about Conservatives needing to compromise was all just showy bullshit.  Wha you really meant was that they were supposed to surrender and capitulate because they opposed your cherished Leftist ideal.

[txradioguy]

So this whole advocacy you faked about Conservatives needing to compromise was all just showy bullshit.  Wha you really meant was that they were supposed to surrender and capitulate because they opposed your cherished Leftist ideal.

IMO he'd just like to see Conservatives go away for good.

All hail the Uni-Party!

[goodwithagun]

Why should Trump deal with the Freedom Caucus?  Give me just one good reason.

1. Because he's not the boss he is the employee. The electorate is his boss.
2. Because the electorate chose the FC members through our Constitutional election system.
3. Because it's his job.

[goodwithagun]

I'd say the buyer's remorse at TOS is delicious but I'm also going to go down with the ship they built. At least the back walking is humorous: Everybody there warned everybody there that Trump could do this. Srsly you guys.

[r9etb]

1. Because he's not the boss he is the employee. The electorate is his boss.
2. Because the electorate chose the FC members through our Constitutional election system.
3. Because it's his job.

Those aren't the reasons why Trump needs to deal with them.  The reason is that Trump doesn't have a governing majority without them.

The FC, similarly, has got to realize that they're not a governing majority in and of themselves.  They can be spoilers for only so long until Trump finds a different group of folks to the left who can be used to gain a majority vote, to the serious detriment of the FC's principles.

[Jazzhead]

  They can be spoilers for only so long until Trump finds a different group of folks to the left who can be used to gain a majority vote, to the serious detriment of the FC's principles.

Bingo.  And Trump's calling their bluff.   

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Those aren't the reasons why Trump needs to deal with them.  The reason is that Trump doesn't have a governing majority without them.

The FC, similarly, has got to realize that they're not a governing majority in and of themselves.  They can be spoilers for only so long until Trump finds a different group of folks to the left who can be used to gain a majority vote, to the serious detriment of the FC's principles.

United we stand together we fall. Biting our own tail isn't the answer.

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[INVAR]

Those aren't the reasons why Trump needs to deal with them.  The reason is that Trump doesn't have a governing majority without them.

The FC, similarly, has got to realize that they're not a governing majority in and of themselves.  They can be spoilers for only so long until Trump finds a different group of folks to the left who can be used to gain a majority vote, to the serious detriment of the FC's principles.

Then let it be so, and he will simply illustrate that he is only interested in a 'win' so he can tack his name to the win column and will pick any side he thinks he can get a 'win' from - which is exactly what many warned he would do.   - It is what self-absorbed narcissists without any core convictions and whom possess a have-to-win complex do.

The only principles we knew Trump had was himself, and Liberal NYC values.

Let Trump caucus with the Democrats.  We knew he would - because that is what he was all along.  He never had any intention of enacting Conservative or Constitutional principles.

Only his own Populist ones.

[bolobaby]

Why should Trump deal with the Freedom Caucus?  Give me just one good reason.

@Jazzhead

Uh... I'll go out on a limb here...

BECAUSE THEIR IDEAS ABOUT HEALTH CARE REFORM AND OBAMACARE REPEAL ARE BETTER THAN THE SYPHILATED ABORTION RYAN SERVED UP?

Yeah... just a thought.

[r9etb]

United we stand together we fall. Biting our own tail isn't the answer.

Either way,

  or

... there's not much difference in outcome.

The Democrats will take the win however we choose to give it to them.

[r9etb]

Bingo.  And Trump's calling their bluff.

No, he's not.  Trump's either being a damned fool, or he never really intended to govern rightward in the first place.

I think Trump has pretty much burned his bridges with the FC.  Any deals they make together will have to be brokered in the context of some larger coalition in the house.

[Smokin Joe]

I'd say the buyer's remorse at TOS is delicious but I'm also going to go down with the ship they built. At least the back walking is humorous: Everybody there warned everybody there that Trump could do this. Srsly you guys.

LOL! 

Why, if they had done that, they'd have been banned...especially after the site came out dressed in Orange.