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Breaking: Paul Ryan may pull TRyanCare Bill.
« on: March 24, 2017, 04:50:01 pm »

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Re: Breaking: Paul Ryan may pull TRyanCare Bill.
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2017, 04:53:12 pm »
Might as well just let it die for now.  Not enough incentive for opponents on either side to compromise.  Maybe later, maybe not.

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Re: Breaking: Paul Ryan may pull TRyanCare Bill.
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2017, 04:55:49 pm »
The conservatives need to get out in front and blame this hash on the "moderates" who're obviously enamored with the power ACA has granted them and don't want to let it go.


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Re: Breaking: Paul Ryan may pull TRyanCare Bill.
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2017, 04:57:58 pm »
Now how long til they fold completely and withdraw gorsuch as well 
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Re: Breaking: Paul Ryan may pull TRyanCare Bill.
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2017, 04:58:18 pm »
@AbaraXas

CNN just said Ryan has gone to White House to tell Trump they don't have the votes.  Ryan may pull the bill.

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Re: Breaking: Paul Ryan may pull TRyanCare Bill.
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2017, 05:23:38 pm »
The conservatives need to get out in front and blame this hash on the "moderates" who're obviously enamored with the power ACA has granted them and don't want to let it go.

@skeeter

And on Trump, longtime supporter of universal healthcare, who's been 100% percent behind it to the point of threatening to primary no-voters.

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Re: Breaking: Paul Ryan may pull TRyanCare Bill.
« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2017, 05:48:01 pm »
This could make for an interesting Trumper-Tantrum.  (Don't know where I heard that, bit it sings to me)
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Re: Breaking: Paul Ryan may pull TRyanCare Bill.
« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2017, 05:52:28 pm »
@skeeter

And on Trump, longtime supporter of universal healthcare, who's been 100% percent behind it to the point of threatening to primary no-voters.

His support of it does not reflect well on him nor does it bode well for all of the other 'reforms' many of us were hoping for.

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Re: Breaking: Paul Ryan may pull TRyanCare Bill.
« Reply #8 on: March 24, 2017, 05:54:21 pm »
Well, I hope they don't cancel the vote.  I'd much rather see the bill come up for a vote and get voted down.

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Re: Breaking: Paul Ryan may pull TRyanCare Bill.
« Reply #9 on: March 24, 2017, 05:58:20 pm »
Well, I hope they don't cancel the vote.  I'd much rather see the bill come up for a vote and get voted down.

The Whip controls a vote of this import.  Not gonna vote if the Whip doesn't confirm the votes are there.
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Re: Breaking: Paul Ryan may pull TRyanCare Bill.
« Reply #10 on: March 24, 2017, 06:07:35 pm »
The Whip controls a vote of this import.  Not gonna vote if the Whip doesn't confirm the votes are there.

Normally, the Speaker will listen to the Whip's count.  But the Speaker can proceed with a vote for strategic reasons nevertheless if he so chooses.  And I suspect a failed vote is more likely to generate movement than not having a vote at all.

One other potential plus -- letting all those guys get on record with their votes may make it easier for them to compromise later.
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Re: Breaking: Paul Ryan may pull TRyanCare Bill.
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2017, 06:50:13 pm »
Normally, the Speaker will listen to the Whip's count.  But the Speaker can proceed with a vote for strategic reasons nevertheless if he so chooses.  And I suspect a failed vote is more likely to generate movement than not having a vote at all.

One other potential plus -- letting all those guys get on record with their votes may make it easier for them to compromise later.

You are correct.  One can't tell if there's any kind of strategery going on here.
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