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McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« on: March 12, 2017, 05:03:12 pm »
By Sandy Fitzgerald   |   Sunday, 12 Mar 2017 10:06 AM

President Donald Trump must provide the American people, not just the Senate Intelligence Committee, with proof of his claims that former President Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower, and if he doesn't have the proof, he needs to retract his statements, Sen. John McCain said Sunday.

"If his predecessor violated the law, President Obama violated the law, we've got a serious issue here, to say the least," McCain told CNN's "State of the Union" program, while pointing out that he himself has no reason to believe the allegations are true.

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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2017, 06:37:36 pm »
He is right..
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2017, 06:50:39 pm »
He is not wrong. He is making a major accusation of potentially a federal crime. To not act on that would be complicit, to have lied would be just as criminal, if it is true and it was an improper wiretap it must be investigated and acted upon. However, the big elephant in the room is if it was a properly requested and enacted wiretap with proper evidence given to justify it.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2017, 06:56:12 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on March 12, 2017, 06:50:39 pm
He is not wrong. He is making a major accusation of potentially a federal crime. To not act on that would be complicit, to have lied would be just as criminal, if it is true and it was an improper wiretap it must be investigated and acted upon. However, the big elephant in the room is if it was a properly requested and enacted wiretap with proper evidence given to justify it.

They're going to have to finger somebody publicly...the one who hand-carried the request, AND on whose behalf it was requested.  Names...not names of agencies.

I'm guessing they already know.    :shrug:
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2017, 06:58:58 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on March 12, 2017, 06:56:12 pm
They're going to have to finger somebody publicly...the one who hand-carried the request, AND on whose behalf it was requested.  Names...not names of agencies.

I'm guessing they already know.    :shrug:

Not just who, the big question is the why (if true). What evidence was provided in the requests? Was it justifiable evidence or not? Was it factual evidence or not? Did whoever request it fabricate evidence to get a warrant?  As I said, that's potentially the big elephant in the room.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2017, 07:20:52 pm »
Hey McLame. Dry up and blow away. A game of hardball is being played here. A game you know nothing about because you folded like a cheap umbrella when you went up against Zero.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2017, 07:30:51 pm »
McCain is just a tired dried up old butter bean.  He needs to just blow away.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2017, 07:36:31 pm »

Virtually no requests for monitoring are turned down, by the FISA Court.

The BIG issue would be a political concoction. A political fishing expedition.

That nothing was uncovered at the time, no public outing, tells me it was just that.

And emperor Obama has "plausible deniability." Trump don't gotta do nothin.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2017, 07:48:11 pm »
I really detest that traitorous, RINO piece of excrement, Hanoi McCain.  That he is still a member of Congress just goes to show how far and how low our nation has sunk thanks to the diligent efforts of the rabid American leftists, America's enemy within, and thanks to the efforts of America's enemy without, including McCain's former "captors".  He's just another Hanoi Kerry in my book.

And they used to deal with traitors in another way in the good ole days.  It sure didn't involve electing them to high office.  It usually involved a rope.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2017, 09:07:44 pm »
I feel sad...literally, for Meghan, when she appears on any FOX panel.

God bless her.

But also God bless the other FOX hosts for NOT asking her about her father's remarks...making a bigger story out of it.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2017, 09:23:20 pm »
I don't understand what this is? Why does the article use the word "must"? There is nothing legal about this. It is simply a statement McCain made about what he thinks Trump 'should' do. That's all. Nothing more. What am I missing?
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2017, 09:31:46 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on March 12, 2017, 09:07:44 pm
I feel sad...literally, for Meghan, when she appears on any FOX panel.

I actually feel sad for the other panelists if Meghan gets to craft services before them.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2017, 10:29:34 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on March 12, 2017, 06:56:12 pm
They're going to have to finger somebody publicly...the one who hand-carried the request, AND on whose behalf it was requested.  Names...not names of agencies.

I'm guessing they already know.    :shrug:

If they already knew...theyd have put it out already.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2017, 10:36:26 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on March 12, 2017, 05:03:12 pm
By Sandy Fitzgerald   |   Sunday, 12 Mar 2017 10:06 AM

President Donald Trump must provide the American people, not just the Senate Intelligence Committee, with proof of his claims that former President Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower, and if he doesn't have the proof, he needs to retract his statements, Sen. John McCain said Sunday.

"If his predecessor violated the law, President Obama violated the law, we've got a serious issue here, to say the least," McCain told CNN's "State of the Union" program, while pointing out that he himself has no reason to believe the allegations are true.

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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2017, 02:48:01 am »
Time to put up or shut up, Rump.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2017, 10:25:51 am »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on March 13, 2017, 02:48:01 am
Time to put up or shut up, Rump.

Already been proven. McCain is the issue.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2017, 10:39:19 am »
Quote from: LonestarDream on March 13, 2017, 10:25:51 am
Already been proven. McCain is the issue.


How has it been proven? I haven't seen a shred of proof.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2017, 10:49:43 am »
BREAKING: Trump has just given a courier a sealed envelope addressed to Sen. McCain.
The envelope is labled BITE ME! in large print.
Speculation is that this is some kind of code word.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2017, 12:14:58 pm »
Quote from: LonestarDream on March 13, 2017, 10:25:51 am
Already been proven. McCain is the issue.


Why is McCain the issue? Cause he asked Trump to prove it??
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2017, 12:34:12 pm »
President Trump may have all kinds of evidence, but getting a special prosecutor and members of the DOJ to hold Bammy responsible is quite another story. Not going to happen. Bammy and his shadow government are in place and much like the Clinton's, Bammy is well insulated. Sessions recused himself and the Deputy AG appointed was part of a Holder investigation of the Bammy administration awhile ago.  No wrong doing was found then and no wrong doing is going to be found now.
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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2017, 12:36:25 pm »
If he's got the evidence then put it out there and make his case to the people...make the people force their Congress critter to take action on the Hill.

Sitting there and just saying "I've got proof" without ever showing it is not doing anything to help his case.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2017, 12:47:45 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on March 13, 2017, 12:36:25 pm
If he's got the evidence then put it out there and make his case to the people...make the people force their Congress critter to take action on the Hill.

Sitting there and just saying "I've got proof" without ever showing it is not doing anything to help his case.

Yup. The burden of proof is on the accuser as always.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2017, 12:51:51 pm »
Quote from: Cripplecreek on March 13, 2017, 12:47:45 pm
Yup. The burden of proof is on the accuser as always.


Protocol for the next few years is trump makes the claim and it's up to us to disprove it or it must be true.
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2017, 01:22:20 pm »
Quote from: kevindavis on March 13, 2017, 12:14:58 pm

Why is McCain the issue? Cause he asked Trump to prove it??

McCain is always the issue.  He thinks he is still relevant.
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Re: McCain: Trump Must Prove Wiretapping or Retract Claims
« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2017, 01:23:45 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on March 13, 2017, 12:36:25 pm
If he's got the evidence then put it out there and make his case to the people...make the people force their Congress critter to take action on the Hill.   

The President called for an investigation, Congress has agreed.  Anything the President says publically now only hurts this process.

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