Author Topic: Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!  (Read 42029 times)

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I don't  forget much.  Some people here have a REAL problem with target identification.  The enemy is the MARXIST left in this country!  NOT the Trump administration!

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I don't regard the people here who automatically bash Trump over every little thing as liberals.

They claim to be conservatives..

But they've lost perspective.  Big picture truth:  Trump has not been a bad president at all.  He's appointed an excellent cabinet and nominated a fine supreme court justice.

He's planning to reduce and retire bad agencies like the EPA that sit around finding itty bitty spiders on a waterspout somewhere and deprive farmers and ranchers of the use of their lands.

He's supporting business and, guess what, business makes the jobs go around.

He is planning to build a wall and we need a wall and he's supporting agents who were hamstrung by the Obama administration so that they can deal properly with illegals who commit crimes.

That and a lot of other good stuff is on the plus side.

On the minus side, he's embarrassing the elegant and sophisticated here with his personal idiosyncracies and they are indulging themselves by acting superior and all that.

I'm not trying to muffle them .... I just want them to think occasionally.

None of your points back up the lie that people who want Trump to act like an adult are either liberals or RINOs.

The idea that the people on this board who oppose Trump's behavior are liberals or RINOs is now, and will always be ABSURD.

(And, btw,  I think ALL the time).
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Neither is your calling my rational thoughts, emotional, not logical.

So I guess we're even with the "not nice" comments, eh?   ^-^

Some folks just seem to take a criticism of Trump as a personal affront, and lash back at the person making the comment.
There's a lot of that going on around here.  Just lurk sometime and see how often it happens.


(Hint...... often).

Oh good grief.   That's not even close to what I was doing OR what I was talking about.
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OK folks, let's focus on the issue at hand -- EVIDENCE ( present or absent ) that :

1) Obama wiretapped Trump

2) Trump was in cahoots with the Russians.

Let's not allow this thread to devolve into a name calling war.

Whether one is a Trump supporter or not is beside the point.


And also let us not forget (as you wonderfully reminded us):

1) Obama wiretapped AP

2) Obama funded and armed ISIS, and gave Iran a wonderful window for Nukes.


Notwithstanding the decades-long love affair and treasonous dalliances the Left has had with the Soviets at the height of the cold war. 

I find it funny that NOW Trump in Cahoots with the Russkies is a 'bad thing'.

I think they are just jealous that maybe Trump stole their friends in the Kremlin.
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And also let us not forget (as you wonderfully reminded us):

1) Obama wiretapped AP

2) Obama funded and armed ISIS, and gave Iran a wonderful window for Nukes.


Notwithstanding the decades-long love affair and treasonous dalliances the Left has had with the Soviets at the height of the cold war. 

I find it funny that NOW Trump in Cahoots with the Russkies is a 'bad thing'.

I think they are just jealous that maybe Trump stole their friends in the Kremlin.

Or.... per usual..... the idiot left is just projecting what they've been doing all along onto their opponents, the GOP.  22 WH visits by that same Russian Ambassador under Obama.... tsk tsk.
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Again I'll submit for consideration these recent events:
- a $60 million "advance" to the obamas (ostensibly for yet-to-be-written books). What is this REALLY for?
- valerie jarrett's return to the obama household. Why is she needed there?

To run the 'parallel government' Obama is going to be the public face of, so that when they achieve the hoped-for annihilation of the Trump Administration - they can just step right on in during the 'interim' to maintain a 'working government'.

Oh, and to coordinate their Revolution from the nation's capitol.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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It got nasty all right.  We all need to let this go.  Cruz has been supporting Trump and Sessions.

Kelly Ann worked for both, so can we.

Cruz is a kicked puppy that whimpers when the master pulls the string.

Trump is now whining and claiming "McCarthyism!". This is not "fighting back", this is insanity.;

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Cruz is a kicked puppy that whimpers when the master pulls the string.

Trump is now whining and claiming "McCarthyism!". This is not "fighting back", this is insanity.;

Sure looks that way.

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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/837989835818287106


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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump


He's coming off as mentally ill.


Noticing that Obama was a fascist dictator comes off as mentally ill? 

I have no doubt that Obastard would have done something like that.  I've been keeping up with what the criminal affirmative action fool has been doing,  and he not only has no respect for the law,  he doesn't even comprehend it.   


I don't think Trump is coming off as mentally ill for noticing Obama was a rat-bastard who belongs in prison.  I'm thinking that people who obsess on finding fault with everything Trump does are the ones coming off as having some sort of mental issue. 
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Sure looks that way.

@geronl

Looks aren't deceiving in this case. IMO, it is fast approaching appalling. Day ain't over yet.
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Noticing that Obama was a fascist dictator comes off as mentally ill? 

I have no doubt that Obastard would have done something like that.  I've been keeping up with what the criminal affirmative action fool has been doing,  and he not only has no respect for the law,  he doesn't even comprehend it.   


I don't think Trump is coming off as mentally ill for noticing Obama was a rat-bastard who belongs in prison.  I'm thinking that people who obsess on finding fault with everything Trump does are the ones coming off as having some sort of mental issue.

I find myself wishing trump would use a more subtle approach. Trying to be more outlandish than the left is too outlandish even for me.
She asked me name my foe then. I said the need within some men to fight and kill their brothers without thought of Love or God. Ken Hensley

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Cruz is a kicked puppy that whimpers when the master pulls the string.

Trump is now whining and claiming "McCarthyism!". This is not "fighting back", this is insanity.;

Insanity is not recognizing what is actuall going on here.  The MARXIST left in this country is in danger of losing a lot of what they have spent an entire century putting in place and they are going to pull out ALL the stops, both legal and otherwise, to prevent that from happening!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Cruz is a kicked puppy that whimpers when the master pulls the string.

Trump is now whining and claiming "McCarthyism!". This is not "fighting back", this is insanity.;


Will Trump end up the first President 25th'd out?

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Will Trump end up the first President 25th'd out?

Still curious WTF ... what's your endgame?

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But he won't because that wouldn't allow him to control the narrative and has the potential of going off the rails.

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Insanity is not recognizing what is actuall going on here.  The MARXIST left in this country is in danger of losing a lot of what they have spent an entire century putting in place and they are going to pull out ALL the stops, both legal and otherwise, to prevent that from happening!

I can only speak for myself. I see that. I don't have to step out on the limb to say I think most of us see that. I find trump's maluse of adjections waring, wearing thin.
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Will Trump end up the first President 25th'd out?

I doubt it as that would require competence and action from Congress and/or others.

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Insanity is not recognizing what is actuall going on here.  The MARXIST left in this country is in danger of losing a lot of what they have spent an entire century putting in place and they are going to pull out ALL the stops, both legal and otherwise, to prevent that from happening!


Bigun,


I think Trump would have an easier time preventing the left from stopping Trump if Trump stopped doing stuff like this. I actually think this is a huge distraction because it makes Trump look mentally ill IMO, and the story becomes "Trump is mentally ill" rather than "Trump is working back the left's agenda".

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More likely is the wires were not tapped, they were just crossed. (in his head)

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Bigun,


I think Trump would have an easier time preventing the left from stopping Trump if Trump stopped doing stuff like this. I actually think this is a huge distraction because it makes Trump look mentally ill IMO, and the story becomes "Trump is mentally ill" rather than "Trump is working back the left's agenda".

So tell me how e is supposed to get this on a front burner without doing what he is doing given the current forces all aligned against him?

BTW: I note the total absence of Jeff Sessions in the headlines today.
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So tell me how e is supposed to get this on a front burner without doing what he is doing given the current forces all aligned against him?

Just hold a press conference and tell us he actually has documented evidence. He doesn't have to show us the evidence per the rules of discovery/disclosure per an investigative process.

He doesn't have to make catcalls from the back row. He is the f-ing POTUS, for hell's sake.
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Just hold a press conference and tell us he actually has documented evidence. He doesn't have to show us the evidence per the rules of discovery/disclosure per an investigative process.

He doesn't have to make catcalls from the back row. He is the f-ing POTUS, for hell's sake.

Exactly.

Reagan showed how a Statesman does it. 

You don't tweet every stupid thing that comes into your head out into the universe when you are the freaking President.

Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775