Terrible! Just found out that Obama had my "wires tapped" in Trump Tower just before the victory. Nothing found. This is McCarthyism!

[INVAR]

People should be skeptical and he better be able to prove it. But that aside, does anyone seriously doubt that Obama/the libs in various departments wouldn't pull that? Havent we all long said that the Dems had 'files' etc on the GOP and thats why they always go back on their promises/dise with dems/fund Obamacare and the rest?

Exactly.  Given what I have been reading over the last couple of weeks and the coincidental timing of Valerie Jarret moving in with the Obama's a couple blocks away - it sure smells like the set-ups and minefields were laid in advance of the inauguration to pull off the coup that I think is actually ongoing as we read this board.

That the FISA court would be used as a political weapon was warned about a good time back, and if anything in Obama's tenure is self-evident - it is that he uses the courts and packed the Alphabets and the appointed command positions with radical Bolsheviks, loyal to their cause.

I don't like Trump, but the fact we have a silent coup being waged is hardly the stuff of tinfoil conspiracy sites like Alex Jones anymore. 

I mean, Bush sat mute and silent during Obama's entire reign, and NOW he has decided to come forth to offer 'advice' that sides with the Democrats?????

[SirLinksALot]

Well, there's your proof...even if there's no more. I have little doubt that it went well beyond just tapping the Ambassador...and if there is proof that Obama tapped anyone in the Trump campaign that is simply huge. A true threat to our democracy, and Trump SHOULD be shouting it from the rooftops. Its pathetic to read anti-Trump commentary over this issue....almost as a reflex. Rational criticism is one thing...reflexive and unsupported attacks on the president on such an is just another manifestation of the irrational nature of the still lingering NeverTrump idiocy.

My friend, I cannot speak for others, but I was a Cruz supporter but not a NeverTrumper (BTW, this tendency to accuse every single Trump critic as a Never Trumper has got to stop. I Want Trump to succeed, but only if he does the right thing. It would be idiotic to cheer bad policies).

Having said that, how can you blame people for being skeptics when Trump has a record of falsely accusing people, attacking decent men, and exagerration?

Many of us feel like the villagers who have been fooled by the boy who cried wolf.

So Mr. Trump, put up or shut up.... show us the evidence!

[Cripplecreek]

Trump gives the speech of his life on Tuesday and apparently decides to sabotage it on Saturday. On Wednesday the majority of the people were looking at him as being Presidential and the stock market took off. I predict Monday's market will be a different story.
Does he think this whole thing is a reality show? I'm really starting to question his mental state.

Same old Trump I've known for nearly 40 years

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Rump made the claim HE needs to show evidence. Not his idiot minions in the press or on this site.

[LonestarDream]

Exactly.  Given what I have been reading over the last couple of weeks and the coincidental timing of Valerie Jarret moving in with the Obama's a couple blocks away - it sure smells like the set-ups and minefields were laid in advance of the inauguration to pull off the coup that I think is actually ongoing as we read this board.

That the FISA court would be used as a political weapon was warned about a good time back, and if anything in Obama's tenure is self-evident - it is that he uses the courts and packed the Alphabets and the appointed command positions with radical Bolsheviks, loyal to their cause.

I don't like Trump, but the fact we have a silent coup being waged is hardly the stuff of tinfoil conspiracy sites like Alex Jones anymore. 

I mean, Bush sat mute and silent during Obama's entire reign, and NOW he has decided to come forth to offer 'advice' that sides with the Democrats?????

Very discerning. 

[XenaLee]

Exactly!!!! Bingo.

Also get tired of having my voting record being misconstrued.

After Walker got out, First I was for Cruz, then I was for Trump/Cruz and now I am for Trump/Pence.


My posting history shows this.   


And Xena, you might think Trump methods are quirky  , but there a 'method to the madness '

ALL of the media will not be able to ignore, dissemble and lie about these events.

If the 'method to the madness' is to get the info out there quick (via Twitter) and get it out to millions of people, it's working.  However, you can't deny that his tweeting behavior also gives the Trump-haters more ammo to use against him by virtue of the fact that it displays a temper that is at times, perhaps, uncontrollable by Trump himself.  Not a good quality that people want in a CIC.  He does need to tone it down a bit and just post/tweet the facts without the hyperbole adjectives.

He needs to channel Spock.   

[mystery-ak]

Exactly.  Given what I have been reading over the last couple of weeks and the coincidental timing of Valerie Jarret moving in with the Obama's a couple blocks away - it sure smells like the set-ups and minefields were laid in advance of the inauguration to pull off the coup that I think is actually ongoing as we read this board.

That the FISA court would be used as a political weapon was warned about a good time back, and if anything in Obama's tenure is self-evident - it is that he uses the courts and packed the Alphabets and the appointed command positions with radical Bolsheviks, loyal to their cause.

I don't like Trump, but the fact we have a silent coup being waged is hardly the stuff of tinfoil conspiracy sites like Alex Jones anymore. 

I mean, Bush sat mute and silent during Obama's entire reign, and NOW he has decided to come forth to offer 'advice' that sides with the Democrats?????

Excellent post

[LonestarDream]

If the 'method to the madness' is to get the info out there quick (via Twitter) and get it out to millions of people, it's working.  However, you can't deny that his tweeting behavior also gives the Trump-haters more ammo to use against him by virtue of the fact that it displays a temper that is at times, perhaps, uncontrollable by Trump himself.  Not a good quality that people want in a CIC.  He does need to tone it down a bit and just post/tweet the facts without the hyperbole adjectives.

He needs to channel Spock.   

Right and Right.


Many of us Tried with Cruz.  Country did want a solely analytical constitutional conservative.

At least Hillary! is not running things.

[XenaLee]

Exactly.  Given what I have been reading over the last couple of weeks and the coincidental timing of Valerie Jarret moving in with the Obama's a couple blocks away - it sure smells like the set-ups and minefields were laid in advance of the inauguration to pull off the coup that I think is actually ongoing as we read this board.

That the FISA court would be used as a political weapon was warned about a good time back, and if anything in Obama's tenure is self-evident - it is that he uses the courts and packed the Alphabets and the appointed command positions with radical Bolsheviks, loyal to their cause.

I don't like Trump, but the fact we have a silent coup being waged is hardly the stuff of tinfoil conspiracy sites like Alex Jones anymore. 

I mean, Bush sat mute and silent during Obama's entire reign, and NOW he has decided to come forth to offer 'advice' that sides with the Democrats?????

And.... what bothers and worries me the most isn't Trump and his pecularities of behavior....

but the fact that this mini-coup was, as you said, laid in advance and was well planned out by Obama's leftist regime.  It's like a giant poisonous snake that is coiling and getting ready for the kill strike.  Question is, what damage will it do when it strikes the final blow.

I'm beginning to think that these idiots on the left really want another civil war.  That they actually ""think"" they would win. 

[Silver Pines]

Not that way at all.  Obama undermined the compartmentalization of NSA collections AND the FISA court.   BIG problems, because we are ALL wiretapped.

@LonestarDream

Just like the other day, you're not responding to my post, but replying with something unrelated.

I said, if there's something to this, he may have blown it by pre-emptively tweeting.

[montanajoe]

Instead of building on the bump he got the other night from his address to Congress to advance his agenda he's coming off as a loon..yet again. That's whats terrible.. 

[LonestarDream]

@LonestarDream

Just like the other day, you're not responding to my post, but replying with something unrelated.

I said, if there's something to this, he may have blown it by pre-emptively tweeting.

I am responding to the core topic, not straw men.  Also not looking to hold grudges about discussions that are out of scope, from thread to thread.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

And.... what bothers and worries me the most isn't Trump and his pecularities of behavior....

but the fact that this mini-coup was, as you said, laid in advance and was well planned out by Obama's leftist regime.  It's like a giant poisonous snake that is coiling and getting ready for the kill strike.  Question is, what damage will it do when it strikes the final blow.

I'm beginning to think that these idiots on the left really want another civil war.  That they actually ""think"" they would win.

Another keyboard warrior calling for civil war.


 

[INVAR]

And.... what bothers and worries me the most isn't Trump and his pecularities of behavior....

but the fact that this mini-coup was, as you said, laid in advance and was well planned out by Obama's leftist regime.  It's like a giant poisonous snake that is coiling and getting ready for the kill strike.  Question is, what damage will it do when it strikes the final blow.

Ayers and a number of the people who were in Obama's regime, war-gamed exterminating 40-60 million Americans back in the 1980's because they deemed us unable to be re-educated to accept the new order'. 

Marxists do not care how many die in the bloodbath they incite - they only care about getting the bloodbath started, because death and misery are necessary to impose their utopia on societies they take over.

[Fishrrman]

Cripplecreek wrote:
"The spying would require the approval of the FISA court."

Unless the obama administration decided to ignore the court and "wiretap away" as they pleased.

Considering their arrogance elsewhere, does that really seem to be a remote possibility?

I'm wondering if this is the reason that valerie jarrett moved into obama's home?
Damage control? (more than obama could handle on his own?)
Or is she there to direct coming "events"?

Methinks this story is going to get very interesting.

[catfish1957]

This is a serious accusation he better have proof!

Sure is.  Nixon didn't even have first hand knowledge of the Watergate break in.  If Obama did plan and execute a tap of this type, he would be  in for some serious time in Leavenworth.

[LonestarDream]

Instead of building on the bump he got the other night from his address to Congress to advance his agenda he's coming off as a loon..yet again. That's whats terrible.. 

Time will tell.  Mark Levin and Andy McCarthy are back in Trump corner.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/03/03/mark_levin_the_real_scandal_is_that_obama_spied_on_trump_during_2016_campaign.html

About Obama's efforts against Trump: "There's a much bigger scandal here: We have a prior administration. Barack Obama and his surrogates, who are supporting Hillary Clinton and her party, the Democratic Party. Who were using the... intelligence activities to surveil members of the Trump campaign, and to put that information out in the public. Those are police state tactics. Nothing Flynn or Sessions has done is even in the same category as that," Levin said.

"The question is: Was Obama surveilling top Trump campaign officials during the election?" he asked.

[Cripplecreek]

Another keyboard warrior calling for civil war.


 

The chairborne rangers are wildly overconfident

[XenaLee]

Another keyboard warrior calling for civil war.


 

And another reading-comprehension-challenged keyboard kibbitzer wowing us with that ....no, not dazzling brilliance, but baffling bullshit.

Read it again.  I'm not calling for civil war.  I'm pointing out that the left seems to be ginning up for it.  Big difference.

Discernment - get some.

[LonestarDream]

And another reading-comprehension-challenged keyboard kibbitzer wowing us with that ....no, not dazzling brilliance, but baffling bullshit.

Read it again.  I'm not calling for civil war.  I'm pointing out that the left seems to be ginning up for it.  Big difference.

Discernment - get some.

Obviously, your post implies the you do NOT want a civil war. 

[Emjay]

@mystery-ak

I have said numerous times, every day for the next four years, Trump will do this; cause turmoil every day - he has lived his life like this.  Remember, if he wasn't in the newspapers every day, he would use a fake name and call the newspapers to tell them what Trump was doing so there would be newspaper coverage about him.  He cannot change.  Also, someone pointed out to me, when something good happens to him (as the good speech he read to congress), he immediately does something to hurt himself.  Who remembers the good speech now?  It has gone by the wayside now with the Sessions problem and now this tweet that Obama wiretapped Trump tower.  And, the tweet about Arnold,  "Arnold Schwarzenegger isn't voluntarily leaving the Apprentice, he was fired by his bad (pathetic) ratings, not by me."

Thanks for dropping in the little phrase (the good speech he read to congress)... you cannot even resist dissing him for something he did well.

Also throwing in the Sessions problem which is a lib created one by people who did the same thing.

I don't know if this story is true and neither do you, but you are one of the people whose hatred of Trump runs so deep if he cured cancer you would complain that he didn't cure obesity.

You are so offended by his personal idiosyncracies.  Yes, he is childish.  Yes, he is vindictive.  Yes, he likes attention.

But you cannot stand the fact that, Yes, he's been a pretty good president so far.

 

[XenaLee]

Ayers and a number of the people who were in Obama's regime, war-gamed exterminating 40-60 million Americans back in the 1980's because they deemed us unable to be re-educated to accept the new order'. 

Marxists do not care how many die in the bloodbath they incite - they only care about getting the bloodbath started, because death and misery are necessary to impose their utopia on societies they take over.

I know.  I knew the history of Obama and Ayers even before Obama was elected.  I had researched it well, along with all the other freepers out there.  Too bad most Americans didn't bother to check them out, eh?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Problem is Trump has no credibility:


1) He had the greatest EC win


2) Ted Cruz's father murdered JFK


3) 3 million illegal votes (Yes there is problem with Fraud but nowhere on that scale and the idiot WON!)


4) purposefully lied to the media about immigration


This is what happens when you're a lying sack of monkey shit as Trump is.

[Silver Pines]

IMHO, the Trump team should keep quiet and go on the offensive. Open investigations and start bringing indictments against Dems. Let's start with Lois Lerner.

@Scutter

If they have evidence of wiretapping, an investigation is definitely the way to go.

[LonestarDream]

306 Aint Bush. 

Problem is Trump has no credibility:


1) He had the greatest EC win


2) Ted Cruz's father murdered JFK


3) 3 million illegal votes (Yes there is problem with Fraud but nowhere on that scale and the idiot WON!)


4) purposefully lied to the media about immigration


This is what happens when you're a lying sack of monkey shit as Trump is.