Ted Cruz: Here’s how to repeal Obamacare

[endicom]

Hot Air
John Sexton
Mar. 2, 2017

Ted Cruz has a piece at Politico today in which he lays out a plan to repeal and replace Obamacare. He opens by citing two principles he says need to guide the Republican party:

    First principle: Honor our promise. When you spend six years promising, “If only we get elected, we’ll repeal Obamacare,” you cannot renege on that promise. Failure is not an option. Breaking our word would be catastrophe. The voters would, quite rightly, never again trust Republicans to deliver on anything.

    The second principle is don’t make it worse. The Pottery Barn rule applies: If you break it, you own it. Democrats broke health care: Since Obamacare passed, millions of people have had their plans canceled; average family premiums on employer-sponsored plans have risen by about $5,000; and average family deductibles on the individual market have also risen $5,000. Consumers are paying more for less, and that’s hurting a lot of families. Republicans can’t make it worse; instead, we’ve got to fix the problem.

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If this is the way to go then just damned do it.

[Cyber Liberty]

I thought Ted Cruz was a liar who cannot be believed?  He waves that Bible around, then lays it down and LIIIES.

How do we know he's not being Lyin' Ted now?  Did something happen?

[bolobaby]

Does anyone really give a spit about health savings accounts? Should they? Or is it a trick when we could just lower the income tax and say, "Now you have more money for health care if you need it. If you don't, go buy some new kicks."

It's not our job to make people save for health care.

[Bigun]

Ted is right! As usual!

Can't remember the last time he was wrong about anything but I'm sure there will be those who will attempt to refresh my memory!

[endicom]

I thought Ted Cruz was a liar who cannot be believed?  He waves that Bible around, then lays it down and LIIIES.

How do we know he's not being Lyin' Ted now?  Did something happen?

Do you agree with him or not?

[Cyber Liberty]

Do you agree with him or not?

Do I agree with Cruz about the strategy, or do I agree with Trump that Ted Cruz is the biggest liar to ever come down the pike?  Can't have both.

[thackney]

Does anyone really give a spit about health savings accounts?

I sure do.  We have used them for years in conjunction with high deductible health insurance.

When the government makes rules that let you lower your tax bill, it is foolish not to use them.  I don't feed the beast more than I'm required to do.

[endicom]

Do I agree with Cruz about the strategy, or do I agree with Trump that Ted Cruz is the biggest liar to ever come down the pike?  Can't have both.

It's obvious that Trump owns you but this isn't about Trump.

Do you agree with Cruz or not?

[Applewood]

I thought Ted Cruz was a liar who cannot be believed?  He waves that Bible around, then lays it down and LIIIES.

How do we know he's not being Lyin' Ted now?  Did something happen?

Where do you think he may be lying?  Or are you just yanking our chain?

[Cyber Liberty]

It's obvious that Trump owns you but this isn't about Trump.

Do you agree with Cruz or not?

It's obvious?  You are FOS, I can barely stand Trump. 

I'm merely pointing out that it's a little disingenuous for Trumpsters to be touting anything Cruz has to say, considering how loudly you all proclaimed Ted Cruz a liar throughout the Primaries.  The political damage Trump did to Cruz was so grievous Cruz will be lucky to win reelection in '18, and if it costs Trump the Senate it will be a loss he richly deserves.

[Cyber Liberty]

Where do you think he may be lying?  Or are you just yanking our chain?

It's the chain.  Endicom deserves it.

[Applewood]

Does anyone really give a spit about health savings accounts? Should they? Or is it a trick when we could just lower the income tax and say, "Now you have more money for health care if you need it. If you don't, go buy some new kicks."

It's not our job to make people save for health care.

You're right on that point,  but I see nothing wrong with making the HSA more attractive and more available to those who want it. 

[Applewood]

It's the chain.  Endicom deserves it.

Aw....ok...

[endicom]

It's obvious?  You are FOS, I can barely stand Trump. 

I'm merely pointing out that it's a little disingenuous for Trumpsters to be touting anything Cruz has to say, considering how loudly you all proclaimed Ted Cruz a liar throughout the Primaries.  The political damage Trump did to Cruz was so grievous Cruz will be lucky to win reelection in '18, and if it costs Trump the Senate it will be a loss he richly deserves.

This isn't about Trump and it isn't about "Trumpsters."

Do you agree with Cruz or not?

[Cyber Liberty]

This isn't about Trump and it isn't about "Trumpsters."

Do you agree with Cruz or not?

 
I do agree with Cruz. 

And it's debatable that it isn't about Trump and his fans.  People who don't care much for Trump and his campaign last year are not going to be quick to forgive the "Lyin' Ted!" BS. 

[Sanguine]

I sure do.  We have used them for years in conjunction with high deductible health insurance.

When the government makes rules that let you lower your tax bill, it is foolish not to use them.  I don't feed the beast more than I'm required to do.

And, they could be one of the few things that could actually bring health care costs down.

[Silver Pines]

It's obvious?  You are FOS, I can barely stand Trump. 

I'm merely pointing out that it's a little disingenuous for Trumpsters to be touting anything Cruz has to say, considering how loudly you all proclaimed Ted Cruz a liar throughout the Primaries.  The political damage Trump did to Cruz was so grievous Cruz will be lucky to win reelection in '18, and if it costs Trump the Senate it will be a loss he richly deserves.

@Cyber Liberty

[Fishrrman]

bolo wrote:
"Does anyone really give a spit about health savings accounts? Should they?"

I don't see how anyone could believe that "health savings accounts" will make healthcare more "affordable" for more than a select few.

The vast -- the overwhelming -- majority of people don't put enough money into their -regular- savings accounts. Too many folks just don't have the cash to spare.

Where are they going to get -more- to set aside into health savings accounts that can only be used in sickness?

Yes, the option of health care savings accounts should be included for those few who might take advantage of them.

But to believe that this can be anything more than an insignificant appendage to a Republican "replacement for obamacare" -- is just, well, ridiculous.

[Bigun]

bolo wrote:
"Does anyone really give a spit about health savings accounts? Should they?"

I don't see how anyone could believe that "health savings accounts" will make healthcare more "affordable" for more than a select few.

The vast -- the overwhelming -- majority of people don't put enough money into their -regular- savings accounts. Too many folks just don't have the cash to spare.

Where are they going to get -more- to set aside into health savings accounts that can only be used in sickness?

Yes, the option of health care savings accounts should be included for those few who might take advantage of them.

But to believe that this can be anything more than an insignificant appendage to a Republican "replacement for obamacare" -- is just, well, ridiculous.

Citizens of this country have failed to be conditioned to the need for personal responsibility for at least two human lifetimes now.  I think its long past time for us to start correcting that problem.

[thackney]

Citizens of this country have failed to be conditioned to the need for personal responsibility for at least two human lifetimes now.  I think its long past time for us to start correcting that problem.

Absolutely

[Norm Lenhart]

 
I do agree with Cruz. 

And it's debatable that it isn't about Trump and his fans.  People who don't care much for Trump and his campaign last year are not going to be quick to forgive the "Lyin' Ted!" BS.

Nor should they be forgiven. Not a single one has a problem with it apparently.

Trump is President and that won't change. We can only hope he governs conservatively going forward. However that does not mean that his victory erases his OR their actions regarding Cruz. They were Democrat level evil on that account.

[Frank Cannon]

Nor should they be forgiven. Not a single one has a problem with it apparently.

Trump is President and that won't change. We can only hope he governs conservatively going forward. However that does not mean that his victory erases his OR their actions regarding Cruz. They were Democrat level evil on that account.

Come now. No reason to get all bent out of shape over Lyin' Ted, the lyingest lying liar that ever lied a lie and who's father killed a sitting President, not to mention he has a very ugly wife. The President said so.

[Norm Lenhart]

Come now. No reason to get all bent out of shape over Lyin' Ted, the lyingest lying liar that ever lied a lie and who's father killed a sitting President, not to mention he has a very ugly wife. The President said so.

You know honestly, I can understand Trump pulling that crap. It was still total BS and a scumbag move. But he's President because of it. there was a personal benefit to trashing his own credibility, paradoxical as that sounds. What I'll never understand is the Pavlovian idiots that pissed away their own integrity and CONTINUE to piss away their integrity propagating it.

Even open liberals are smart enough to shift gears when caught cold lying. But not this merry band of liars. They still soldier on even after Trump abandoned the meme.Thats either really stupid or really evil  and I'm pretty sure I know which. No one is that stupid.

[Hondo69]

bolo wrote:
"Does anyone really give a spit about health savings accounts? Should they?"The vast -- the overwhelming -- majority of people don't put enough money into their -regular- savings accounts. Too many folks just don't have the cash to spare.

Take a guess how health insurance is being paid for right now.  Go ahead, take a wild guess.  I promise it won't hurt to think.

[thackney]

I don't see how anyone could believe that "health savings accounts" will make healthcare more "affordable" for more than a select few.

The vast -- the overwhelming -- majority of people don't put enough money into their -regular- savings accounts. Too many folks just don't have the cash to spare.

Where are they going to get -more- to set aside into health savings accounts that can only be used in sickness?

The continuing belief by too many in society that others should not be forced to make choices to pay their own bills is the source of many problems in this country.

What is believed to be a basic necessity as a standard of living in the US would be a luxury item in most of the world.  It sends the country spiraling down the drain of debt.

That effort should be spent on making health care more affordable through reductions of regulations, tort reform and allowing people to choose more basic insurance, instead of forcing them to pay for coverage they do not want or can afford.