@Quix
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@CatherineofAragon
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Quix, I don't think you are considering the conditions at the south pole - how difficult it is for anything to live on the ice. This is not Florida. My documentary film director son spent three months on the ice going to the north pole. The film he made there was reconstructing the race to the south pole by Norway's Amundsen and Britain's Scott. These people on the reconstructed two teams of explorers wore the same type clothes and ate the same type food as those explorer's did. My son had different food to eat so he would not get sick - if he couldn't function, no film would be made. They would have made this film at the south pole except that sledge dogs are not allowed at the south pole now.
My son wore a suit made by NASA for him, to keep him able to function well enough to make the film. He said it looked like suits astronauts wore in space. He had special coverings for his film camera so it wouldn't freeze. He saw nothing but white for that three months. To begin, he and and the two explorer groups, plus their sledge dogs, and sledges, and equipment, were dropped on the ice by helicopters. A present day explorer who had been on the ice numerous times, stayed with my son to keep him out of danger. Everything is white and one can't see splits in the ice. Son was filming, wanted to get a certain shot, couldn't see an ice split, and fell, hanging onto a ledge of ice and the present day explorer got him out.
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Extreme cold freezes whatever is there. Everything freezes in the north pole and south pole in seconds. Trying to place people, aliens from outer space, whatever, on the ice for an extended period of time, actually living there, without extreme life saving construction of living space, and body protections, and food and water, medicines, and expect it to live, is not believable.
Now, if you say aliens from outer space can do this, they can't unless they come from a frozen place in space, already knowing how to survive in extreme cold and bring those life saving preps with them and manage to build something before they freeze. They may not look like us in any way, but whatever they are made of, is going to freeze.
I'm keenly aware of the technical and very deadly hazards. I have long standing family loved ones who live in Alaska and work on the North Slope and/or pipeline.
Congrats on your son surviving and doing such a grand job with those films!
The contention, roughly, is that the critters have vast underground and/or
under all that ice vast cities and structures. Some reports seem to indicate that the critters are still operating in their vast under ice cities. Certainly there are reports of such cities, structures being frozen and uninhabited.
The contention is that the Nazi's took vast loads of materiel in huge transport subs directly into the underground cities through a huge tunnel from the sea directly into such a city.
The stories can be reasonably asserted to be preposterous from a list of perspectives.
And, you persistently serve as a wonderful reality-check with rationality and skeptical perspectives.
Nevertheless, this is an era in which many preposterous things have already come true, affirming Biblical prophecy--and many more WILL come true that are even
more preposterous than what has come true, so far.
The critters evidently have 3-4
DIFFERENT technologies with which to take energy from the quantum structure of the multi-verse. Of that I have very little to no doubt. The reports have been to emphatic over too many decades.
In some respects, all it takes to deal with cold is plenty of energy producing sufficient heat. Certainly they have the energy tech to do that. The only other helpful thing would be sufficient insulation, in most respects. But even Eskimos' ice igloos are amazingly protective from the raw external cold with minimal inner heat.
IIRC, we are talking about structures and cities at least a mile under the ice.
Early in the cold war, we had a Thule, Greenland base that was buried under the snow and ice, with only the technology of that era. But it included an atomic reactor for power and thereby heat. It functioned quite well for a number of years.
We are talking about critters that have spiritual and technological capacities that are well beyond normal human capacities and technologies. They routinely travel between our multiverse/sphere and other
dimensions. I don't really think it's such a huge challenge for them to deal with even outrageously cold temperatures under a mile or more of ice.
Evidently, even we have some plasma and/or other technologies with which to build vast tunnels etc. through rock as well as ice relatively quickly.
It is part of my Watchman's job . . .
It is part of my personality . . .
It is part of my nature . . .
It is part of my habit . . .
It is part of my necessary strategies . . .
--to think very much outside the box.
It is almost impossible for me not to.Of course, reality is still reality.
However, it is demonstrable that "reality" is hardly what even the best scientists 100-200 years ago
THOUGHT it was. One brilliant physicist (I forget the name) declared more than 100 years ago that physics had nothing new to learn. That they then knew all there was to ever know about reality and its constructions. Boy did he turn out to be !!!WRONG!!!
Solid, very brilliant scientists seriously contend that all that we experience and perceive as reality is "merely" a vast extremely complex simulation--as in an artificial computer simulation. I think even Chuck Missler has become mostly convinced of that.
Suffice it to say, mankind is STILL not nearly as smart as he thinks he is in a list of respects.
There remain MANY unknowns that will be increasingly confronting us in this era. Some of them will be well beyond the line of
"OFF THE WALL" in terms of strangeness, preposterousness, . . . even "impossibility."
Part of me is sad for you that you have the challenging role of giving me pause for thought. But most of me is thrilled that it is you as you are the most capable, courageous, thoughtful and caring in such a troublesome, tedious task, or 'thrownness." THANK YOU. Now if we could just work out who could supply you with a steady supply of well-earned medals for your yeoman's work at such duties! . . . :LOL:
I think, in terms of the Antarctica reports . . . IF there is NOTHING there, it is MORE strange and preposterous than that the reports have at least a core reality to them.
How do we explain such persistent reports from such a diversity of sources?
Why would they come up with such a purportedly 'invented' set of realities as even fiction?
Why do the reports from such diverse sources fit so well together?
Why do the government and military officials relate to such issues in VERY TYPICAL black ops ways?
Why were the scientists picked up from one such site sooooooooo obviously and immovably utterly off-the-scale-TERRIFIED in their eyes and countenance?
Why are there so many persistent reports over the decades of it REQUIRING a certain constitution of human personality and maybe even DNA to be able to even see (much more so to interact with) some types of the critters WITHOUT GOING fairly instantly STARK RAVING MAD/INSANE--seriously?
Why has there been soooo much fairly successful and rigid secrecy in Antarctica for so many decades? . . . particularly if it's all merely, as purported, a vast "benign" scientific data collection research effort?
Why are there so many reports of incredible, preposterous buried structures and tunnels in Europe, Russia, Alaska and other places--somewhat similar to the reports of the cities under the ice and obviously related to 'other' type critters?
Certainly the cold is a huge challenge. It's just not an insurmountable challenge, as our spacecraft have demonstrated.
And an inexhaustible energy source would deal with the worst of the cold rather decisively.
Thanks.
