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Trump's Deportation Plan Is Economic Suicide
« on: February 25, 2017, 05:21:51 pm »
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There are a lot of things you can say about the Trump Administration’s recently announced deportation plan. You can say it is cruel, a policy that could only come from a president who lacks a heart. You can say it has more to do with President Donald Trump’s fevered imagination than the reality of the immigrant presence in the U.S. You can say that it's counterproductive, likely to uproot the very people this country should embrace — people who have struggled to get to the U.S. with the goal of working hard and making a better life for themselves and their children.

But if Trump is able to get the money from Congress to hire the 10,000 additional immigration cops and 5,000 more border agents he wants, if he gets local sheriff’s departments to help the federal government round up undocumented immigrants, and if he does indeed begin to deport hundreds of thousands, and perhaps millions, of them, then I think you’ll be able to say something else about his policy: It will be economic suicide.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-24/trump-s-deportation-plan-is-an-economic-death-wish
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Re: Trump's Deportation Plan Is Economic Suicide
« Reply #1 on: February 25, 2017, 05:27:50 pm »
The premise here is 'don't take away our illegal labor, it'd be really hard on us economically. Besides, they're all going home anyway'.

It may be economically hard on those who've grown to depend on illegal labor, but it'll be a boon to the rest of us.

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Re: Trump's Deportation Plan Is Economic Suicide
« Reply #2 on: February 25, 2017, 05:32:44 pm »
No, it's not.

His economic plan is economic suicide.

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Re: Trump's Deportation Plan Is Economic Suicide
« Reply #3 on: February 25, 2017, 05:40:48 pm »
No, it's not.

His economic plan is economic suicide.

If Trump's plan is to negotiate trade deals on a case by case basis I think we'll be alright. These mega deals are no bueno.

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Re: Trump's Deportation Plan Is Economic Suicide
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2017, 05:46:34 pm »
...people who have struggled paid a coyote to get to illegally enter the U.S. while taking advantage of some helpless co-travelers along the way (rape trees, folks) with the goal of working hard birthing an anchor baby and receiving free government services and making a better life for themselves still taking jobs since much of their pay will have to go unreported (since they are illegal) and their children saddling our schools with their kids so our citizens' children have a lower quality education all while refusing to integrate into the American culture but instead marching and waving Mexican flags...

...and so forth and so on...

Fixed it, sort of. Hard not to run-on with that.
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Re: Trump's Deportation Plan Is Economic Suicide
« Reply #5 on: February 25, 2017, 05:55:12 pm »
...people who have struggled paid a coyote to get to illegally enter the U.S. while taking advantage of some helpless co-travelers along the way (rape trees, folks) with the goal of working hard birthing an anchor baby and receiving free government services and making a better life for themselves still taking jobs since much of their pay will have to go unreported (since they are illegal) and their children saddling our schools with their kids so our citizens' children have a lower quality education all while refusing to integrate into the American culture but instead marching and waving Mexican flags...

...and so forth and so on...

Fixed it, sort of. Hard not to run-on with that.

Here... :laugh:

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Re: Trump's Deportation Plan Is Economic Suicide
« Reply #6 on: February 25, 2017, 06:05:33 pm »
No, it's not.

His economic plan is economic suicide.

How so, @geronl?

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Re: Trump's Deportation Plan Is Economic Suicide
« Reply #7 on: February 25, 2017, 06:06:27 pm »
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There are a lot of things you can say about the Trump Administration’s recently announced deportation plan. You can say it is cruel, a policy that could only come from a president who lacks a heart. You can say it has more to do with President Donald Trump’s fevered imagination than the reality of the immigrant presence in the U.S. You can say that it's counterproductive, likely to uproot the very people this country should embrace — people who have struggled to get to the U.S. with the goal of working hard and making a better life for themselves and their children.

But if Trump is able to get the money from Congress to hire the 10,000 additional immigration cops and 5,000 more border agents he wants, if he gets local sheriff’s departments to help the federal government round up undocumented immigrants, and if he does indeed begin to deport hundreds of thousands, and perhaps millions, of them, then I think you’ll be able to say something else about his policy: It will be economic suicide.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-24/trump-s-deportation-plan-is-an-economic-death-wish

I didn't have to read any further than this.... the fifth paragraph....to know what this 'piece' is.  It's bullcrap.

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“We’re really near full employment, and are likely facing a tight labor market for the next decade or so,” said Donald Grimes, a senior research specialist at the University of Michigan. “The only place firms are going to be able to find workers will be migrants.”

Ninety-plus million Americans are not in the workforce .... yet this author claims 'near full employment'?  Lies, lies and more lies coming from the idiot left.... tsk tsk.

Too bad there are enough stuckonstupid, low information citizens out there that will believe it... because they want to believe it.

What is committing national suicide.... is continuing to import more and more immigrants into the country that will end up on the US welfare system.  Immigrants that won't make enough to pay taxes into the system, and wouldn't even if they did make enough.  Add to that the Earned Income Tax Credit where many of these folks can get money back that they never paid in, and you have a recipe for a bankrupt nation.  It ain't rocket science.

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Finally, if America gets a reputation for being hostile to immigrants — or if the Trump administration pares back the various routes to legal immigration -- it might well scare off the highly educated, highly skilled immigrants who have, for instance, helped make Silicon Valley such a font of innovation.  No more Sergey Brins. No more Andy Groves. No more Elon Musks.

Where, exactly, did Trump ever claim intent to 'pare back routes to LEGAL immigration'?  More BS.

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The point is: America doesn’t need fewer undocumented immigrants. It needs more of them. The economy depends on it.

Uh....no.  America needs legal, documented immigrants..... not more illegals.  Let's call it what it is, not the politically correct version.  Illegal is illegal, no matter how you try to spin and slant it.
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Re: Trump's Deportation Plan Is Economic Suicide
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2017, 10:27:21 pm »
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Joe Nocera

There are a lot of things you can say about the Trump Administration’s recently announced deportation plan. You can say it is cruel, a policy that could only come from a president who lacks a heart. You can say it has more to do with President Donald Trump’s fevered imagination than the reality of the immigrant presence in the U.S. You can say that it's counterproductive, likely to uproot the very people this country should embrace — people who have struggled to get to the U.S. with the goal of working hard and making a better life for themselves and their children.

But if Trump is able to get the money from Congress to hire the 10,000 additional immigration cops and 5,000 more border agents he wants, if he gets local sheriff’s departments to help the federal government round up undocumented immigrants, and if he does indeed begin to deport hundreds of thousands, and perhaps millions, of them, then I think you’ll be able to say something else about his policy: It will be economic suicide.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-02-24/trump-s-deportation-plan-is-an-economic-death-wish
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