Mexico 'will not accept' Trump deportation guideline

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Last I had heard the wall is supposed to be a double steel wall with barbed wire; similar to what they have in Israel.

Just a note here ...

Since construction of the fence (in Israel) began, the number of attacks has declined by more than 90%. The number of Israelis murdered and wounded has decreased by more than 70% and 85%, respectively, after erection of the fence.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/background-and-overview-of-israel-s-security-fence

I really don't care if it is brick, steel, stone or paper.

If paper, just man it with guards that shoot first.

Or none at all.  They will learn like Bruce Dern did.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiFLTtjeuDc 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

These guys don't think ahead. Simply put, we cannot force Mexico to accept deportees if the people are not from Mexico.

My guess is international law places these people into a particular jeopardy as neither is able to force the other to accept.

Was on a Singapore Airlines trip once to Singapore from US.  Plane landed in Taiwan for refueling prior to flying on to Singapore.

A political agitator known in Taiwan just happened to pick that flight to try to get back into Taiwan.  Authorities got wind of it and refused to allow anyone off the plane.  After 6 hours of negotiations (and us staying on tarmac) in which the US would not fly him back to point of origin(the US) nor Taiwan permitting his entry, the plane flew onto Singapore which apparently permitted entry or otherwise.  That passenger was handcuffed to a seat at the back of the plane with a policeman escorting him onto Singapore.

[InHeavenThereIsNoBeer]

My guess is international law places these people into a particular jeopardy as neither is able to force the other to accept.

Was on a Singapore Airlines trip once to Singapore from US.  Plane landed in Taiwan for refueling prior to flying on to Singapore.

A political agitator known in Taiwan just happened to pick that flight to try to get back into Taiwan.  Authorities got wind of it and refused to allow anyone off the plane.  After 6 hours of negotiations (and us staying on tarmac) in which the US would not fly him back to point of origin(the US) nor Taiwan permitting his entry, the plane flew onto Singapore which apparently permitted entry or otherwise.  That passenger was handcuffed to a seat at the back of the plane with a policeman escorting him onto Singapore.

I was headed home from Ottawa via Detroit one afternoon when we lost an engine and landed in I think Toronto.  Problem that kept us waiting was that technically we cleared US Customs in the airport in Ottawa (not sure how that works), so they didn't want to let us "back" into Canada.

I knew I wasn't getting home that night, which meant I couldn't make my flight the next morning for personal travel on another airline.  So I waited until everyone else got done with their new arrangements, calmly explained my situation to the gate attendant, and mentioned that I had spoken to the other airline and they would honor my return ticket even if I missed the first flight.  So, if she could get me to any airport around DC that night or the next morning, I could salvage my vacation.  No attitude, no complaining, no blaming, no expectations, I just gave her the opportunity to help me if she could.  She did, the weekend was salvaged, and in the end it actually worked out better -- instead of waking up the next morning for a 6am flight and all that goes with travelling, I woke up at my destination.

BTW, was your stop in Taiwan or Hong Kong?  When I was working out of Singapore, the option was to connect from Chicago via either Narita or HK.  I chose whichever one would let me travel on SA and not UAL from ORD.  Always better to switch to the Asian airline as soon as possible.

[Fishrrman]

How many divisions does Mexico have?

[truth_seeker]

I've been reading forever that it is almost impossible to enter Mexico illegally.... that their border laws are extremely tough.  So how are non-Mexicans even in Mexico to enter from there?

Or should I not believe everything I read?

I have walked and driven into Mexico many times, until I didn't want to anymore. One family member used to have a vacation mobile home near Ensenada, until they didn't want to go anymore.

As much as some may say, it is not a modern First World country. My wife and I stayed in Mazatlán with other Americans, the majority of whom got the dysentery.

I believe that Mexico is strict on their Southern border.

Immigration both legal and illegal is not a new subject. Our authorities know the laws, so we don't need to reinvent the wheel for them.

[Oceander]

Yet Mexico is breaking the law by doing this.

International law for deportations is that the deportee is returned to his point of embarkation. NOT necessarily his native country, but where he was immediately before the country he was deported from. That country then determines if he stays there or is sent back further. Every country has signed off on this process - even North Korea, for God's sake.

Does that apply to those who cross illegally on foot?

It may be that the rule about returning to point of embarkation only applies to those denied entry at a port of entry, and not to those found to be in the country illegally.  If someone is turned away at the border, that's the easy case.  Point them in the direction of the door back to the other country if a land crossing, or tell the airline or ship to take them back if they arrived by air or sea.  If you catch them only after they've been in the country for a while, it gets dicier.  For one thing, how do you know where/how they actually arrived, and does the treaty apply in that case?  I can see reasons why the treaty would apply in the first case but not the second.