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Dems taking it on chin in daily tracking poll
Those identifying with the party of Clinton, Obama plunge to 25%
Published: 14 hours ago
 

The party of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton is taking it on the chin in a daily tracking poll.

The Gallup survey found that only 25 percent of voters self-identify as Democrats as of about the beginning of this year.

The percentage who identify as Republican is 28, while it is independents who have made the biggest gains, measuring 44 percent.

The data lists the trends from 2004, and notably, Democrats plunged from 31 percent at the time of the 2016 presidential election to the current 25 percent.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/02/dems-taking-it-on-chin-in-daily-tracking-poll/#hAAl8p24k73bIBAq.99

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Dems taking it on chin in daily tracking poll
Those identifying with the party of Clinton, Obama plunge to 25%
Published: 14 hours ago
 

The party of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton is taking it on the chin in a daily tracking poll.

The Gallup survey found that only 25 percent of voters self-identify as Democrats as of about the beginning of this year.

The percentage who identify as Republican is 28, while it is independents who have made the biggest gains, measuring 44 percent.

The data lists the trends from 2004, and notably, Democrats plunged from 31 percent at the time of the 2016 presidential election to the current 25 percent.

Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2017/02/dems-taking-it-on-chin-in-daily-tracking-poll/#hAAl8p24k73bIBAq.99

Now that is a poll that makes logical sense (a rarity) to me.   The left makes up about 1/3 of the nation vs. the majority they always present themselves as.  And the right has shrunk in numbers due to so many (myself included) distancing themselves from the GOP .... especially since the 2014 election resulted in no gains at all thanks to the backstabbing RINOs.  Finally, a poll I agree with!
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Gallup also had Trump favorability at 38% this week. I didn't bother posting it because I knew people would scream at me if I did.

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Gallup also had Trump favorability at 38% this week. I didn't bother posting it because I knew people would scream at me if I did.

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Gallup also had Trump favorability at 38% this week. I didn't bother posting it because I knew people would scream at me if I did.

Don't be such a snowflake, nobody is going to "scream" at you...though they are likely to point out your penchant for ignoring that he's at 55% in Rasmussen and hovering around 50 in some other polls. Given that, it seems likely that the Gallup methodology is skewed OR that its poll is simply an outlier. That said, I wouldn't dismiss it any more than you should so easily dismiss the Rasmussen...but simply await more polling and evidence and then weight the preponderance thereof!

Let me add, that hovering on the results of favorability polls is a poor approach...sometimes a president SHOULD do what's unpopular because it is right. In such cases, favorability will suffer in the short term but often corrects itself as presidential leadership brings opinion along with it...which is the very nature of good leadership.

Why the rush to judgement...to condemn every misstep and imperfection? Give the man a year...even 6 months. He's driving a massively huge ship that cannot be turned instantaneously, but at least he's turned the helm and is stoking the coal...let's see where he takes us before going after him on a daily basis.
« Last Edit: February 18, 2017, 03:32:01 pm by Mesaclone »
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Don't be such a snowflake, nobody is going to "scream" at you...though they are likely to point out your penchant for ignoring that he's at 55% in Rasmussen and hovering around 50 in some other polls. Given that, it seems likely that the Gallup methodology is skewed OR that its poll is simply an outlier. That said, I wouldn't dismiss it any more than you should so easily dismiss the Rasmussen...but simply await more polling and evidence and then weight the preponderance thereof!


I don't go with any one poll. I got with the RCP average, which averages out the Rasmussen and Gallup and all the other polls:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

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I don't go with any one poll. I got with the RCP average, which averages out the Rasmussen and Gallup and all the other polls:


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html

And yet, the only one you cited was Gallup....could it be you sought to further the impression that his favorability was as low as you could in order to paint his presidency in as poor of light as possible?
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And yet, the only one you cited was Gallup....could it be you sought to further the impression that his favorability was as low as you could in order to paint his presidency in as poor of light as possible?


I cited Gallup because this thread is talking about a Gallup poll.


I try not to go with any one poll.

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I cited Gallup because this thread is talking about a Gallup poll.


I try not to go with any one poll.

Ok, fair point. But you can't deny you've been out, with great vigor, to paint all things Trump in the most negative light possible. I get polling, as a old Poly Sci guy, but hanging on every....or any....poll in the first 30 days of a presidency is like grading a student paper after he answered two of 50 questions on a mid-term exam.

So I think my point is that you are going after Trump, deliberately not giving him a fair shot at moving the nation in a conservative direction. While I can understand the personal dislike...I agree that he's not a "likable" guy...why are you so determined to undermine his every effort? Personality aside, nearly every policy and argument he's making is moving the nation in a conservative direction...judicial appts, immigration policy, cabinet choices, military spending. He's not without flaws on these issues...but, good god....what would we be getting had Hillary been in his place these past 30 days?

You've lost perspective...or at least...totally surrendered your impartiality. Just my opinion...not trying to "attack" you, but just pointing out that you've gone WAY beyond just assessing whats happening and advanced to active advocacy for all things anti-Trump.
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Ok, fair point. But you can't deny you've been out, with great vigor, to paint all things Trump in the most negative light possible. I get polling, as a old Poly Sci guy, but hanging on every....or any....poll in the first 30 days of a presidency is like grading a student paper after he answered two of 50 questions on a mid-term exam.

So I think my point is that you are going after Trump, deliberately not giving him a fair shot at moving the nation in a conservative direction. While I can understand the personal dislike...I agree that he's not a "likable" guy...why are you so determined to undermine his every effort? Personality aside, nearly every policy and argument he's making is moving the nation in a conservative direction...judicial appts, immigration policy, cabinet choices, military spending. He's not without flaws on these issues...but, good god....what would we be getting had Hillary been in his place these past 30 days?

You've lost perspective...or at least...totally surrendered your impartiality. Just my opinion...not trying to "attack" you, but just pointing out that you've gone WAY beyond just assessing whats happening and advanced to active advocacy for all things anti-Trump.

I didn't like him, didn't trust him and didn't vote for him.  But that was then and this is now.  Now... I'm willing to give him a chance to prove me wrong again (I was wrong about his intention to hand it to Hillary) and as long as he moves things in a conservative, anything-but-left direction, I will support him.
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You can say what you will about Trump, but the fact is that his opposition looks even worse in the eyes of the American public.

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28% isn't something to brag about either.  Interesting and disturbing.

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I didn't like him, didn't trust him and didn't vote for him.  But that was then and this is now.  Now... I'm willing to give him a chance to prove me wrong again (I was wrong about his intention to hand it to Hillary) and as long as he moves things in a conservative, anything-but-left direction, I will support him.

That's all he or anyone could ask...a chance to prove themselves. Not by what he says, but by what he does. But its going to take some time to see action because there is still a legislative process that must occur...there's only so much that he can get done via Executive Order.
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Gallup has Trump's approval rating at 38%

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I didn't like him, didn't trust him and didn't vote for him.  But that was then and this is now.  Now... I'm willing to give him a chance to prove me wrong again (I was wrong about his intention to hand it to Hillary)

Trump did everything he possibly could top prove he was unfit to win, she was just worse.

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28% isn't something to brag about either.  Interesting and disturbing.
The longer term trend is found by comparing Jan. 2017 above, to Jan. 2013 (equivalent time of start of Obama's last term)

Current, R=28, D=25, I=44

Jan. 2013 R=27, D=33, I=38

Looking at it thusly, democrats are losing ground.

Looking at voting results,, it appears Republicans are getting votes from Independents.

That is consistent with many claiming to have left the Republican label.

The voting results are revealed by additions in the Senate, the House, the Presidency and Governors and state legislatures.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx
« Last Edit: February 18, 2017, 05:08:49 pm by truth_seeker »
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