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Experts Claim Earth’s Magnetic Poles Overdue To Flip: “Could Cause Chaos In Everything”
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Scientists are only just beginning to comprehend the dramatic impact that magnetic fields have on our lives, and indeed all life on earth.

And now, they fear that the poles are rapidly shifting, and could indeed flip in our lifetimes. A state of constant change, and the potential for drastic shifts, has made airline travel, communications, the electric, satellites and other infrastructure incredibly vulnerable.

Some of the effects have already been experienced on a low level, and we should take heed of the warnings they give.

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/experts-claim-earths-magnetic-poles-overdue-to-flip-could-cause-chaos-in-everything_02012017
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I'm sure St. Algore will claim a flip is due to "global warming." :whistle:

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I'm sure St. Algore will claim a flip is due to "global warming." :whistle:

Actually, it could well be a part of 'global warming', at least in western North America and South America. The North Pole has been moving 50 miles a year toward UK/Russia for a decades... Something like 700 miles by now... Essentially, Europe is 'moving' north, and equally, North America is 'moving' south, which tends to increase average temps in the US.

In such a scenario, the drought in CA is pretty easy to understand, as it is now effectively where Baja was... And the Northeast is creeping northward, explaining the heavy winter weather they now endure.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/12/1215_051215_north_pole.html
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So global warming is a result of pole shifting, not the cause?

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Experts Claim Earth’s Magnetic Poles Overdue To Flip: “Could Cause Chaos In Everything”
Mac Slavo
February 1st, 2017
SHTFplan.com
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Scientists are only just beginning to comprehend the dramatic impact that magnetic fields have on our lives, and indeed all life on earth.

And now, they fear that the poles are rapidly shifting, and could indeed flip in our lifetimes. A state of constant change, and the potential for drastic shifts, has made airline travel, communications, the electric, satellites and other infrastructure incredibly vulnerable.

Some of the effects have already been experienced on a low level, and we should take heed of the warnings they give.

http://www.shtfplan.com/headline-news/experts-claim-earths-magnetic-poles-overdue-to-flip-could-cause-chaos-in-everything_02012017

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So global warming is a result of pole shifting, not the cause?

That certainly seems to make sense to me...

Most of the weather measuring tends to be in warmer climes... Imagine all the stations in the US slipping southward toward equatorial averages... And Siberia, where the mightiest effects are being felt, being nearly without weather measurement... What would that do to the average?

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Actually, it could well be a part of 'global warming', at least in western North America and South America. The North Pole has been moving 50 miles a year toward UK/Russia for a decades... Something like 700 miles by now... Essentially, Europe is 'moving' north, and equally, North America is 'moving' south, which tends to increase average temps in the US.

In such a scenario, the drought in CA is pretty easy to understand, as it is now effectively where Baja was... And the Northeast is creeping northward, explaining the heavy winter weather they now endure.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2005/12/1215_051215_north_pole.html

"Santa better check his compass, because the North Pole is shifting—the north magnetic pole, that is, not the geographical one. "

The axis of rotation of earth is tilited about 22.5 with respect to its orbit around the sun.  That is why it is winter right now in the Northern Hemisphere,  the geographic north pole is tilted away from the sun.

This isn't changing.   Europe and NA are not moving south with respect to the geographic north pole, nor moving towards the equator.

The wandering magnetic pole will screw with our maps, not our weather.
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"Santa better check his compass, because the North Pole is shifting—the north magnetic pole, that is, not the geographical one. "

The axis of rotation of earth is tilited about 22.5 with respect to its orbit around the sun.  That is why it is winter right now in the Northern Hemisphere,  the geographic north pole is tilted away from the sun.

This isn't changing.   Europe and NA are not moving south with respect to the geographic north pole, nor moving towards the equator.

The wandering magnetic pole will screw with our maps, not our weather.

Shrugs... Think what you want. But I know Inuit who will tell you the winter sun sets differently than it used to... Noticeable in a generation. Likewise here - The winter solstice sunset is off by half a mountain from where it set when I was a lad, and the winter darkness is much shorter than it was.
 
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Shrugs... Think what you want. But I know Inuit who will tell you the winter sun sets differently than it used to... Noticeable in a generation. Likewise here - The winter solstice sunset is off by half a mountain from where it set when I was a lad, and the winter darkness is much shorter than it was.
 
It's moving.  don't care what anyone says.

The pole itself is moving, although I don't know if it would be perceptible over a 20 year period.  The technical term for it is precession, in which the axis itself traces out a circle.  The period is apparently about 26,000 years though, so a one degree change would take about 72 years. 

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The pole itself is moving, although I don't know if it would be perceptible over a 20 year period.  The technical term for it is precession, in which the axis itself traces out a circle.  The period is apparently about 26,000 years though, so a one degree change would take about 72 years.

It's doing more than that.

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Experts my butt.

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It's doing more than that.


Ok, but all I need is that it's moving.  If you want to elaborate, be my guest.

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The pole itself is moving, although I don't know if it would be perceptible over a 20 year period.  The technical term for it is precession, in which the axis itself traces out a circle.  The period is apparently about 26,000 years though, so a one degree change would take about 72 years.

The magnetic poles are always wandering and I think its actually far more than 1 degree over 72 years. In any case its nothing to panic over. Even a complete pole reversal is unlikely to have huge effects on us. Obviously it would affect things that rely on the magnetic field. A complete reversal wouldn't leave us unprotected either. The earth would have a residual magnetic field for quite a while.



Our magnetic field is large but quite weak. A refrigerator magnet is thousands of times stronger than the earth's magnetic field.

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It's doing more than that.

I agree.  I was thinking that about winter solstice time.
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Ok, but all I need is that it's moving.  If you want to elaborate, be my guest.
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There are articles out there saying the tilt has changed.
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This is crap.. I have been hearing about the Magnetic pole flip for over 20 years...
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Interesting stuff

Magnetic field strength is a measure of the intensity of a magnetic field, given in teslas (T), the standard unit. One tesla is equal to one weber per square meter, where one weber is the equivalent per second that is required to induce an electromotive force of one volt. Another way to define a tesla is that a magnetic field of 1 tesla must exert force of 1 newton on a wire of 1 meter carrying 1 ampere of current. This is a lot of force for a magnetic field to exert, as a newton is the force necessary to accelerate a 1 kg weight at 1 meter per second squared.

If all that sounds complicated, people can just think of magnetic field strength in teslas by reference to known field strengths. For instance, the Earth's magnetic field is equivalent to 1/30,000th of a tesla. Still, this is enough for birds to navigate by and to keep a compass hand pointed north. The magnetic field of Jupiter, the largest planet in the solar system, is about ten times stronger than Earth's, or 1/3,000th of a tesla. This is caused by charge circulating through metallic hydrogen in its interior.

Though the magnetic field strength of planets is relatively small, much stronger magnetic fields can be generated through artificial means. A typical loudspeaker magnetic generates a strength of 1 to 2.4 teslas. The magnetic field necessary to levitate a frog is about 17 teslas. The strongest electromagnets, which make use of superconductors, measure approximately 20 teslas. The strongest continuous magnetic field yet generated is 45 teslas, at Florida State University's National High Magnetic Field Laboratory in Tallahassee, while the strongest pulsed magnetic field obtained non-destructively was 100 teslas at the Los Alamos National Laboratory. By generating a magnetic field with an explosively pumped flux compression generator, researchers have been able to achieve a short-lived magnetic field of 2,800 teslas.

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-magnetic-field-strength.htm

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Interesting stuff

Magnetic field strength is a measure of the intensity of a magnetic field, given in teslas (T), the standard unit. One tesla is equal to one weber per square meter, where one weber is the equivalent per second that is required to induce an electromotive force of one volt. Another way to define a tesla is that a magnetic field of 1 tesla must exert force of 1 newton on a wire of 1 meter carrying 1 ampere of current. This is a lot of force for a magnetic field to exert, as a newton is the force necessary to accelerate a 1 kg weight at 1 meter per second squared.

If all that sounds complicated, people can just think of magnetic field strength in teslas by reference to known field strengths. For instance, the Earth's magnetic field is equivalent to 1/30,000th of a tesla. Still, this is enough for birds to navigate by and to keep a compass hand pointed north. The magnetic field of Jupiter, the largest planet in the solar system, is about ten times stronger than Earth's, or 1/3,000th of a tesla. This is caused by charge circulating through metallic hydrogen in its interior.

Though the magnetic field strength of planets is relatively small, much stronger magnetic fields can be generated through artificial means. A typical loudspeaker magnetic generates a strength of 1 to 2.4 teslas. The magnetic field necessary to levitate a frog is about 17 teslas. The strongest electromagnets, which make use of superconductors, measure approximately 20 teslas. The strongest continuous magnetic field yet generated is 45 teslas, at Florida State University's National High Magnetic Field Laboratory in Tallahassee, while the strongest pulsed magnetic field obtained non-destructively was 100 teslas at the Los Alamos National Laboratory. By generating a magnetic field with an explosively pumped flux compression generator, researchers have been able to achieve a short-lived magnetic field of 2,800 teslas.

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-magnetic-field-strength.htm

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https://www.nasa.gov/topics/earth/features/2012-poleReversal.html

Scientists understand that Earth's magnetic field has flipped its polarity many times over the millennia. In other words, if you were alive about 800,000 years ago, and facing what we call north with a magnetic compass in your hand, the needle would point to 'south.' This is because a magnetic compass is calibrated based on Earth's poles. The N-S markings of a compass would be 180 degrees wrong if the polarity of today's magnetic field were reversed. Many doomsday theorists have tried to take this natural geological occurrence and suggest it could lead to Earth's destruction. But would there be any dramatic effects? The answer, from the geologic and fossil records we have from hundreds of past magnetic polarity reversals, seems to be 'no.'

Reversals are the rule, not the exception. Earth has settled in the last 20 million years into a pattern of a pole reversal about every 200,000 to 300,000 years, although it has been more than twice that long since the last reversal. A reversal happens over hundreds or thousands of years, and it is not exactly a clean back flip. Magnetic fields morph and push and pull at one another, with multiple poles emerging at odd latitudes throughout the process. Scientists estimate reversals have happened at least hundreds of times over the past three billion years. And while reversals have happened more frequently in "recent" years, when dinosaurs walked Earth a reversal was more likely to happen only about every one million years.

Sediment cores taken from deep ocean floors can tell scientists about magnetic polarity shifts, providing a direct link between magnetic field activity and the fossil record. The Earth's magnetic field determines the magnetization of lava as it is laid down on the ocean floor on either side of the Mid-Atlantic Rift where the North American and European continental plates are spreading apart. As the lava solidifies, it creates a record of the orientation of past magnetic fields much like a tape recorder records sound. The last time that Earth's poles flipped in a major reversal was about 780,000 years ago, in what scientists call the Brunhes-Matuyama reversal. The fossil record shows no drastic changes in plant or animal life. Deep ocean sediment cores from this period also indicate no changes in glacial activity, based on the amount of oxygen isotopes in the cores. This is also proof that a polarity reversal would not affect the rotation axis of Earth, as the planet's rotation axis tilt has a significant effect on climate and glaciation and any change would be evident in the glacial record.

Earth's polarity is not a constant. Unlike a classic bar magnet, or the decorative magnets on your refrigerator, the matter governing Earth's magnetic field moves around. Geophysicists are pretty sure that the reason Earth has a magnetic field is because its solid iron core is surrounded by a fluid ocean of hot, liquid metal. This process can also be modeled with supercomputers. Ours is, without hyperbole, a dynamic planet. The flow of liquid iron in Earth's core creates electric currents, which in turn create the magnetic field. So while parts of Earth's outer core are too deep for scientists to measure directly, we can infer movement in the core by observing changes in the magnetic field. The magnetic north pole has been creeping northward – by more than 600 miles (1,100 km) – since the early 19th century, when explorers first located it precisely. It is moving faster now, actually, as scientists estimate the pole is migrating northward about 40 miles per year, as opposed to about 10 miles per year in the early 20th century.

Another doomsday hypothesis about a geomagnetic flip plays up fears about incoming solar activity. This suggestion mistakenly assumes that a pole reversal would momentarily leave Earth without the magnetic field that protects us from solar flares and coronal mass ejections from the sun. But, while Earth's magnetic field can indeed weaken and strengthen over time, there is no indication that it has ever disappeared completely. A weaker field would certainly lead to a small increase in solar radiation on Earth – as well as a beautiful display of aurora at lower latitudes - but nothing deadly. Moreover, even with a weakened magnetic field, Earth's thick atmosphere also offers protection against the sun's incoming particles.

The science shows that magnetic pole reversal is – in terms of geologic time scales – a common occurrence that happens gradually over millennia. While the conditions that cause polarity reversals are not entirely predictable – the north pole's movement could subtly change direction, for instance – there is nothing in the millions of years of geologic record to suggest that any of the 2012 doomsday scenarios connected to a pole reversal should be taken seriously. A reversal might, however, be good business for magnetic compass manufacturers.

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This is crap.. I have been hearing about the Magnetic pole flip for over 20 years...

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In terms of life on Earth and the direct impact of a reversal on our species we cannot definitively predict what will happen …

The magnetic field varies constantly and has flipped in the past. How much it will affect actually people is an unknown. What counts is that fear is generated in the herd. 
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So we're not all going to die tomorrow?

I wouldn't say that... :laugh:
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So we're not all going to die tomorrow?

Good Lord I hope not.

After the past 5 months I've had I'd be pissed and the bouncers at the pearly gates would toss me out.

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It is interesting stuff @Cripplecreek.
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