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Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« on: January 31, 2017, 08:37:40 pm »

Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump

By Aidan Quigley

01/31/17 01:55 PM EST

Former attorney general Loretta Lynch defended former acting attorney general Sally Yates’ decision to issue a memo questioning the legality of Trump’s executive order that restricts immigration from seven majority-Muslim nations.

“Sally Yates displayed the fierce intellect, unshakeable integrity, and deep commitment to the rule of law that have characterized her 27 years of distinguished service in the Department of Justice under both Democratic and Republican administrations,” Lynch said in a statement issued on Tuesday.

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2017, 09:00:08 pm »
I can understand her confusion; she's totally unfamiliar with integrity and mistook what Yates did for it.

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2017, 09:16:42 pm »
Integrity and being a Rat doesn't go together so it's understandable she doesn't know what it looks like.   :silly:

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2017, 09:18:22 pm »
Now I wish all the rest of the Obama cultists in the government would display the same "integrity"  so we could get those cockroaches out of the system.   


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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2017, 09:23:01 pm »
Now I wish all the rest of the Obama cultists in the government would display the same "integrity"  so we could get those cockroaches out of the system.
The interesting question would be is she also saying that the guy who replaced her doesn't have any "integrity" because he is not defying President the Donald. :pondering:

Somebody should ask her.

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2017, 09:24:01 pm »
Now I wish all the rest of the Obama cultists in the government would display the same "integrity"  so we could get those cockroaches out of the system.

I wish they would launch a full blown military style coup attempt so we'd be rid of them all permanently.

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2017, 09:25:01 pm »
Integrity and being a Rat doesn't go together so it's understandable she doesn't know what it looks like.   :silly:

To a 'rat 'integrity' mean staying true to the ends.

And as everyone knows the ends justifies the means.
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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2017, 10:49:51 pm »
Um, wouldn't integrity have been doing the job she had accepted, or resigning, not refusing to obey and enforce a lawful order from the President?

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2017, 10:58:31 pm »
If anyone knows integrity it's this old bag....


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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2017, 12:36:48 am »
I wish they would launch a full blown military style coup attempt so we'd be rid of them all permanently.


You might like this commentary from "Iron Bear."


http://dailypundit.com/2017/01/28/realistically-speaking-this-is-a-fools-errand/#comment-7493 

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2017, 12:49:22 am »
Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge without integrity is dangerous and dreadful.  -- Samuel Johnson

Ms. Yates, You are weak, useless, dangerous, and dreadful.

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2017, 12:51:27 am »
Integrity without knowledge is weak and useless, and knowledge without integrity is dangerous and dreadful.  -- Samuel Johnson

Ms. Yates, You are weak, useless, dangerous, and dreadful.

Well said.

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2017, 12:52:51 am »

You might like this commentary from "Iron Bear."


A good read. He thought it through pretty thoroughly. I especially liked "An awful lot of California Leftist politicians, industrialists, and Hollywood idiots find themselves charged with sedition and treason, and hanged or imprisoned. (I prefer hanged, but Federal prison works too.)"

As for the pic, I've seen manlier men at an 80s Blitz Kids revival.

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2017, 01:01:50 am »
Integrity?  No, Yates showed stupidity  She announced she wasn't going to do her job.  Did she really think she would have a job after telling her employer she wouldn't do what her job required? 


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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2017, 01:02:05 am »
A good read. He thought it through pretty thoroughly. I especially liked "An awful lot of California Leftist politicians, industrialists, and Hollywood idiots find themselves charged with sedition and treason, and hanged or imprisoned. (I prefer hanged, but Federal prison works too.)"

As for the pic, I've seen manlier men at an 80s Blitz Kids revival.


Yeah,  he put a lot of thought into it,  and I don't see any obvious mistakes in his analysis.   

California needs to be broken up.  The Liberal cities need to be isolated in terms of power from the conservative countryside.   Break up California,  and a chunk of their electoral votes will serve a useful purpose.   


Also two conservative Senators added to the Senate. 

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2017, 01:03:15 am »
Loretta Lynch knows all about integrity doesn't she!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2017, 03:30:54 pm »
I have to say Yates showed incredible ineptitude if she thought DT would let this pass.
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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2017, 03:49:47 pm »
Read this!

http://www.libertylawsite.org/2017/02/01/acting-attorney-general-yates-and-the-decline-of-civic-norms/

Excerpt:

The Department of Justice defends legislation and presidential actions if there is a reasonable basis in law to do so. No Attorney General has ever taken the position that he will defend such actions only if he is confident that they are legal and only if he believes they are just.  For good reason. The Department of Justice in litigation acts a lawyer, not a policy maker. And yet, as Jack Goldsmith has shown, the standard Sally Yates articulated for defending the President’s executive order on immigration was at odds with the traditional standard: she declined to defend because she was not confident that the order was legal and thought it unjust.
And beyond her failure to follow standards, she grandstanded. She did not approach the President with any concerns she had, offering to resign if they could not be met. Instead, she wrote a letter to the Department of Justice without consulting the President and allowed it to be leaked it to the press.  Would she have ever treated President Obama like this on an issue on which she had reservations? Why does she owe any lesser professional duty to President Trump for whom she agreed to act as Attorney General?
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2017, 03:54:32 pm »
Her statement didn't just say that she thought it was illegal -- she said she wasn't going to defend the order because she didn't think "it was the right thing to do."  That's not her role.

If she had integrity, she would have stated her opposition, then resigned of her own volition.

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2017, 04:44:24 pm »
Read this!

http://www.libertylawsite.org/2017/02/01/acting-attorney-general-yates-and-the-decline-of-civic-norms/

Excerpt:

The Department of Justice defends legislation and presidential actions if there is a reasonable basis in law to do so. No Attorney General has ever taken the position that he will defend such actions only if he is confident that they are legal and only if he believes they are just.  For good reason. The Department of Justice in litigation acts a lawyer, not a policy maker. And yet, as Jack Goldsmith has shown, the standard Sally Yates articulated for defending the President’s executive order on immigration was at odds with the traditional standard: she declined to defend because she was not confident that the order was legal and thought it unjust.
And beyond her failure to follow standards, she grandstanded. She did not approach the President with any concerns she had, offering to resign if they could not be met. Instead, she wrote a letter to the Department of Justice without consulting the President and allowed it to be leaked it to the press.  Would she have ever treated President Obama like this on an issue on which she had reservations? Why does she owe any lesser professional duty to President Trump for whom she agreed to act as Attorney General?

I have thought over the last 8 years that many of the people running our government under 0bama were rank amateurs, much like their boss.  This is the action of someone without a deep understanding of the the requirements and limits of her job, and who thinks her own opinion and feelings ...um....trump the limits and responsibilities of her position.

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2017, 04:50:29 pm »
I have thought over the last 8 years that many of the people running our government under 0bama were rank amateurs, much like their boss.  This is the action of someone without a deep understanding of the the requirements and limits of her job, and who thinks her own opinion and feelings ...um....trump the limits and responsibilities of her position.

I think it is very safe to say that every political appointment made by Obama was made without regard to any actual qualifications to do the job!  Being a loyal Aprichick was all that was all that was necessary!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2017, 05:28:33 pm »
I think it is very safe to say that every political appointment made by Obama was made without regard to any actual qualifications to do the job!  Being a loyal Aprichick was all that was all that was necessary!

Seems to me every president  in my recent memory has made appointments or nominations without regard to qualifications and competence.  Trump is no different. 

As to Obama, his nominees and appointees all had to have the same agenda.  There is definitely a pattern of corruption throughout every department, agency and bureau.  They all had to be lawless because lawlessness creates chaos and chaos leads to revolution.  This was the goal -- a revolution to destroy America as we know it and create in its stead a socialist utopia headed by a dictator. 

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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2017, 05:34:47 pm »
Seems to me every president  in my recent memory has made appointments or nominations without regard to qualifications and competence.  Trump is no different.

I strongly disagree!

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As to Obama, his nominees and appointees all had to have the same agenda.  There is definitely a pattern of corruption throughout every department, agency and bureau.  They all had to be lawless because lawlessness creates chaos and chaos leads to revolution.  This was the goal -- a revolution to destroy America as we know it and create in its stead a socialist utopia headed by a dictator.

I strongly agree!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

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Re: Lynch: Yates displayed 'unshakeable integrity' in defying Trump
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2017, 01:50:48 am »
Read this!

http://www.libertylawsite.org/2017/02/01/acting-attorney-general-yates-and-the-decline-of-civic-norms/

Excerpt:

The Department of Justice defends legislation and presidential actions if there is a reasonable basis in law to do so. No Attorney General has ever taken the position that he will defend such actions only if he is confident that they are legal and only if he believes they are just.  For good reason. The Department of Justice in litigation acts a lawyer, not a policy maker. And yet, as Jack Goldsmith has shown, the standard Sally Yates articulated for defending the President’s executive order on immigration was at odds with the traditional standard: she declined to defend because she was not confident that the order was legal and thought it unjust.
And beyond her failure to follow standards, she grandstanded. She did not approach the President with any concerns she had, offering to resign if they could not be met. Instead, she wrote a letter to the Department of Justice without consulting the President and allowed it to be leaked it to the press.  Would she have ever treated President Obama like this on an issue on which she had reservations? Why does she owe any lesser professional duty to President Trump for whom she agreed to act as Attorney General?
All power in the Executive Branch is as per Constitution, in a single man, the President.  He may delegate, but there is no way he would have delegated the power to over-ride and EO.

What she did was simply unconstitutional and without any authority and she had only one choice to make - Resign.  So she was fired instead of making that choice.
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