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Maybe make them copy it several times on a blackboard?

Tempting thought but that wouldn't necessarily prove they'd actually read it. ;)


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Good concept.

I wouldn't make a blanket EO on it, though. 

I'd issue one for each Department, with an expiration date for each.  A different expiration date depending on the Department.

For I can see the one for the EPA lasting much longer than the one for Defense or State.

Nah, no expiration date. Don't give the bastards any kind of out or hope. ;)


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I was not aware that "Conservative bedrock" included rule by sweeping executive orders.

To Make America Safe Again? 

While fourteen  departments are standing around meeting and getting estimates, Trump's already got the plumber on site.

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I just get sick of seeing the 4 year dance of the 'Fairweather'. You stood by your guy and I stood against. Those are solid convictions, right or wrong regardless of who won or lost. But as usual, the final stretch converts that got the man elected have no room to suddenly complain when he does whatever. And as usual, they are the first to clutch pearls when they get what they voted for.

I didn't sign up with the notion I'd be agreeing with him on everything.

But so far, I wouldn't have changed a thing.
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I was not aware that "Conservative bedrock" included rule by sweeping executive orders.

and tax hikes and cuddling with Russia and huge spending sprees

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and tax hikes and cuddling with Russia and huge spending sprees

...okay.  So, maybe I overshot a little.    :laugh:

That spending spree is hopefully going to lock up the union vote for the mid-terms.  So, it's a money well-spent.   
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Nah, no expiration date. Don't give the bastards any kind of out or hope. ;)

The end result is that you have no regulations.

Which means things like standardized weights and measures disappear.  And your cellphone stops working as anyone can broadcast on any frequency they choose, including your phone's.

And so on and so forth.

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The end result is that you have no regulations.

Which means things like standardized weights and measures disappear.  And your cellphone stops working as anyone can broadcast on any frequency they choose, including your phone's.

And so on and so forth.
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The end result is that you have no regulations.

Not if they really keep to the two regs out for every one reg in. It could provoke a needed streamlining
in the regs to where what's absolutely necessary stays (underline that, gang) and what really isn't,
doesn't. Or, it could provoke (what do you know) the reasonable restoration of the states' Tenth
Amendment prerogatives.

I don't think anyone would disagree about standardised weights and measures, to name one you
mentioned, but isn't it so that the federal government has busied itself far too long in regulating
things it really does have no business regulating as they have?


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Not if they really keep to the two regs out for every one reg in. It could provoke a needed streamlining
in the regs to where what's absolutely necessary stays (underline that, gang) and what really isn't,
doesn't. Or, it could provoke (what do you know) the reasonable restoration of the states' Tenth
Amendment prerogatives.

I don't think anyone would disagree about standardised weights and measures, to name one you
mentioned, but isn't it so that the federal government has busied itself far too long in regulating
things it really does have no business regulating as they have?

My point is that without an expiration date (or a set number of regulations that need to be cut before a review of the EO occurs), there is only one outcome.

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Not if they really keep to the two regs out for every one reg in. It could provoke a needed streamlining
in the regs to where what's absolutely necessary stays (underline that, gang) and what really isn't,
doesn't. Or, it could provoke (what do you know) the reasonable restoration of the states' Tenth
Amendment prerogatives.

The point is, who chooses which regulations? The establishment, bureaucratic regulators? No doubt they will pick ones that will embarrass or harm the country the most if repealed.

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Sounds good to me.  I imagine it does to small business owners, as well.

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The point is, who chooses which regulations? The establishment, bureaucratic regulators? No doubt they will pick ones that will embarrass or harm the country the most if repealed.

Your post made me think.

They could just combine the two 'cut' regulations into the new one (section one for the new regulations, sections two and three for the old 'cut' ones).
« Last Edit: January 31, 2017, 01:08:40 am by HonestJohn »

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Still waiting for executive amnesty and the ObamaCare fines to be revoked.

@geronl

We all should keep an eye on that.  Obamacare was supposed to be revoked on the first day, wasn't it?

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@CatherineofAragon

I made a near identical prediction the day after Romney tanked 12 in an\ post-mortem email I sent to a couple Freepers and others.

Some things Stevie Wonder could see coming. But the 'know betters' suffer a particularly idiotic form of intentional blindness. Regardless, they can't escape the consequence of their actions.

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Well, I bow down to you both because I didn't see it coming.  I was pretty naive about FR when I signed up there, and for a long time afterward. 

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We all should keep an eye on that.  Obamacare was supposed to be revoked on the first day, wasn't it?

I'm holding off on filing taxes until he abolishes the Obamacare fine. :p

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We all should keep an eye on that.  Obamacare was supposed to be revoked on the first day, wasn't it?

   All the EO's and regulations in obummercare will give these regulating zealots plenty of room to work with. 
   I think  @CatherineofAragon the GOP house is getting 'wobbly' on that repeal/replace thingee, they are scared to death of RyanCare, as they should be.  obummer screwed it up so bad we just can't go back to the way it was without a lot of pain, apparently.
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   All the EO's and regulations in obummercare will give these regulating zealots plenty of room to work with. 
   I think  @CatherineofAragon the GOP house is getting 'wobbly' on that repeal/replace thingee, they are scared to death of RyanCare, as they should be.  obummer screwed it up so bad we just can't go back to the way it was without a lot of pain, apparently.

The problem is Americans are too weak to deal with the pain they created for themselves in the voting booth. They wanted to 'win' with Democrats in GOP clothing and now they have a spineless GOP for their trouble.

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  obummer screwed it up so bad we just can't go back to the way it was without a lot of pain, apparently.

ObamaCare banned new (or expansion of existing) physician-owned hospitals, that one provision could easily and painlessly be removed.
There are probably a lot of things like that which would be simple to undo.

Subsidies for the health insurance companies need to be undone, mandates and fines need to be undone, forced coverage for all kinds of crap need to be undone.

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ObamaCare banned new (or expansion of existing) physician-owned hospitals, that one provision could easily and painlessly be removed.
There are probably a lot of things like that which would be simple to undo.

Subsidies for the health insurance companies need to be undone, mandates and fines need to be undone, forced coverage for all kinds of crap need to be undone.

   I agree @geronl alot of that was EO's, just like DACA and DAPA (still online), what's the hold up, I know Price is not seated yet but Kelly is, he campaigned on this, maybe I'm just to damn impatient.
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   I agree @geronl alot of that was EO's, just like DACA and DAPA (still online), what's the hold up, I know Price is not seated yet but Kelly is, he campaigned on this, maybe I'm just to damn impatient.


Same as ever. The GOP promises anything we want to hear to get rubes to elect them, then they find reasons to welch. Been that way on Obamacare from day 1.

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   I agree @geronl alot of that was EO's, just like DACA and DAPA (still online), what's the hold up, I know Price is not seated yet but Kelly is, he campaigned on this, maybe I'm just to damn impatient.

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Seems to me they can only do so many, so fast, while ensuring that they do it right.
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Yes, but regulations have to be supported by actual laws

Actually the other way around. A law gets passed, then the agencies go hog wild writing regulations to implement what they feel the sense of the law was/is.

The agencies make regulations, and the agencies can be directed to roll them back.
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Still waiting for executive amnesty and the ObamaCare fines to be revoked.

ObamaCare fines happened day one.  Anything will now be construed as a 'hardship' on your tax form.
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Actually the other way around. A law gets passed, then the agencies go hog wild writing regulations to implement what they feel the sense of the law was/is.

The agencies make regulations, and the agencies can be directed to roll them back.

Hmmmmm . . . makes it tempting to say (hell, it should be said, and often!), there oughta notta be a law. ;)
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