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Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« on: January 30, 2017, 05:19:48 pm »

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U.S. Senators Marco Rubio (R-FL) and Tim Scott (R-SC) issued the following joint statement regarding the president's executive order:

After reviewing the recent Executive Orders, it is clear to us that some of what is being said and reported about the scope and implications of these measures is misleading. However, it is also clear that the manner in which these measures were crafted and implemented have greatly contributed to the confusion, anxiety and uncertainty of the last few days.

We generally support additional vetting for many of those entering our country from nations where the United States has identified there are serious concerns regarding terrorist activities and planning. But given the broad scope and nature of these policy changes, we have some unanswered questions and concerns.

We are seeking clarity on the changes to the Visa Waiver program, which is critical to the economies of our respective states.

And we are uneasy about the potential impact of these measures on our military and our diplomatic personnel abroad, as well as those who put their lives on the line to work with us.

We are both committed to doing what we must to keep America safe. We are equally committed to the defense of religious liberty and our tradition of providing refuge to those fleeing persecution. Like so many Americans, we are both guided by our belief that when we stand before our Creator to face judgment, He will say that “to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me."

That is why we intend to do all we can to both keep America safe, and keep America special.

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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2017, 06:29:05 pm »
Meet Little Marco, the new McCain.
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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #2 on: January 30, 2017, 07:02:24 pm »
Meet Little Marco, the new McCain.

Really?

What about Tim Scott?

You'll notice this isn't a negative statement they issued, right?

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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2017, 07:04:14 pm »
Meet Little Marco, the new McCain.


The act is old
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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2017, 07:05:07 pm »

The act is old

It is also unusually reactionary considering it wasn't a negative statement.

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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #5 on: January 30, 2017, 07:10:27 pm »
It is also unusually reactionary considering it wasn't a negative statement.


I know.. I didn't find anything wrong with it.
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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2017, 07:14:06 pm »
Meet Little Marco, the new McCain.

I don't know. There isn't anything wrong with this joint statement. It's a good idea that was poorly executed. The President should have properly explained this in an Oval Office address while it was being implemented to set the narrative. 

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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2017, 07:21:42 pm »
Good statement on their parts.

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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2017, 10:20:18 pm »
Really?

What about Tim Scott?

You'll notice this isn't a negative statement they issued, right?
Don't know enough on Scott.

Did you read everything after the word "however"?

What DT is doing is exactly what should be done: shut down the actions by EO that Obama created.

Congress should be involved in the decisions, not a unilateral decision made by POTUS.  And that is what DT did, let Congress decide.

Marco and Scott are playing before the media instead of doing some debating with colleagues in their chamber and practicing passing laws.
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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2017, 10:27:48 pm »
The President should have properly explained this in an Oval Office address while it was being implemented to set the narrative.

"This executive order is a limited, temporary ban on refugees from terrorist countries..." as it says on the card Conway handed him, then he is off to the races on his own, "You know I have a very good brain and I hold good conversations with it, literally, and it says 'Donald', because it talks all formal like that, it goes 'you did a good job with this, but you should explain it better.' and I answer back, 'Define explain?' and it says 'tell people what's in it and whats it do' and I says 'oh. Good idea!'... "

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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2017, 11:24:32 pm »
The President should have properly explained this in an Oval Office address while it was being implemented to set the narrative.
The narrative is pretty simple:  Let Congress decide.
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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2017, 11:31:54 pm »
They are right.

As I posted on another thread - It's not what Trump did, but the clumsy amateurish way he did it. The EO going into immediate effect caught the airlines, airports, homeland security, Customs,  and innocent people traveling legally off-guard.

A future date should have been set, and the policy clearly communicated on what it would mean for travelers from these countries along with procedures to follow for those who process people entering the country through Customs. And he should have very clearly and passionately explain it as a continuation of policy set forth by the Obama administration, with added safeguards and security measures this administration feels necessary to prevent entry by anyone meaning to do us harm, and those traveling with appropriate travel and entry documentation such as VISAs and green cards will be processed through as quickly as possible, but to expect much greater security levels at the point of entry.   A total ban of document holding travelers should not have been part of this order unless their was an imminent threat.
 
As far as refugees i have no issue with a 90 day freeze, but again set a day so people are not caught mid flight, and have time to get refunds for tickets purchased.
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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2017, 11:36:38 pm »
The narrative is pretty simple:  Let Congress decide.

Why? By the time this EO expires, congress will still be trying to draft the pork laden legislation. 

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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2017, 12:14:17 am »
Why? By the time this EO expires, congress will still be trying to draft the pork laden legislation.
So your mind is made up that we just get ruled by a President by Executive fiat.

Not what we should be doing, for sure.
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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2017, 12:25:27 am »
The narrative is pretty simple:  Let Congress decide.

Where the hell has Congress been for the last 16 years?

The POTUS has the right under the law to do this ..... Congress has proven itself useless and needs to get out of the way.

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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2017, 12:28:46 am »
Congress has proven itself useless and needs to get out of the way.


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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2017, 01:01:55 am »
Meet Little Marco, the new McCain.

@IsailedawayfromFR

Why?  Because he isn't giving Trump 100% effusive praise?

Are we going to be like TOS---a politician does something we disagree with so we instantly despise him and come up with derogatory nicknames? 

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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2017, 01:03:05 am »
Really?

What about Tim Scott?

You'll notice this isn't a negative statement they issued, right?

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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2017, 01:05:54 am »
@AbaraXas

Nuance is dead.

He is? That sucks. I loved his taco truck.

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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2017, 01:06:19 am »
Don't know enough on Scott.

Did you read everything after the word "however"?

What DT is doing is exactly what should be done: shut down the actions by EO that Obama created.

Congress should be involved in the decisions, not a unilateral decision made by POTUS.  And that is what DT did, let Congress decide.

Marco and Scott are playing before the media instead of doing some debating with colleagues in their chamber and practicing passing laws.

Would you feel better about their statement if they had used their Twitter accounts?
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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2017, 01:08:58 am »
Meet Little Marco, the new McCain.

What factually wrong with what they said?

Please show us the inaccuracies.
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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2017, 01:09:04 am »
Congress has proven itself useless and needs to get out of the way.

Yearning for the simplicity of dictatorship are you?
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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2017, 01:10:06 am »
Yearning for the simplicity of dictatorship are you?

Clearly...
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Re: Marco Rubio and Tim Scott Joint Statement on Executive Orders
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2017, 01:12:47 am »
What factually wrong with what they said?

Please show us the inaccuracies.

They misused a past participle.

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« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2017, 01:13:27 am »
Yearning for the simplicity of dictatorship are you?


Yup.