Trump puts Bannon on security council, dropping joint chiefs

[HonestJohn]

National Security Council

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_National_Security_Council

The National Security Council is chaired by the President. Its members are the Vice President (statutory), the Secretary of State (statutory), the Secretary of Defense (statutory), the Secretary of Energy (statutory), the National Security Advisor (non-statutory), and the Secretary of the Treasury (non-statutory).

The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is the statutory military advisor to the Council, the Director of National Intelligence is the statutory intelligence advisor, and the Director of National Drug Control Policy is the statutory drug control policy advisor. The Chief of Staff to the President, Counsel to the President, and the Assistant to the President for Economic Policy are also regularly invited to attend NSC meetings. The Attorney General, the Director of the Office of Management and Budget and The Director of the Central Intelligence Agency are invited to attend meetings pertaining to their responsibilities. The heads of other executive departments and agencies, as well as other senior officials, are invited to attend meetings of the NSC when appropriate.

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Kinda hard to be an advisor, as directed by law, if you aren't able to be in the same room as those you advise.

Just sayin'.

[jpsb]

National Security Council

Kinda hard to be an advisor, as directed by law, if you aren't able to be in the same room as those you advise.

Just sayin'.

When then discussion concerns the military the CoJCoS will be there. The only thing that changed is he is not required to be there for every meeting.

[jpsb]

Can you imagine what our side would be screaming if Obama got rid of the Joint Chiefs and put Valerie Jarrett in their place.

Valerie Jarrett spend 7 years as an officer in the US Navy and was appoint special assistant to the Navys' top admiral? I am impressed.

[ABX]

Valerie Jarrett spend 7 years as an officer in the US Navy and was appoint special assistant to the Navys' top admiral? I am impressed.

Neither Jarrett or Bannon are currently in service. Bannon hasn't served in almost 40 years. He spent more time writing sitcoms than serving, and that was more recent.

The Joint Cheif's primary duty is advising on current deployment, intelligence, and capabilities.  None of that information Bannon is currently an expert on. He writes headlines. You can't have someone advising on how to deploy based on current capabilities by someone who is not vested in the least in current capabilities.

[truth_seeker]

That is not the job of the National Security Council.

I say it is a component of any war consideration.

[goatprairie]

Stephen K. Bannon, a conservative business mogul best known for his work as chairman of the Breitbart News website, spent seven years in the Navy as a surface warfare officer. His military career included a stint at the Pentagon, where he served as a special assistant to the Navy's top admiral.

http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/trumps-controversial-new-adviser-promoted-conservatism-even-in-the-navy

Good for Bannon for serving. Does what he did make him more qualified than a top admiral to consult Trump on nat. security?
That's if this story is true..this story is from the BBC. Maybe we should wait for further confirmation.

[Chosen Daughter]

Steve Bannon is Trump's POLITICAL strategist, responsible for making Trump look good.

Are you OK with political considerations being included in national security discussions and decisions? Had enough of that crap in the last 8 years.

What the heck is going on here?  Is Trump falling apart with mistrust of the very people that he himself appointed?

[txradioguy]

Stephen K. Bannon, a conservative business mogul best known for his work as chairman of the Breitbart News website, spent seven years in the Navy as a surface warfare officer. His military career included a stint at the Pentagon, where he served as a special assistant to the Navy's top admiral.

http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/trumps-controversial-new-adviser-promoted-conservatism-even-in-the-navy

Doing a tour at the Pentagon is a check the box thing for an officer if he/she wants to get promoted.

Do you know how many officers out there can make the same claim?

Fetching coffee or being a dog robber for a Flag Officer doesn't qualify you to be on the NDC over a 4 Star General.

[EC]

Doing a tour at the Pentagon is a check the box thing for an officer if he/she wants to get promoted.

Do you know how many officers out there can make the same claim?

Fetching coffee or being a dog robber for a Flag Officer doesn't qualify you to be on the NDC over a 4 Star General.

You'll note the people who aren't bothered by political input into national security and military subjects AIN'T the ones who have to go out and make things work DESPITE the damned RoE.

[Smokin Joe]

And not a few on this forum, jumping at every chance to voice their #nevertrump-SJW tendencies.

Often well before learning enough of the facts, to not make fools of themselves.

BTW entries by designated non-citizens HAVE BEEN BLOCKED before, most recently during the just completed Obama admin.

Don't rely on the media to inform you accurately from the outset, however.

SJW tendencies? WTF? You just lost credibility with that BS.

[montanajoe]

SJW tendencies? WTF? You just lost credibility with that BS.

@Smokin Joe

I'm not up on the terminology the Trumpsters currently use but what is SJW? and if it's a tendency does it require a medical procedure? or one of those nature over nurture things?

Is Society of Jesuit Wannabee's close?

[HonestJohn]

@Smokin Joe

I'm not up on the terminology the Trumpsters currently use but what is SJW? and if it's a tendency does it require a medical procedure? or one of those nature over nurture things?

Is Society of Jesuit Wannabee's close?

Social Justice Warrior.

To the LOLLIPOPs, if you aren't an annoying @-hole, then you are a 'precious snowflake' deserving of scorn and needing to be kicked.

[Smokin Joe]

@Smokin Joe

I'm not up on the terminology the Trumpsters currently use but what is SJW? and if it's a tendency does it require a medical procedure? or one of those nature over nurture things?

Is Society of Jesuit Wannabee's close?

Liberals: "Social Justice Warrior" Think Black Lives Matter and crap like that.

[montanajoe]

Liberals: "Social Justice Warrior" Think Black Lives Matter and crap like that.

@Smokiin Joe
@truth_seeker

WTF..old TS must be having a long day..don't always agree with him but its always been on issues,,,guess its tough defending Trump as he presents a moving target...

[txradioguy]

You'll note the people who aren't bothered by political input into national security and military subjects AIN'T the ones who have to go out and make things work DESPITE the damned RoE.

So I see. Real easy to make political decisions she you don't have to go out and execute them in real life.

[geronl]

I say it is a component of any war consideration.

That component comes from the White House and State Department. Do you think we also need Zampolits on every ship and submarine and in  every army unit?

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Social Justice Warrior.

To the LOLLIPOPs, if you aren't an annoying @-hole, then you are a 'precious snowflake' deserving of scorn and needing to be kicked.

What is a lollipop?

[HonestJohn]

What is a lollipop?

Legions of Oppressed, Loyal Laborers, Industrious Peasants and Other Proletariat.

It sums up how Trump loyalists view themselves, the the 'salt-of-the-earth' oppressed masses 'taking back' *their* country.  Which is pretty much the 1917 Oktober revolutionaries...

[Smokin Joe]

Legions of Oppressed, Loyal Laborers, Industrious Peasants and Other Proletariat.

It sums up how Trump loyalists view themselves, the the 'salt-of-the-earth' oppressed masses 'taking back' *their* country.  Which is pretty much the 1917 Oktober revolutionaries...

And here I thought you just meant...

[TomSea]

More like Sherman's March To The Sea, Yanks are going to win it big time.  And they are doing it for moral reasons and the whole country will win.

Those I question are the ones who have to try to put it in little boxes to make it rhyme with reason, with only the logic they've been exposed to.