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Offline Weird Tolkienish Figure

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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #77 on: January 27, 2017, 01:24:36 am »
Quote from: skeeter on January 27, 2017, 01:23:47 am
Yet you critique my reply.


Feel free to answer my question at your leisure.
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #78 on: January 27, 2017, 01:25:17 am »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 27, 2017, 01:24:36 am

Feel free to answer my question at your leisure.


Yeah, wait for it.
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #79 on: January 27, 2017, 01:26:40 am »
Quote from: skeeter on January 27, 2017, 01:25:17 am

Yeah, wait for it.


How will Mexico pay for the wall if Americans don't buy Mexican products and don't pay the tariff?
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #80 on: January 27, 2017, 01:29:08 am »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 27, 2017, 01:26:40 am

How will Mexico pay for the wall if Americans don't buy Mexican products and don't pay the tariff?

Are you serious?

How do you think Mexican businesses will react when facing the possibility of being cut off from the American market?

We have the leverage Its time we used it to our benefit.

Have you ever been involved in a negotiation?
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #81 on: January 27, 2017, 01:30:29 am »
Quote from: skeeter on January 27, 2017, 01:29:08 am
Are you serious?

How do you think Mexican businesses will react when facing the possibility of being cut off from the American market?

We have the leverage Its time we used it to our benefit.


So you actually think Mexico will pay for the wall?
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #82 on: January 27, 2017, 01:32:47 am »
Quote from: truth_seeker on January 27, 2017, 12:23:15 am
Stunning proof that this remains a #nevertrump site.

Item after item as we are nearly finished with the fourth day, get criticized. FOUTH DAY.

So called Conservatives and Republicans have asked for change for years, yet when it comes in boatloads, the uproar against change is amazing.

More and more proof that "establishment Republicans" and their entrenched status quo, are a big part of the problem.

I'm all for change.  I want this President to succeed.   But picking an unnecessary fight with Mexico on his fourth day in office is idiocy.

Trump's Achilles heel has never been his populism, it's been his temperament.   He refusal to stop tweeting is ridiculous. and given his present power, dangerous.   
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #83 on: January 27, 2017, 01:41:20 am »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 27, 2017, 01:26:40 am

How will Mexico pay for the wall if Americans don't buy Mexican products and don't pay the tariff?

Boeing will get parts manufactured for pennies on the dollar in Mexico, some dude stateside will duct tape them together with red white and blue tape and some ill informed airline will buy it like Air Gambia. Since Boeing is passing the 20% along, the Gambians will pay it.
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #84 on: January 27, 2017, 01:43:56 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 27, 2017, 01:32:47 am
I'm all for change.  I want this President to succeed.   But picking an unnecessary fight with Mexico on his fourth day in office is idiocy.

Trump's Achilles heel has never been his populism, it's been his temperament.   He refusal to stop tweeting is ridiculous. and given his present power, dangerous.

That's where I'm at. I didn't vote for him but now that he's in I hope he is a success, and in four years I can say I was wrong about him. Some of what he has done this week I think is fantastic, but on some other things Im reminded why I didn't like him in the primary.
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #85 on: January 27, 2017, 01:44:50 am »
Quote from: skeeter on January 27, 2017, 01:09:56 am
Assuming the American consumer has no choice but to buy Mexican stuff.

But they do have a choice.

Well if they make that choice Mexico still won't be "paying for the wall" will they.
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #86 on: January 27, 2017, 01:46:00 am »
   All the people keeping their old cars alive with Mexican starters, alternators every 12 months are gonna pay
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #87 on: January 27, 2017, 01:46:01 am »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on January 27, 2017, 01:30:29 am

So you actually think Mexico will pay for the wall?

I think if played properly they will.

Making up 20% of the world's GDP the american economy & US consumer has been the engine of the world's economies for decades.

We have a right to insist that other nations wanting to play in our sandbox not take advantage of their relationship with us as Mexico has. If our threat to level tariffs if they do not accommodate our request can be credibly made you can bet they'll come around.

Its not as if it represents a financial hardship for them.

Personally, with our current debt of 19 trillion I could give a crap who pays the measly 20 billion for the wall as long as it gets built.
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #88 on: January 27, 2017, 01:50:41 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on January 27, 2017, 01:41:20 am
Boeing will get parts manufactured for pennies on the dollar in Mexico, some dude stateside will duct tape them together with red white and blue tape and some ill informed airline will buy it like Air Gambia. Since Boeing is passing the 20% along, the Gambians will pay it.

And when Boeing products cost more they won't sell as many. More jobs to Airbus, Brazil, etc. We are not an island that can live in isolation.

Trade wars always result in less trade and less overall economic activity for everyone.
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #89 on: January 27, 2017, 01:51:16 am »
Quote from: Jazzhead on January 27, 2017, 01:32:47 am
I'm all for change.  I want this President to succeed.   But picking an unnecessary fight with Mexico on his fourth day in office is idiocy.

Trump's Achilles heel has never been his populism, it's been his temperament.   He refusal to stop tweeting is ridiculous. and given his present power, dangerous.

What you call "picking a fight with Mexico" I call following through on his campaign position, which is consistent with the border barrier conservatives and Republicans have been calling for, for decades.

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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #90 on: January 27, 2017, 01:51:20 am »
What about a 20% transaction fee on all monies sent back to Mexico from our illegal alien 'breadwinners'?
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #91 on: January 27, 2017, 02:04:33 am »
Quote from: truth_seeker on January 27, 2017, 01:51:16 am
What you call "picking a fight with Mexico" I call following through on his campaign position, which is consistent with the border barrier conservatives and Republicans have been calling for, for decades.

A tariff and a wall are not the same thing. This thread is about a tariff. The only thing it has to do with "The Wall" is the illusion of making "Mexico pay for it".
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #92 on: January 27, 2017, 02:05:47 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on January 27, 2017, 01:51:20 am
What about a 20% transaction fee on all monies sent back to Mexico from our illegal alien 'breadwinners'?

Won't get much of an argument from me on that one. I think Western Union is doing close to that now...
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #93 on: January 27, 2017, 02:34:53 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on January 26, 2017, 11:09:47 pm
Oh no. Sombrero prices are going up......and with Cinco de Mayo right around the corner.

Cinco de Mayo? That's months away! How can you even worry about that when Taco Tuesday happens every week?! Think about the children!
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #94 on: January 27, 2017, 02:36:38 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on January 27, 2017, 01:51:20 am
What about a 20% transaction fee on all monies sent back to Mexico from our illegal alien 'breadwinners'?

There is a federal law regarding withholding, for real estate transactions involving foreign entities.

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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #95 on: January 27, 2017, 02:41:39 am »
We're always going to have a trade deficit with Mexico simply because we're a wealthier nation.

Mexican peasants aren't buying a lot of Cadillacs.
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #96 on: January 27, 2017, 02:49:48 am »
Quote from: DB on January 27, 2017, 01:50:41 am
And when Boeing products cost more they won't sell as many. More jobs to Airbus, Brazil, etc. We are not an island that can live in isolation.

Trade wars always result in less trade and less overall economic activity for everyone.

We, Boeing  already charge too much, which tops the list of customers complaints. Airbus undercuts us every chance they get, and now with China, Russia, and Canada getting into the competitive size jet manufacturing, competition for market share only gets tougher.
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #97 on: January 27, 2017, 02:57:22 am »
@SirLinksALot

Just thought you ought to know that the headline on the post that initiated this thread is a total lie and has never been said by anyone!

The closest thing to it was a comment in today's press briefing that mentioned this as one possible thing under consideration to make Mexico pay for the wall. 
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #98 on: January 27, 2017, 05:00:09 am »
Quote from: Bigun on January 27, 2017, 02:57:22 am
@SirLinksALot

Just thought you ought to know that the headline on the post that initiated this thread is a total lie and has never been said by anyone!

The closest thing to it was a comment in today's press briefing that mentioned this as one possible thing under consideration to make Mexico pay for the wall.

It has been repeated by other sources. See here:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-suggests-20-percent-tax-on-mexican-imports-to-pay-for-the-wall/article/2613078

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And on Air Force One, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Trump favors reform that would boost taxes on imports. The House GOP plan would impose a 20 percent tax on imports — not just from Mexico, but all other countries — and Spicer made it clear the White House is looking to use revenues generated from Mexican imports to fund the wall.
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Re: White House press secretary says border wall will be funded by 20% import tax on Mexican goods
« Reply #99 on: January 27, 2017, 05:08:46 am »
Quote from: SirLinksALot on January 27, 2017, 05:00:09 am
It has been repeated by other sources. See here:

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/white-house-suggests-20-percent-tax-on-mexican-imports-to-pay-for-the-wall/article/2613078

Regardless it was never said!

It was merely mentioned as one of many possible ways to make Mexico pay for the wall. Never said it was THE way it was going to be done!
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