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SOURCE: ZERO HEDGE

URL: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-03/new-york-governor-proposes-free-tuition-public-universities



There is little doubt that easy access to federally subsidized student loans has contributed to the astronomical increase in the cost of attending college in the United States.  After all, what 18 year old would turn down $200,000 in free money to party for 4 years?  As an added bonus, when you figure out upon graduation that your degree in anthropology if fairly worthless, you can always just move back in with mom and force taxpayers to pick up your debt burden.  Anything less would be a substantial "triggering" event and we just can't have that.

As we noted roughly a year ago, the amount of student debt outstanding is on track to reach nearly $17 trillion by 2030...which is clearly enough artificial demand to send the price of almost any commodity product soaring.



Well, apparently New York's Governor doesn't think that misinformed government policies are doing nearly enough to drive up college tuition costs.  As a result, he has decided to jump on the Bernie Sanders bandwagon with a new proposal that would provide free tuition at public state and city colleges to any student whose parents earn less than $125,000.

As the New York Times notes, Cuomo's plan could apply to as many as 1 million New York families though it was not "immediately clear how the program would be paid for"...which is just a minor detail anyway.

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Mr. Cuomo hopes for a quick start for his idea, with a three-year rollout beginning in the fall, though it will require legislative approval, a potential snag when the governor and lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have been at odds over a pay raise and other issues.

It was not immediately clear how the program would be paid for, though the administration said the state already provided nearly $1 billion in support through its tuition assistance program; those awards are capped at $5,165, and many of the grants are smaller.

If the plan is approved, the Cuomo administration estimates the program would allow nearly a million New York families with college-age children, or independent adults, to qualify.

Current tuition at four-year State University of New York schools for state residents is $6,470; at two-year community colleges the cost is $4,350. Costs for City University of New York schools are approximately the same.

Of course, "free tuition" isn't really free and is estimated to cost New York taxpayers roughly $163mm by the time it's fully implemented in 2019.

Oh well, we guess this is just a simplification in the process...why go through the bother of underwriting student loans just to have taxpayers pick up the bill later anyway?  With the governor's plan, you just go straight to taxpayers for a handout upon enrollment.  Moreover, taxpayers save on the interest costs associated the defaulted student loans so this is really a win for everyone.

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; at two-year community colleges the cost is $4,350
To put that in perspective, when I was going to college a decade ago, that was the price for a four-year university, while community college cost about half that. Meanwhile, those same colleges still want more and more. Is it any wonder why our colleges and universities are churning out snowflakes? The colleges and universities have never been told no themselves!
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They way I figure it, if the gummit gives me a free Cadillac that will create more jobs in Mexico and we just cut out the middle man.  Then I can trade that in on a nice new American made BMW, dive it to New York and get me some of that free college stuff they talk about.  When I graduate with my degree in Early Russian Language Studies, I'll just drive myself out to California and complain about not being able to get a real job.  Nancy Pelosi says she'll hook me up with a free electric car that runs off of sun power.  I'll just sell my BMW so I have beer money, park my free car in the sun so it recharges, and have myself a few cold ones on the beach.

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When a politician promises to provide any benefit as "free", he is admitting three things: one, that he is a certain liar; two, that he is amenable to theft, provided he will benefit from his promotion of it; and three, that he believes his audience to be substantially composed of fools.
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This type of solid program is the reason that people are flooding into NY from other states.....wait. People are flooding out of NY State because it is a wasteland? Never mind.

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The trouble with free is you have no skin in the game.  Easy to walk away.  Liberals never get it.

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with Trump wanting to forgive student debt, it's pretty much the same thing

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with Trump wanting to forgive student debt, it's pretty much the same thing

Is there a policy position somewhere from the Trump team that tells us this?

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In many countries, providing university educations to the citizenry is regarded as a public good and is financed from the public purse.  However, in those countries, there are serious entrance exams that ensure only serious students benefit from this public largess.  Will SUNY and CUNY be introducing analogues of the entrance exams for the University of Tokyo or the Sorbonne as part of this program?  If so, I could get behind it.  No?  Another idiotic coastal socialist boondoggle.
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Will SUNY and CUNY be introducing analogues of the entrance exams for the University of Tokyo or the Sorbonne as part of this program?  If so, I could get behind it.  No?  Another idiotic coastal socialist boondoggle.

I thought we already have the SAT and ACT?

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Who was the fool to bust his ass for 6 years swinging a spiking maul on the track gang to save to put himself through Engineering School?

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Is there a policy position somewhere from the Trump team that tells us this?

Yup.  Effectively waiving repayment of much of student debt:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2016/10/13/trump-just-laid-out-a-pretty-radical-student-debt-plan  The responsible get left paying the bills, yet again.
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I thought we already have the SAT and ACT?


Maybe if one had to get a combined SAT score of 1370 or better to get the free education, it might come close to having a similar effect to the entrance exams in countries where a free university education is commonly provided.  Of course, that will be a non-starter since there would instantly be a "disparate impact" law-suit on behalf of members of subcultures which devalue academic attainment but are the beneficiaries of Democrat identity politics.
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