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200 red winged blackbirds fall from the sky and die in N.J.
« on: December 27, 2016, 05:16:31 pm »
200 red-winged blackbirds fall from the sky and die in New Jersey

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No one knows why more than 200 red-winged blackbirds fell from the sky in South Jersey.

Just ahead of Thanksgiving, scores of dead birds rained down on Cumberland County. It was the second time in less than a month that saw birds mysteriously die, with a similar incident occurring in a North Jersey farming area earlier this year.

“They just fell from the sky,”New Jersey Department of Environmental Protection spokesperson Larry Hanja told philly.com.

Following the most recent incident, DEP’s division of Fish and Wildlife cleaned up the birds and collected some to send off to the state lab for necropsy, toxicology and histopathology tests.

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“We did ascertain that the birds suffered trauma and internal bleeding from hitting the ground,” Hanja told the news outlet. “But what made them fall from the sky in the first place ... we can’t say for certain.”

Hanja said experts still can’t fully rule out pesticide poisoning, but testing on wheat seeds from a nearby farm also yielded no answers.

The seed had been treated with the fungicides difenoconazole, mefenoxam and sedaxane as well as the insecticide imidacloprid, but none of those chemicals are harmful to birds, Hanja told philly.com.

 In 2011, an official in India says around 4,000 birds had been culled at a government-run duck farm. Some poultry tested positive for a deadly strain of bird flu, one that can potentially be fatal for humans. The ducks had allegedly drunk water tainted with the deadly flu strain.
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This isn’t the first time birds have rained down on New Jersey — in 2012, a die-off of blackbirds in Millville was traced back to a farmer’s legal use of an avicide. Thanks to their large population, no permit is required for farmers or other landowners to poison blackbirds if they're causing damage.

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Similarly in Beebe, Ark., up to 5,000 red-winged blackbirds fell from the sky in December 2010. Experts speculated the New Year’s fireworks scared them into flying at night — and being poor flyers in the dark lead them to fly into homes, cars and power lines.

But a lack of answers has Cumberland County residents worried the most recent occurrence.

“Out in the country like this, you find dead stuff lying around all the time ... but this was kind of weird,” resident Debbie Hitchner said.

The 32-year-old Jersey resident told philly.com she found half a dozen dead blackbirds in the backyard of her home off Frank Davis Road.

“My dog just kept finding them,” she said, “one after the other.”

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Re: 200 red winged blackbirds fall from the sky and die in N.J.
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2016, 05:17:29 pm »
No jokes about New Jersey….. that would be too easy!

Poor birdies.

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Re: 200 red winged blackbirds fall from the sky and die in N.J.
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2016, 05:29:16 pm »
Small birds are quite delicate. I'm guessing tat something startled them into flight and they collided in the dark. (More often than not these events happen at night)

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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2016, 06:37:26 pm »
Small birds are quite delicate. I'm guessing tat something startled them into flight and they collided in the dark. (More often than not these events happen at night)

Though sometimes, IIRC, folks have seen such events in daylight . . . something like seeing a flock of birds flying along in broad open spaces and then falling more or less at the same time as though zapped by some invisible ray.

Some folks have blamed something like HARP. Supposedly Alaskan HARP has been shut down. But who knows what exotic stuff the military and black ops folks are dinking around with.
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Re: 200 red winged blackbirds fall from the sky and die in N.J.
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2016, 06:44:51 pm »
Some folks have blamed something like HARP. Supposedly Alaskan HARP has been shut down.

Turned over to the university for continued research use.

HAARP's new owner holds open house to prove facility 'is not capable of mind control'
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/science/2016/08/24/haarps-new-owner-holds-open-house-to-prove-facility-is-not-capable-of-mind-control/

http://www.gi.alaska.edu/haarp-0

I had a minor, insignificant role in a follow-up project.

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Re: 200 red winged blackbirds fall from the sky and die in N.J.
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2016, 07:19:45 pm »
Turned over to the university for continued research use.

HAARP's new owner holds open house to prove facility 'is not capable of mind control'
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/science/2016/08/24/haarps-new-owner-holds-open-house-to-prove-facility-is-not-capable-of-mind-control/

http://www.gi.alaska.edu/haarp-0

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What are your thoughts about all the HARP rumors?

I have a decades long family friend . . . who palled around with a couple of guys in the military working at HARP. They insisted it could do some of the things it is accused of doing.
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Re: 200 red winged blackbirds fall from the sky and die in N.J.
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2016, 07:37:19 pm »
What are your thoughts about all the HARP rumors?

Complete nonsense.
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2016, 07:42:59 pm »
Complete nonsense.

Very often the same people who correctly state that they don't believe humans are having a major effect on climate will turn right around and claim that a few Acres of HAARP antennas have wide ranging global effects.

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« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2016, 07:58:48 pm »
Very often the same people who correctly state that they don't believe humans are having a major effect on climate will turn right around and claim that a few Acres of HAARP antennas have wide ranging global effects.

@thackney,

I gather y'all would call all the scientist Tesla stuff utter nonsense, as well. IIRC, he claimed he could split the earth. Not sure what he meant by that.

Though the way the secrecy folks swooped in and cleaned out his office and lab seemed to indicate that THEY didn't think it was all utter nonsense.

Personally, I think that most folks are quite comfortable with a supremely effective reigning amount of normalcy bias.

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Re: 200 red winged blackbirds fall from the sky and die in N.J.
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2016, 08:04:34 pm »
Though sometimes, IIRC, folks have seen such events in daylight . . . something like seeing a flock of birds flying along in broad open spaces and then falling more or less at the same time as though zapped by some invisible ray.

Some folks have blamed something like HARP. Supposedly Alaskan HARP has been shut down. But who knows what exotic stuff the military and black ops folks are dinking around with.

Sudden fall of an entire flock is completely inconsistent with any disease scenario whatsoever.  And it is highly unlikely that birds would die from flying through a toxic cloud that no one on the ground knew about. 

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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2016, 08:08:04 pm »
Sudden fall of an entire flock is completely inconsistent with any disease scenario whatsoever.  And it is highly unlikely that birds would die from flying through a toxic cloud that no one on the ground knew about. 

That's my understanding and perspective, too.

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Re: 200 red winged blackbirds fall from the sky and die in N.J.
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2016, 08:17:00 pm »
@thackney,

I gather y'all would call all the scientist Tesla stuff utter nonsense, as well. IIRC, he claimed he could split the earth. Not sure what he meant by that.

Though the way the secrecy folks swooped in and cleaned out his office and lab seemed to indicate that THEY didn't think it was all utter nonsense.

Personally, I think that most folks are quite comfortable with a supremely effective reigning amount of normalcy bias.

Tesla's wireless energy transmission works.  What almost everyone ignores is how incredibly lossy the system is.  He looked at the amount of energy coming down Niagara Falls and the electrical energy uses of his day and believed those losses didn't matter, given the supply was almost limitless compared to the demand.

Today, that massive energy inefficiency matters a lot.  It mattered enough at the end of Tesla's life to make the power transmission equipment useless.
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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2016, 08:21:26 pm »
Tesla's wireless energy transmission works.  What almost everyone ignores is how incredibly lossy the system is.  He looked at the amount of energy coming down Niagara Falls and the electrical energy uses of his day and believed those losses didn't matter, given the supply was almost limitless compared to the demand.

Today, that massive energy inefficiency matters a lot.  It mattered enough at the end of Tesla's life to make the power transmission equipment useless.

Perhaps you think that the rest of his 'discoveries' turned out to be just as useless.

If so, why their continued very high classification and secrecy by the PTB?
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Re: 200 red winged blackbirds fall from the sky and die in N.J.
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2016, 08:23:18 pm »
Perhaps you think that the rest of his 'discoveries' turned out to be just as useless.

If so, why their continued very high classification and secrecy by the PTB?

I should have known better that to post a response in "Alternate Realities".

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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2016, 10:04:08 pm »
I should have known better that to post a response in "Alternate Realities".

God Bless.

No need to be insulting. We are pretty good at carrying on rational, reasonable, civil and even  polite and caring dialogues here.

It's just the case that we enjoy 'thinking outside the box.'

Maybe you don't believe that it was the flakiest groups and sources who most accurately and earliest predicted  who Hitler was and what he would become and do.

There's a ton of normalcy bias in our era . . . as well as a culture saturated with very deceptive and effective propaganda as well as oceans full of smug arrogance. I don't think those are good foundations for thinking outside the box and preparing for near all, even the most likely scenarios.

I notice that you failed to answer my question about why you thought Tesla's research and findings still carried such a highly classified secrecy protection so many years after he died. Supposedly 50 years is sufficient for declassification by law. But not with his stuff and not with UFO stuff.

Why do you suppose that is? What do you even tell yourself about that?


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Re: 200 red winged blackbirds fall from the sky and die in N.J.
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2016, 10:08:17 pm »
No need to be insulting.

May I suggest you go back and read what I actually wrote, and how you replied to me?
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« Reply #16 on: December 27, 2016, 10:14:59 pm »
May I suggest you go back and read what I actually wrote, and how you replied to me?

I read it 4-5 times before I replied.

I cannot flawlessly read the intents of your heart in your response.

I can, however, with a lot of training and experience  comment on how it came across--particularly, to me. And probably would to a panel of a dozen  psychologists and sociologists.

However, thankfully, it was rather mildly so.

Besides . . . I have hair-trigger sensibilities about such issues with the forum.

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