BREAKING: China JUST Made Unprecidented ‘WAR MOVE’, Obama SILENT… Here’s What We Know

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 December 26, 2016 by Dean James
BREAKING: China JUST Made Unprecidented ‘WAR MOVE’, Obama SILENT… Here’s What We Know
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China is “testing the waters” in a new show of force by breaking out their new aircraft carrier and five other warships. The ships passed by Taiwan and sailed into the contested South China Sea on Monday, Taiwan’s Defense Ministry reported Monday.

FOX reports that China’s Defense Ministry said that the Liaoning carrier had set off for a routine open-sea exercise in the Western Pacific as part of its annual training. But its entering into the politically sensitive South China Sea follows rising tensions between Beijing and Taipei over the status of the self-ruled island.

The ships, led by the Liaoning, sailed past the Pratas Islands, also known as the Dongsha Islands, a Taiwan-controlled atoll in the northern part of the South China Sea, according to Taiwan.

http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2016/12/26/china-war-move/

[endicom]

...Unprecidented...

"Can't anybody here play this game?"

[bigheadfred]

"Can't anybody here play this game?"

Make it up as you go.

[Quix]

December 26, 2016 by Dean James
BREAKING: China JUST Made Unprecidented ‘WAR MOVE’, Obama SILENT… Here’s What We Know
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China is “testing the waters” in a new show of force by breaking out their new aircraft carrier and five other warships. The ships passed by Taiwan and sailed into the contested South China Sea on Monday, Taiwan’s Defense Ministry reported Monday.

FOX reports that China’s Defense Ministry said that the Liaoning carrier had set off for a routine open-sea exercise in the Western Pacific as part of its annual training. But its entering into the politically sensitive South China Sea follows rising tensions between Beijing and Taipei over the status of the self-ruled island.

The ships, led by the Liaoning, sailed past the Pratas Islands, also known as the Dongsha Islands, a Taiwan-controlled atoll in the northern part of the South China Sea, according to Taiwan.

http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2016/12/26/china-war-move/

Cue Dragnet theme . . .  at a bit faster beat . . . and a bit louder volume.

The fires of WW3 are being stoked . . .

[EC]

Unprecedented.

Except for the last time it happened. And the time before that. And the time before that. And .... you get the idea.

[geronl]

there is nothing "unprecedented" happening

[Quix]

Unprecedented.

Except for the last time it happened. And the time before that. And the time before that. And .... you get the idea.

I suppose it depends on one's definition . . .

China hasn't HAD an aircraft carrier to go on such exercises before.

In that sense, it IS unprecedented.

Incremental escalations of small enough steps are usually not seen as escalations by a good percentage of onlookers. China is a master at such . . . . and very very very patient . . . to a point.

[EC]

Principle still applies - when you put on a show of force you lay out the best tea set. That's been the norm since Gilgamesh. China just has a new serving dish to show off this time.

[Quix]

Principle still applies - when you put on a show of force you lay out the best tea set. That's been the norm since Gilgamesh. China just has a new serving dish to show off this time.

Quite so.
Quite so.

. . . one with a bit  more . . . options and . . . potency.

Though I think they have quite a ways to go in terms of well trained and experienced readiness.

That may help determine when the fierce exchanges of WW3 really get triggered.

What's your view on that?

[Victoria33]

Cue Dragnet theme . . .  at a bit faster beat . . . and a bit louder volume.

The fires of WW3 are being stoked . . .

@Quix

So, China has ships on the seas.  How is this a fire of WW3 being stoked?

I have said Trump will cause WW3 due to his mouth and I believe that.  He started talking about nukes last week - said let there be an nuclear arms race, we would win it.  That was an invitation to countries to rev up their nuclear bomb arsenal.  Some country is going to hit the red button due to Trump opening up the possibility even before he takes office.  He would start a nuclear war just to prove "he" could win it.  Millions dead so he could win.  In my opinion, he is the most dangerous faux king on earth.

[Quix]

@Quix

So, China has ships on the seas.  How is this a fire of WW3 being stoked?

I have said Trump will cause WW3 due to his mouth and I believe that.  He started talking about nukes last week - said let there be an nuclear arms race, we would win it.  That was an invitation to countries to rev up their nuclear bomb arsenal.  Some country is going to hit the red button due to Trump opening up the possibility even before he takes office.  He would start a nuclear war just to prove "he" could win it.  Millions dead so he could win.  In my opinion, he is the most dangerous faux king on earth.

It is a bit of an escalation because they are prancing around Taiwan with more cheek and military power than they have done before. Such stunts are carefully planned and calibrated by the Chinese.


Though Shrillery bragged she'd attack Iran, were she President.

I still think her virulent demonized vengefulness and rage-a-holic pattern to be MORE dangerous.

And, neither one of them would pull such a stunt . . . nor foreign heads of state either . . . unless the oligarchy ordered them to. They'd prefer to live longer than they would if they pulled such stunts on their own apart from their globalists' bosses orders.

As FDR said--if it happens in politics, it was PLANNED that way.

It is ALL a complex Kabuki dance . . . and the heads of state are merely puppets on a string playing their bit parts.

[geronl]

I suppose it depends on one's definition . . .

China hasn't HAD an aircraft carrier to go on such exercises before.

In that sense, it IS unprecedented.

It's not a "war move", it's a training exercise or sea trials. Something navies do all the time. Thailand and Brazil even have aircraft carriers. Although Thailand's is basically for show (and occasionally the Kings yacht)

[DB]

In a modern real war, the last place you want to be is on an aircraft carrier.

[Quix]

It's not a "war move", it's a training exercise or sea trials. Something navies do all the time. Thailand and Brazil even have aircraft carriers. Although Thailand's is basically for show (and occasionally the Kings yacht)

I hope telling yourself that helps you sleep better.

It depends on how one defines "war move."

It is reasonable for you to make the claim you did.

It is reasonable for me to make the claim I did.

How long did you live in China?

I lived in China and Taiwan more than 16 years.

[geronl]

We should also fear the Mexican navy!

[driftdiver]

@Quix

So, China has ships on the seas.  How is this a fire of WW3 being stoked?

I have said Trump will cause WW3 due to his mouth and I believe that.  He started talking about nukes last week - said let there be an nuclear arms race, we would win it.  That was an invitation to countries to rev up their nuclear bomb arsenal.  Some country is going to hit the red button due to Trump opening up the possibility even before he takes office.  He would start a nuclear war just to prove "he" could win it.  Millions dead so he could win.  In my opinion, he is the most dangerous faux king on earth.

@Victoria33
Trump has a big mouth and he may get us all killed but I think you overstate his willingness to kill millions.   It would be much more difficult for him to trigger a war if America hadn't been put in a weak position.  Obamas weak leadership has set the stage.

[corbe]

   Of the other 2 superpowers, Trump campaigned against 1 (on trade issues), and gave the other a pass on practically everything.
   Then the Taiwanese phone call.
   Apparently the Nixon/Kissinger era of US/Chinese relations is long, past over. 
   Even a perceived 'paper tiger' will respond if it feels boxed in.

[240B]

In a modern real war, the last place you want to be is on an aircraft carrier.

Or on a submarine. I believe submarines have outlived their purpose, in combat that is. Unlike WWII, today we do not need to know where they are. We can send drones out that will autonomously track them down and kill them.


There are just so many ways to track, hem in, and kill a sub these days, that I can't imagine they would be an effective combat tool for our enemies. And even the U.S. would take heavy losses if we engaged a more modern enemy like Russia or China.
 

[skeeter]

Quite so.
Quite so.

. . . one with a bit  more . . . options and . . . potency.

Though I think they have quite a ways to go in terms of well trained and experienced readiness.

That may help determine when the fierce exchanges of WW3 really get triggered.

What's your view on that?

It may make good imagery, but one simply doesn't buy a second hand carrier, train for a few years then go play with the 7th fleet.

[bigheadfred]

Everyone keep up on their rock-throwing and stick-sharpening skills. Just in case.

[Quix]

Everyone keep up on their rock-throwing and stick-sharpening skills. Just in case.

Indeed.

1. imho, It's clear from the Scriptures about Damascus being utterly destroyed and not lived in again . . . that nukes will be involved.

2. Military whistleblowers have warned of such for years.

3. Prophetic types ditto.

4. Common people's dreams around the world have had some striking  similarities in what is pictured for WW3 in our era.

[Quix]

It may make good imagery, but one simply doesn't buy a second hand carrier, train for a few years then go play with the 7th fleet.

I agree that the complexities involved are daunting at best.

The Chinese will learn that soon enough.

They may also learn that Schlocky workmanship can be deadly on such craft.

Nevertheless . . . like with the globalist oligarchy over our Republic and the rest of the world, THEIR PRIDE and general power-mongering, greed often cause them to miscalculate.

I don't know anyone claiming that such leaders are always or even often exceedingly circumspectly logical in their choices and actions.

[Quix]

Or on a submarine. I believe submarines have outlived their purpose, in combat that is. Unlike WWII, today we do not need to know where they are. We can send drones out that will autonomously track them down and kill them.


There are just so many ways to track, hem in, and kill a sub these days, that I can't imagine they would be an effective combat tool for our enemies. And even the U.S. would take heavy losses if we engaged a more modern enemy like Russia or China.
 

I think you make good points.

However, I wouldn't count our subs out so wholesale quite yet.

We likely have more than a few tricks up our better tech and training sleeves.

Then there's our UFO and probably USO craft . . . as well as other exotic weapons.

I was once told by someone who should have known that we have at least ELEVEN different and better (i.e. more devastating) weapons systems than nukes. I couldn't squeeze out even a slight hint about what sorts.

[skeeter]

I agree that the complexities involved are daunting at best.

The Chinese will learn that soon enough.

They may also learn that Schlocky workmanship can be deadly on such craft.

Nevertheless . . . like with the globalist oligarchy over our Republic and the rest of the world, THEIR PRIDE and general power-mongering, greed often cause them to miscalculate.

I don't know anyone claiming that such leaders are always or even often exceedingly circumspectly logical in their choices and actions.

Look no further than Imperial Japan for proof of that.

War with China would be bad enough, but if we have to let it be a China attempting to project power more than a few miles off of their coast.

[Quix]

   Of the other 2 superpowers, Trump campaigned against 1 (on trade issues), and gave the other a pass on practically everything.
   Then the Taiwanese phone call.
   Apparently the Nixon/Kissinger era of US/Chinese relations is long, past over. 
   Even a perceived 'paper tiger' will respond if it feels boxed in.

A reminder:

FDR: 'If it happens in politics, it was PLANNED that way.'

I believe that's true on the global geopolitical scale as well--because it's the same cabal running both  Kabuki dances.