Trump’s Victory Is a Pivotal Turning Point in Human History

[txradioguy]

Everything?  Really?

A bit dramatic, even an unrealistic slam don't you think?

Not in the least when you look at what he promised and what he's backtracked on.

[txradioguy]

If not now... when?  When he actually does something despicable, that's when.

I don't think a lot of Trump haters are enjoying the demise of Hillary and Obama as much as I am.

I'm really happy about it.

I have no great expectations of Trump... he is a horrible man.  But that doesn't affect me.  What he does in office will affect me and that's what I'm gonna judge him on.

He's already done despicable things. They were whitewashed or explained away.

The only reason I'm glad he got elected is because it signaled the long awaited death of the political career of HRC.

As for what he's going to do in office... we've already gotten a glimpse and it's not promising.

[Frank Cannon]

As for what he's going to do in office... we've already gotten a glimpse and it's not promising.

I couldn't agree with you more. Trump is an absolute lunatic. It's a GD outrage that he is assembling such a garden variety GOP cabinet. Just how many of those people have spent their lives in academia discussing the destruction of America? None. These losers were out in the real word accomplishing things. Then Donny goes and calls BS on China and takes that Taiwan call. The nerve. We all know that only seasoned hands like John Kerry should be navigating these waters. He has been a stellar example of Americas leadership abroad. Then just this week Trump had the temerity to make our President look bad in front of the world over the UN vote against Israel. We all know Obama's vision for the Middle East has been a rousing success and will only strengthen the security of the region.  The Arabs have been terribly mistreated at the hands of the Jews after all. You know how those Jews are don't you? Let's not forget Trump's cheerleading of the country. All that is fomenting is irrational exuberance of a dying colonial power. How damn provincial.


I say we get the #NeverTrumps in gear to fight these atrocities destroying our country. Trump needs to be stopped. I know the numbers of #NT movement looks small to nonexistent, but we have to start somewhere. Maybe we can get some of the leaders of the movement out to rally the country? How about Kevin Williamson who said that blue collar workers struggling or out of work only have themselves to blame because they are uneducated losers living in flyover country. That man could solidify everyone against Trump poste haste. Then there is Ben Howe. A very solid thinker who argued for years that a Trump like candidate should emerge to save the country and then when one did, he said he didn't really mean it and had an intellectual change of heart.

We must fight now and fight right away. Begin we must to start the opening fight ahead from the genesis. Let us all commence this dawn of a birth of a new movement to move forward.

[Hondo69]

Right now is a great time to project our hopes on what could be - repeal ObamaCare, shrink government, etc.

It's fun for the moment and I enjoy playing let's pretend as much as anybody.  But I'm also a realist and understand that when it gets down to the nut cutting it won't be pretty.  So I just keep an imaginary scorecard in my head to mark progress.

So far Trump has appointed fewer Communist advisors than Obama - that's a Plus One.

He has also appointed fewer Socialists than Obama - that's another Plus One.

That's about all we really know so far, most of the rest of it is a lot of white noise right now.  A stock bump that is not artificial and the potential of new jobs are also great signs but I'm not quite ready to put them in the Plus Column just yet.  If they prove to be concrete over time I'll happily mark those off too.

[montanajoe]

Who says we should expect lower standards of behavior.  We shouldn't.  But the MSM is still out to 'get' Trump even though the election is over.  Every day a new hit piece comes out.

I'm not gonna join in that leftist frenzy.  From here on out, I'm gonna judge Trump by what he actually does as President.  Why is that lowering standards?  I have high standards, which he may not meet.... and probably won't.  I don't expect Trump to be a different person... I just want to see what kind of a president he will be.

Is that okay with everybody?

That's fine with me. However, many Trump supporters have made it very clear they will not extend the same courtesy to those who voted against Trump. I am proud that I voted against Trump and I will pick apart his presidency just as I would any candidate who was elected that I opposed.

I am a Conservative not a Republican. The GOP has made it very clear that they are no longer a conservative party, and that Conservatives are unwelcome in the party of Trump.

Is that okay with everybody...

[Frank Cannon]

That's fine with me. However, many Trump supporters have made it very clear they will not extend the same courtesy to those who voted against Trump. I am proud that I voted against Trump and I will pick apart his presidency just as I would any candidate who was elected that I opposed.

I am a Conservative not a Republican. The GOP has made it very clear that they are no longer a conservative party, and that Conservatives are unwelcome in the party of Trump.

Is that okay with everybody...

How'd you feel about Bush? He was a fairly Liberal, Nixon type GOP'er in the end. He loved spending money, creating programs and building new govt' agencies.

[montanajoe]

How'd you feel about Bush? He was a fairly Liberal, Nixon type GOP'er in the end. He loved spending money, creating programs and building new govt' agencies.

Liked and supported Bush II, Bush I not so much..

[Frank Cannon]

Liked and supported Bush II, Bush I not so much..

It's Bush II who I speak of. Homeland Security, TSA, Part D Medicare, LOST Treaty just to name a few.

[montanajoe]

It's Bush II who I speak of. Homeland Security, TSA, Part D Medicare, LOST Treaty just to name a few.

Bush II recognized we are engaged in a multi-generational war with Islam, and we very well could lose that war. Unless Islam is defeated none of the domestic issues matter. Obama was willing to give comfort and aid to the enemy draft dodging Trump is unlikely to be much better IMO..

[Frank Cannon]

Bush II recognized we are engaged in a multi-generational war with Islam, and we very well could lose that war. Unless Islam is defeated none of the domestic issues matter. Obama was willing to give comfort and aid to the enemy draft dodging Trump is unlikely to be much better IMO..

So Conservatism to you just covers running multi decade, poorly executed wars that accomplish nothing and doesn't encompass any massive federal spending, building large onerous govt' agencies, terrible Supreme Court picks, handing US sovereignty over to global authorities and the such. 

No wonder I have come to believe that the current Conservative movement is impodent and vapid.

[montanajoe]

So Conservatism to you just covers running multi decade, poorly executed wars that accomplish nothing and doesn't encompass any massive federal spending, building large onerous govt' agencies, terrible Supreme Court picks, handing US sovereignty over to global authorities and the such. 

No wonder I have come to believe that the current Conservative movement is impodent and vapid.

Didn't say that at all. What I did say is that we are losing the WOT and an amoral POTUS who equates Vietnam to his sexual escapades is unfit and unprepared to lead the nation in a time of war...

[DCPatriot]

I couldn't agree with you more. Trump is an absolute lunatic. It's a GD outrage that he is assembling such a garden variety GOP cabinet. Just how many of those people have spent their lives in academia discussing the destruction of America? None. These losers were out in the real word accomplishing things. Then Donny goes and calls BS on China and takes that Taiwan call. The nerve. We all know that only seasoned hands like John Kerry should be navigating these waters. He has been a stellar example of Americas leadership abroad. Then just this week Trump had the temerity to make our President look bad in front of the world over the UN vote against Israel. We all know Obama's vision for the Middle East has been a rousing success and will only strengthen the security of the region.  The Arabs have been terribly mistreated at the hands of the Jews after all. You know how those Jews are don't you? Let's not forget Trump's cheerleading of the country. All that is fomenting is irrational exuberance of a dying colonial power. How damn provincial.


I say we get the #NeverTrumps in gear to fight these atrocities destroying our country. Trump needs to be stopped. I know the numbers of #NT movement looks small to nonexistent, but we have to start somewhere. Maybe we can get some of the leaders of the movement out to rally the country? How about Kevin Williamson who said that blue collar workers struggling or out of work only have themselves to blame because they are uneducated losers living in flyover country. That man could solidify everyone against Trump poste haste. Then there is Ben Howe. A very solid thinker who argued for years that a Trump like candidate should emerge to save the country and then when one did, he said he didn't really mean it and had an intellectual change of heart.

We must fight now and fight right away. Begin we must to start the opening fight ahead from the genesis. Let us all commence this dawn of a birth of a new movement to move forward.

@Frank Cannon

   Spectacular

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Frank Cannon

   Spectacular

Agree!   :thumbsup3:

@Frank Cannon

[txradioguy]

That's fine with me. However, many Trump supporters have made it very clear they will not extend the same courtesy to those who voted against Trump. I am proud that I voted against Trump and I will pick apart his presidency just as I would any candidate who was elected that I opposed.

I am a Conservative not a Republican. The GOP has made it very clear that they are no longer a conservative party, and that Conservatives are unwelcome in the party of Trump.

Is that okay with everybody...

Works for me. 

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Not in the least when you look at what he promised and what he's backtracked on.

I suggest the term 'Everything' is inappropriate to use.

'Some' or 'Most' but not 'Everything'.

Why do I parse words?  Because you have already condemned anything he has done or will do.

You might as well be one of those celebrities who planned to move to Mexico.

[txradioguy]

I suggest the term 'Everything' is inappropriate to use.

Good for you.

'Some' or 'Most' but not 'Everything'.

Why do I parse words?  Because you have already condemned anything he has done or will do.

I only have his words ans actions to go by.  And so far he deserves every bit of criticism he's gotten.

You might as well be one of those celebrities who planned to move to Mexico.

Sorry to disappoint you...but a) I'm not Liberal...and b) if I made such a promise..I keep my word.

But hey...I'll give you props for trying to work in the meme that if you criticize Donny you must be a Liberal. 

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Last tactic of a coward conservative: accuse those you disagree with of being a liberal or RINO.

[geronl]

But hey...I'll give you props for trying to work in the meme that if you criticize Donny you must be a Liberal. 

Yep, don't step in those Trum Pies, they're all over the ground

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I'm a good trump/bad trump guy myself now. Commend him when he does something good, wack him in the nose when he does something bad.


His stance on Israel is 100% correct, as well as Taiwan.

[Night Hides Not]

Last tactic of a coward conservative: accuse those you disagree with of being a liberal or RINO.

How gauche!  lol

As for parsing the words of any politician, I became an expert at parsing, thanks to William Jefferson Clinton.

[txradioguy]

I'm a good trump/bad trump guy myself now. Commend him when he does something good, wack him in the nose when he does something bad.


His stance on Israel is 100% correct, as well as Taiwan.

Agreed. 

I have and will give him props when he does something right. 

[Night Hides Not]

Agreed. 

I have and will give him props when he does something right.

I think your views (and geronl's) represent the dominant attitude on TBR.

Naturally, I won't utter a word about the braying screeds from the minority attitude on TBR.   

Three guesses, and the first two don't count.   

[geronl]

His stance on Israel is 100% correct, as well as Taiwan.

He said Israel would have to make sacrifices for peace. remember.

Besides, this can all change again after he is sworn in.

[Bigun]

I'll agree with that...on numerous levels.

@DCPatriot

I agree with ALL of what lays out the problem!  I disagree that Trump is the solution.  I hope I'm wrong!

[Bigun]

So did George Washington, Abe Lincoln,  Pope John Paul II and Ronald Reagan   

Abe Lincoln!