Trump: - When will we fight back?

[bigheadfred]

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[corbe]

It's a tactic, at this point.   I believe he is castrating the mainstream media.  A direct conduit to the American People...unfiltered.

I love it.   

   @DCPatriot

   I hope you are proven right, but, history shows us the graveyard littered with other great ones in twiiterville, ....as Confucius says, He who lives by the tweet can also die by the tweet.
   just sayin' be careful what you wish for.

[Chosen Daughter]

It's a tactic, at this point.   I believe he is castrating the mainstream media.  A direct conduit to the American People...unfiltered.

I love it.   

Good for you.  I just see an idiot.

[EC]

To return to the OP for a second ...

Mr President - that is your call now. No one else's. So why you askin?

[DCPatriot]

To return to the OP for a second ...

Mr President - that is your call now. No one else's. So why you askin?

Come on....   he's certainly not "Mr President" at this time.     

[Cripplecreek]

Good for you.  I just see an idiot.

Considering the fact that he lies at least as much as the media and his fans willfully accept it, it sounds a lot more like a gang rape of reality.

[Chosen Daughter]

Considering the fact that he lies at least as much as the media and his fans willfully accept it, it sounds a lot more like a gang rape of reality.

I think so. 

[240B]

You know, lalalalala only works for can't hear you...of course, if you have your eyes closed tight...but then it might be a bit difficult to type legibly...oh, and your solipsism isn't working for me...if I don't exist for you, I should think that I also would be unable to hear, see, or read your opinions...try harder, OK? 

I have to compliment your word choice. That impressed me quite a bit. I only wish that I was able to read your post and appreciate it. Who would ever think that the word solipsism would ever come up in common conversation. Imagine that.


Check this out.
Solipsism


Solipsism is the philosophical idea that only one's own mind is sure to exist. As an epistemological position, solipsism holds that knowledge of anything outside one's own mind is unsure; the external world and other minds cannot be known and might not exist outside of the mind. As a metaphysical position, solipsism goes further to the conclusion that the world and other minds do not exist.

[EC]

Come on....   he's certainly not "Mr President" at this time.   

Sorry, old friend, won't wash. He will be in 26 days.

He wanted the job. He got the job. Now it's time for him to do the damned job. He should leave the hand wringing to the pansy vacating the hot seat.

[DCPatriot]

Sorry, old friend, won't wash. He will be in 26 days.

He wanted the job. He got the job. Now it's time for him to do the damned job. He should leave the hand wringing to the pansy vacating the hot seat.

As you said....getting back to the OP:

He's asking the question?   It's directed at the sitting Administration.  And yet, to keep yourself worked up, you assign him that 'responsibility'.

Getting/taking credit for the incredible market rise since the election is NOT the same thing, @EC ...but you know that.   

[EC]

As you said....getting back to the OP:

He's asking the question?   It's directed at the sitting Administration.  And yet, to keep yourself worked up, you assign him that 'responsibility'.

Getting/taking credit for the incredible market rise since the election is NOT the same thing, @EC ...but you know that.   

Nope. I didn't assign him the responsibility. The country did. Yet it's his now. 

His job is not to ask questions any more. It's to give answers. Solutions. Plans. Direction. Simple, really.

Still, if he isn't president yet, I do guess we'll have to credit the Worm for the market rise, right? 

[bilo]

"WE" started fighting back during the primaries when WE saw the one candidate who would fight back.

To say the very least, it was disappointing that this site changed so dramatically for the worse.

Dysfunctional, claiming on one hand to oppose Obama, whilst cheerleading AGAINST Trump.

Ban me, mod me, but I speak the truth.

So you say, but you don't recognize why so many Pubs couldn't support Trump. All you could do, along with all the other Trump supporters, was perpetuate the lies and gutter behavior.

[Mesaclone]

So you say, but you don't recognize why so many Pubs couldn't support Trump. All you could do, along with all the other Trump supporters, was perpetuate the lies and gutter behavior.

His Vulgarian streak is exactly why people like us are supporting him...and why we supported him throughout. Many of you seem to think the rest of us are blind to this crass/rude side of Trump, be assured we are not. It is the price of having someone with the bovine testicular fortitude to bring REAL change...not some semblance of rhetorical change, or worse, a facade of liberalism over a conservative countenance. So if you're upset by having your salad fork inside of your dinner fork...you're always going to be shocked by Trump's demeanor. That's a YOU problem, you should probably work on that. Most of us realize you don't bring Miss Manners to a street fight...and yes, breaking down these liberal entrenchments will absolutely require some gutter fighting.

Its not pretty, we'd love to use our salad forks in the proper order....but this isn't an episode of My Fair Lady or a Japanese Tea Ceremony, its the future of a planet and a nation. If my constitutional rights are in danger, I'm not going into the fight with anyone less than Vulgarian at my side. Some of you are shocked and dismayed by this side of Trump...I'm encouraged by it. And I rest secure in having two other branches of government to help keep the Vulgarian targeted where we need him and within the boundaries of the field of play.

So we DO understand the hesitancy of many of our fellow Republicans...most of us were hesitant at one point. But the time for squeamish elitism and self indulgent moral narcissism has passed, its time to get down in the mud and make fecal waste happen. So by all means hang on to your reservations, I can assure you I intend to hang on to my own for the next four years....but either get on board and help get this ship turned around before its hits a shoal, or join the spoiled liberals trying to hole the ship because they're not at the helm any more.

As to the original question...the fighting back part stars on January 21st.

[DCPatriot]

His Vulgarian streak is exactly why people like us are supporting him...and why we supported him throughout. Many of you seem to think the rest of us are blind to this crass/rude side of Trump, be assured we are not. It is the price of having someone with the bovine testicular fortitude to bring REAL change...not some semblance of rhetorical change, or worse, a facade of liberalism over a conservative countenance. So if you're upset by having your salad fork inside of your dinner fork...you're always going to be shocked by Trump's demeanor. That's a YOU problem, you should probably work on that. Most of us realize you don't bring Miss Manners to a street fight...and yes, breaking down these liberal entrenchments will absolutely require some gutter fighting.

Its not pretty, we'd love to use our salad forks in the proper order....but this isn't an episode of My Fair Lady or a Japanese Tea Ceremony, its the future of a planet and a nation. If my constitutional rights are in danger, I'm not going into the fight with anyone less than Vulgarian at my side. Some of you are shocked and dismayed by this side of Trump...I'm encouraged by it. And I rest secure in having two other branches of government to help keep the Vulgarian targeted where we need him and within the boundaries of the field of play.

So we DO understand the hesitancy of many of our fellow Republicans...most of us were hesitant at one point. But the time for squeamish elitism and self indulgent moral narcissism has passed, its time to get down in the mud and make fecal waste happen. So by all means hang on to your reservations, I can assure you I intend to hang on to my own for the next four years....but either get on board and help get this ship turned around before its hits a shoal, or join the spoiled liberals trying to hole the ship because they're not at the helm any more.

As to the original question...the fighting back part stars on January 21st.

 

[Doug Loss]

His Vulgarian streak is exactly why people like us are supporting him...and why we supported him throughout. Many of you seem to think the rest of us are blind to this crass/rude side of Trump, be assured we are not. It is the price of having someone with the bovine testicular fortitude to bring REAL change...not some semblance of rhetorical change, or worse, a facade of liberalism over a conservative countenance. So if you're upset by having your salad fork inside of your dinner fork...you're always going to be shocked by Trump's demeanor. That's a YOU problem, you should probably work on that. Most of us realize you don't bring Miss Manners to a street fight...and yes, breaking down these liberal entrenchments will absolutely require some gutter fighting.

Its not pretty, we'd love to use our salad forks in the proper order....but this isn't an episode of My Fair Lady or a Japanese Tea Ceremony, its the future of a planet and a nation. If my constitutional rights are in danger, I'm not going into the fight with anyone less than Vulgarian at my side. Some of you are shocked and dismayed by this side of Trump...I'm encouraged by it. And I rest secure in having two other branches of government to help keep the Vulgarian targeted where we need him and within the boundaries of the field of play.

So we DO understand the hesitancy of many of our fellow Republicans...most of us were hesitant at one point. But the time for squeamish elitism and self indulgent moral narcissism has passed, its time to get down in the mud and make fecal waste happen. So by all means hang on to your reservations, I can assure you I intend to hang on to my own for the next four years....but either get on board and help get this ship turned around before its hits a shoal, or join the spoiled liberals trying to hole the ship because they're not at the helm any more.

As to the original question...the fighting back part stars on January 21st.

What you're saying is that you want to take over the government from the leftists.  Unfortunately, the government itself, and it's unconstitutional size and escape from constitutional boundaries is the problem.  It'd be nice if Trump did what we as conservatives believe ought to be done, but many of us don't share your unwavering belief that he'll do what you want him to do.  Instead, we just don't see that as nearly likely as you cheerleaders do.

That's why some of us are working for an Article V convention, to drastically reduce the power and intrusiveness of the federal government, so it won't have nearly as much power over us as it does now regardless of who wields it.

[Mesaclone]

What you're saying is that you want to take over the government from the leftists.  Unfortunately, the government itself, and it's unconstitutional size and escape from constitutional boundaries is the problem.  It'd be nice if Trump did what we as conservatives believe ought to be done, but many of us don't share your unwavering belief that he'll do what you want him to do.  Instead, we just don't see that as nearly likely as you cheerleaders do.

That's why some of us are working for an Article V convention, to drastically reduce the power and intrusiveness of the federal government, so it won't have nearly as much power over us as it does now regardless of who wields it.

Well, actually, we ARE taking over the government from the Leftists. That's what elections do. The job now is to trim it down, and make it work like the Founders intended.

An Article V convention would be a nightmare...it would spin out of control in short order and could EASILY be taken over by Left and turned into a true nightmare. The current constitution provides all of the protections we need, its our job to persuade the populace that THIS constitution is the best thing on planet earth...because it is. If we persuade effectively, we can elect leaders who trim government and shape the courts in a way that we have originalist interpretations of law. That is how we fix our problems....no Article V convention can change hearts and minds...nor can intellectually inform the ignorant. Thats our job as conservatives.

[Sanguine]

Well, actually, we ARE taking over the government from the Leftists. That's what elections do. The job now is to trim it down, and make it work like the Founders intended.

An Article V convention would be a nightmare...it would spin out of control in short order and could EASILY be taken over by Left and turned into a true nightmare. The current constitution provides all of the protections we need, its our job to persuade the populace that THIS constitution is the best thing on planet earth...because it is. If we persuade effectively, we can elect leaders who trim government and shape the courts in a way that we have originalist interpretations of law. That is how we fix our problems....no Article V convention can change hearts and minds...nor can intellectually inform the ignorant. Thats our job as conservatives.

Ah,  using the MSM as your information source?  How,  exactly,  would the left take over a Convention Verizon?

I'm curious what you have to say.

@Mesaclone

[Smokin Joe]

"WE" started fighting back during the primaries when WE saw the one candidate who would fight back.

To say the very least, it was disappointing that this site changed so dramatically for the worse.

Dysfunctional, claiming on one hand to oppose Obama, whilst cheerleading AGAINST Trump.

Ban me, mod me, but I speak the truth.

You act as if there was only one candidate who would oppose Obama. Really?
In case you missed it, the election is over. you can quit beating the horseburger now.

[EC]

You act as if there was only one candidate who would oppose Obama. Really?
In case you missed it, the election is over. you can quit beating the horseburger now.

Meh, cut him some slack. His candidate, the one he supported loudly throughout, won. Now his candidate has to actually produce, and he feels on the spot over it. No more can he carp comfortably from the sidelines - his judgement is on public trial every day.
It's way safer and more comfortable to re-fight old battles.

[Doug Loss]

Well, actually, we ARE taking over the government from the Leftists. That's what elections do. The job now is to trim it down, and make it work like the Founders intended.

An Article V convention would be a nightmare...it would spin out of control in short order and could EASILY be taken over by Left and turned into a true nightmare. The current constitution provides all of the protections we need, its our job to persuade the populace that THIS constitution is the best thing on planet earth...because it is. If we persuade effectively, we can elect leaders who trim government and shape the courts in a way that we have originalist interpretations of law. That is how we fix our problems....no Article V convention can change hearts and minds...nor can intellectually inform the ignorant. Thats our job as conservatives.

If you actually did trim the federal government down like you imagine you will, the need for an Article V convention would largely disappear.  However, historical evidence and human nature indicate that this is something impossible to do from the inside as you are planning to try.  Nope, an Article V convention is likely the only way the federal government will ever be reined in.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

Well, actually, we ARE taking over the government from the Leftists. That's what elections do. The job now is to trim it down, and make it work like the Founders intended.

An Article V convention would be a nightmare...it would spin out of control in short order and could EASILY be taken over by Left and turned into a true nightmare. The current constitution provides all of the protections we need, its our job to persuade the populace that THIS constitution is the best thing on planet earth...because it is. If we persuade effectively, we can elect leaders who trim government and shape the courts in a way that we have originalist interpretations of law. That is how we fix our problems....no Article V convention can change hearts and minds...nor can intellectually inform the ignorant. Thats our job as conservatives.

What happens if state legislatures flip during the convention? Could be a gift to the left to do what they've wanted to do for a while now: get rid of the electoral college.

[Sanguine]

What happens if state legislatures flip during the convention? Could be a gift to the left to do what they've wanted to do for a while now: get rid of the electoral college.

Yes, and we could get hit by the sweet meteor of death.  Or, continue along our current path of ever accelerating decline.

[Night Hides Not]

Yes, and we could get hit by the sweet meteor of death.  Or, continue along our current path of ever accelerating decline.

You're obviously a "glass half full" type, eh?



 

[Cripplecreek]

What happens if state legislatures flip during the convention? Could be a gift to the left to do what they've wanted to do for a while now: get rid of the electoral college.

I don't trust the Trump crowd with the constitution any more than I trust the rest of the progressives.

What happens if Trump reverts to the position on the electoral college he had 4 years ago? His sycophants will take up the anti EC chant without skipping a beat.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Ummm...yes he does.

The  Hillary/Obama cheerleading here was despicable. And while nobody questions anyone's right to disagree, we are well within OUR rights to question the inconsistency, self indulgence, and moral narcissism that drove the anti-Trump movement here. It still drives it, though some have now seen reason.

 Anyone who can look at Trumps policy positions, cabinet choices, and direct attacks on the liberal iconography...and still not see how much we would be suffering with an incoming Hillary administration...is no conservative. Worse, they lack an iota of intellectual integrity.

Hey, haven't seen you around in a while. Happy New Year!

I'm not going to flog the dead horse anymore that I already have. So I'll just say I was pleasantly surprised by the way Trump has been handling the situation with Israel and I pray he has the wisdom to stand beside them. Time will tell.