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National popular vote now final: Clinton finishes 2.1 points ahead, Trump has highest vote total ever for a Republican

AllahpunditPosted at 9:41 pm on December 20, 2016

Dave Wasserman of Cook Political Report and FiveThirtyEight has been tracking the numbers day by day for weeks and says they’re now official.

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All 50 states + DC now certified:

Clinton: 65,844,610 (48.2%)
Trump: 62,979,636 (46.1%)
Others: 7,804,213 (5.7%)https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/133Eb4qQmOxNvtesw2hdVns073R68EZx4SfCnP4IGQf8/edit#gid=19 …
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Don't think the country is ready for CA and NY to elect all future POTUS, Just saying!! Take away the  Illegal aliens, dead people that voted and those that voted more than once like Detroit and TRUMP wins the popular. He has won 4 times, The Primary, election Night, Recounts and Electoral  College. The Martians did it! 22222frying pan

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Don't think the country is ready for CA and NY to elect all future POTUS, Just saying!! Take away the  Illegal aliens, dead people that voted and those that voted more than once like Detroit and TRUMP wins the popular. He has won 4 times, The Primary, election Night, Recounts and Electoral  College. The Martians did it! 22222frying pan

A point not being talked about is the low GOP turnout in some of these super Blue states because it doesn't matter. If I was in CA or NY and had a choice between drinking scotch or standing in line to vote even though I knew it didn't effect the outcome, I would drink.

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Don't think the country is ready for CA and NY to elect all future POTUS, Just saying!! Take away the  Illegal aliens, dead people that voted and those that voted more than once like Detroit and TRUMP wins the popular. He has won 4 times, The Primary, election Night, Recounts and Electoral  College. The Martians did it! 22222frying pan

Detroit -- are you referring to the articles about how the manual count of voters by poll workers didn't match the voting machine records, sometimes higher and sometimes lower but almost always by five or less?
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A point not being talked about is the low GOP turnout in some of these super Blue states because it doesn't matter. If I was in CA or NY and had a choice between drinking scotch or standing in line to vote even though I knew it didn't effect the outcome, I would drink.

In CA we didn't even have a senator to vote for. The contest was between two equally looney democrats.

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In CA we didn't even have a senator to vote for. The contest was between two equally looney democrats.


MA had no Senators running and my local Congressman was running unopposed. Most state-level seats were unopposed.

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A point not being talked about is the low GOP turnout in some of these super Blue states because it doesn't matter. If I was in CA or NY and had a choice between drinking scotch or standing in line to vote even though I knew it didn't effect the outcome, I would drink.

In California, both of the Senate candidates were Democrats.  In 9 Congressional districts, there was no GOP candidate either.  I think a lot of Republicans may have stayed home under those circumstances.

Also, a huge virtue of the Electoral College is that it acts as a firewall for fraud/ballot stuffing.  Cheating in states that are overwhelmingly Democrat already doesn't affect the EC results.  But if we were to go to a popular vote, there would be a huge incentive for massive ballot-box stuffing in those large cities whose election machinery is controlled almost entirely by Dems.

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Detroit -- are you referring to the articles about how the manual count of voters by poll workers didn't match the voting machine records, sometimes higher and sometimes lower but almost always by five or less?
Na! meant this Detroit. I am sure it did not happen in any other inner cities. The Martians did it!


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Na! meant this Detroit. I am sure it did not happen in any other inner cities. The Martians did it!


http://www.wnd.com/2016/12/recount-uncovers-serious-fraud-in-detroit/ ****slapping

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Sounds like the same thing.  WND is just not bothering to mention that the mismatches were small.
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One single family house in San Pedro, a neighborhood of Lost Angeles, had over 80 "vote by mail" ballots delivered to it.

Nobody will investigate voting fraud since democrats control CA govt. at the city, county and state level. Yes I do think the democrats run up these popular vote numbers with fraud, in areas they completely control.

We ARE a "union of states," hence the "United States."

States elect presidents and vice presidents. That isn't going to change any time soon, so get over it.

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We ARE a "union of states," hence the "United States."

States elect presidents and vice presidents. That isn't going to change any time soon, so get over it.

It might.  The National Popular Vote Interstate Compact is in place for 165 electoral votes.  It goes into effect when states with 270 electors come on board.  Some states have legislation pending in the current session.  If there's a wave election, you never know.

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Don't think the country is ready for CA and NY to elect all future POTUS, Just saying!! Take away the  Illegal aliens, dead people that voted and those that voted more than once like Detroit and TRUMP wins the popular. He has won 4 times, The Primary, election Night, Recounts and Electoral  College. The Martians did it! 22222frying pan

Actually, those 2.8 million votes came from Wyoming, North/South Dakota, Alaska, Texas, Alabama, Mississippi, Arkansas, Louisiana, etc.

Why are you assuming they came from New York and California?

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If Trump does as well as I expect the calls for a popular vote are going to increase exponentially in the next 4 years...

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All of the Hillary so called "popular vote" came from one State. California. Without California and all the illegal votes that California brings with them, Trump wins both the electoral and the so called popular vote.


Final tally shows Trump lost popular vote by 2.8 million – but he BEAT Clinton by 3 million votes outside of California and New York
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If Trump does as well as I expect the calls for a popular vote are going to increase exponentially in the next 4 years...


Well that's fine. As long as the rules of the game are known up-front.


What the Liberals are trying to do is to change the rules of the election after the fact.


In a one hundred yard dash, it does not matter if Hillary runs two hundreds yards. But the Liberals say it does matter. They are trying to say that it does not matter that Trump won the 100 yard dash, because Hillary ran 200 yards. That makes her the 'winner'.


You simply cannot change the rules of the race, after the race has been run. And yet, that is what we see from Liberals/NeverTrump.
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Interesting results:
 
National Vote
Hillary Clinton Democrat
65,844,610
Donald J. Trump Republican
62,979,636
-2,864,974
CA Vote
Hillary Clinton Democrat
8,753,788
Donald J. Trump Republican
4,483,810
-4,269,978
National Vote, ex CA
Hillary Clinton Democrat
57,090,822
Donald J. Trump Republican
58,495,826
1,405,004

Subtract California, and Trump wins the other 49 states, plus DC by 1.4 million votes.
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