Rush: A Bigger Earthquake Than 1980

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http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/12/14/a_bigger_earthquake_than_1980


A Bigger Earthquake Than 1980
December 14, 2016
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BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Here is J. R. in Columbus, Ohio.  J. R, great to have you.  How you doing, sir?

CALLER:  Doing well.  Mega Merry Christmas dittos, Rush.

RUSH:  Same to you, sir.

CALLER:  Thank you.  Okay, so here's my question.  Did you feel the same when Trump won the election as you did when Reagan won in 1980?

RUSH:  Well, on balance, yeah, in both cases. Maybe even a little bit more so with Trump.

CALLER:  Huh.

RUSH:  But, yeah, I remember when Reagan won everybody was ecstatic, and they were ecstatic for many of the same reasons. The polls all had Reagan losing, the last poll had Reagan losing by nine.  We were in terrible economic circumstances.

CALLER:  Yep.

RUSH:  So, yeah, Reagan's win was huge and the media was up there all upset what happened in the polls, why'd the polls get it wrong.  I'm a little older now and I've got a lot more maturity and I know a lot more than I knew in the 1980s, and this is a bigger earthquake precisely 'cause Trump's not from the political system.

CALLER:  Hmm.  Well, thank you.

RUSH:  Well, why did you want to know that?

CALLER:  Well, because I was 13 when Reagan won, and my children are 13 and 14, and they ran in my bedroom at two in the morning jumping on my bed.

RUSH:  Well, you know, there's some differences between 1980 and now.  Back in 1980 there were only three networks.

CALLER:  Yeah.

RUSH:  CNN was just getting going, I think.  Now your kids can't escape. Thirteen-year-olds back then, if they didn't watch the evening news, they didn't see news.  If they didn't watch the 6:30 or seven p.m. news, they didn't see news.  Today younger people have much more access to that kind of hard news than you did when you were 13 back then.

CALLER:  Yes, sir.

RUSH:  But still, the emotion is similar, to answer your question.  Now, what kind of iPhone 7 do you want, a 7 or a Plus?

CALLER:  Oh, Rush, thank you.  7 would be just terrific, and thank you so much.

RUSH:  You're welcome, who's your carrier?

CALLER:  T-Mobile.

RUSH:  T-Mobile.  Right on.  Here's what's gonna happen.  Do you have a color preference?

CALLER:  Black.

RUSH:  Okay.  I'm gonna send you an iPhone 7 in black and it'll work on T-Mobile.  It might have -- I don't know without opening it -- it might have an AT&T SIM card in it.  No matter if it does, this phone will work on either AT&T or T-Mobile.  These phones are unlocked. What kind of phone do you have now?

CALLER:  An iPhone 4.

RUSH:  The SIM card's too big, you couldn't swap.

CALLER:  I don't care.

RUSH:  Take your phone, your iPhone 4 and this new one to the T-Mobile store and tell 'em that the new phone, the 7, is a gift --

CALLER:  Okay.

RUSH:  -- and that it might have an AT&T SIM card in it but you know that it'll work on T-Mobile and they should set you right up, okay?

CALLER:  Awesome.

RUSH:  Also a prescription -- subscription -- well, it may be a prescription for some, of Rush 24/7, one year of the website and the newsletter. Hang on so we'll get your address and get it out to you.

BREAK TRANSCRIPT

RUSH:  All right, regarding our last caller. I think it's safe to say that this, the Trump win is the biggest upset victory maybe ever, certainly in my lifetime, it's the biggest upset.  So the emotion that's attached to that is gonna be profound.  The Reagan win was huge for many of the same reasons, but it wasn't the big upset that this was. 

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[JustPassinThru]

Limbaugh has jettisoned all adherence to principles, pretend or sincere, to join in with the pompom dance team.

Good for him.  I've jettisoned all trafficking with Limbaugh.  An eight-year member of his website, I terminated it in August when he took full leave of his senses.

This is going to go where Cults of Personality always go.  Violent or listless, it will lead to failure by the cult leader, who is, as always, far less than the myth being crafted; and anger by the cult followers.

There is no comic-book superhero who can rip off his suit and save us.  There are only the PRECEPTS OF THE AMERICAN FOUNDING - which WE can use to save OURSELVES.

The simpleton pompom dancers are a distraction, and I hope that real leaders find time to give them the serious beating that's due them.

[Cripplecreek]

This is going to go where Cults of Personality always go.  Violent or listless, it will lead to failure by the cult leader, who is, as always, far less than the myth being crafted; and anger by the cult followers.

There is no comic-book superhero who can rip off his suit and save us.  There are only the PRECEPTS OF THE AMERICAN FOUNDING - which WE can use to save OURSELVES.

The simpleton pompom dancers are a distraction, and I hope that real leaders find time to give them the serious beating that's due them.

They try to compare Trump to Reagan but the two men couldn't be more different.

In his nomination acceptance speech, Reagan warned against trusting men who promise political salvation. Instead we must rely on ourselves.

In Trump's nomination acceptance speech he said "I Alone can fix it" and the people cheered like morons.

[guitar4jesus]

Limbaugh traded his stogie for an opium pipe.

[JustPassinThru]

Limbaugh traded his stogie for an opium pipe.

Pretty much.

He's long past his USE BY date.  Frankly he should have hanged it up long ago...from his early days as a political Johnny Carson, he's been strident and unfunny for years.  Now he's tossing his one redeeming social value, his commitment to conservatism and his effective articulation of it...he's throwing that away.

He should have passed the torch five years ago...now he's damaged his brand.  But since both radio and Internet are about to come under the boot of Leftist government censorship...perhaps it doesn't matter much.

[240B]

CALLER:  Thank you.  Okay, so here's my question.  Did you feel the same when Trump won the election as you did when Reagan won in 1980?

RUSH:  Well, on balance, yeah, in both cases. Maybe even a little bit more so with Trump.

CALLER:  Huh.

RUSH:  But, yeah, I remember when Reagan won everybody was ecstatic, and they were ecstatic for many of the same reasons. The polls all had Reagan losing, the last poll had Reagan losing by nine.  We were in terrible economic circumstances.

CALLER:  Yep.

RUSH:  So, yeah, Reagan's win was huge and the media was up there all upset what happened in the polls, why'd the polls get it wrong.  I'm a little older now and I've got a lot more maturity and I know a lot more than I knew in the 1980s, and this is a bigger earthquake precisely 'cause Trump's not from the political system.

What part of this is wrong? Furthermore, how can what he said be wrong? The caller was simply asking him how he feels, not if Trump is the same as Reagan. And Rush answered by saying that the elections were similar and that his emotions were similar. There is nothing more to it than that.


That seems all true to me. What is the problem?

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Well I guess since the caller asked for feeling it's hard to judge here. However RR at least won the popular vote.

[240B]

Well I guess since the caller asked for feeling it's hard to judge here. However RR at least won the popular vote.

Thank you. Sometimes it is hard to find a reasoned, rational, response on this site when Trump is involved, no matter what the issue is.

[JustPassinThru]

What part of this is wrong? Furthermore, how can what he said be wrong? The caller was simply asking him how he feels, not if Trump is the same as Reagan. And Rush answered by saying that the elections were similar and that his emotions were similar. There is nothing more to it than that.


That seems all true to me. What is the problem?

The problem is, FEELINGS ARE IRRELEVANT.  What is important is the vote tallies; AND WHY.

Reagan won as he did because he was committed to the principles on which this nation was based - and communicated it, and well; and contrasted his beliefs with Jimmuh's fuss-budget tamperings and answering every perceived problem with truckloads of more borrowed government money.

Trump won because of a Cult of Personality - which we're seeing continue here.  Cults are dangerous things.  At best, they give us fainting teenaged girls at rock concerts...yeah, and legions of underaged groupies ready to disrobe.  At worst...they give us Jim Jones or Heaven's Gate.  Or...yeah, Godwin's Law...Adolf.

Cults and cultists suspend and suppress critical thinking and appraisal and encourage, demand, mindless WORSHIP of the object of the cult.

BIG difference; and this time, after all the years Limbaugh has been mocking the cult objects of the Left...he's right in there, chugging Jim Jones' Kool-Aid.

[skeeter]

Limbaugh has jettisoned all adherence to principles, pretend or sincere, to join in with the pompom dance team.

Good for him.  I've jettisoned all trafficking with Limbaugh.  An eight-year member of his website, I terminated it in August when he took full leave of his senses.

This is going to go where Cults of Personality always go.  Violent or listless, it will lead to failure by the cult leader, who is, as always, far less than the myth being crafted; and anger by the cult followers.

There is no comic-book superhero who can rip off his suit and save us.  There are only the PRECEPTS OF THE AMERICAN FOUNDING - which WE can use to save OURSELVES.

The simpleton pompom dancers are a distraction, and I hope that real leaders find time to give them the serious beating that's due them.

Limbaugh just prattles on about 'being the best you can be' like some kind of discount motivational speaker without bothering to defend the principles that make success in this country possible. A broken record.

I know that the whole conservative thing is just a lucrative schtick for many of these talk show guys, but somehow it surprised me when I finally realized its just a schtick for Rush as well. Maybe it shouldn't have.

[JustPassinThru]

I know that the whole conservative thing is just a lucrative schtick for many of these talk show guys, but somehow it surprised me when I finally realized its just a schtick for Rush as well. Maybe it shouldn't have.

It wasn't a schtick for Limbaugh.  He was, WAS, the real deal.

People change.  I was once a far-left Socialist.  Ronald Reagan changed ME - Reagan, and his critics.  I saw which ones were full of what makes the grass green; and whose words bore fruit.

I changed.  Limbaugh changed.  I guess the bleak landscape viewed by conservatives, led him to look for an upbeat cult leader with a YUUUGE...vision.  Of being THE GREATEST.

People change.  Newt Gingrich used to be Mister Conservative; and now he prates on about protectionism and government crony deals like the head of JPMorganChase.

It's sad, but that's how it is.  Especially when people don't revisit their roots and re-examine their basic values and convictions.  Limbaugh and Gingrich, and now apparently Pence, have forgotten or are intentionally forgetting those basics.

[TomSea]

Reagan also won California, it's been a long time since Republicans won California unfortunately.

Take away California and the so-called popular vote? And who all is voting. Detroit's been shown to be all messed up currently per voting.

[240B]

The problem is, FEELINGS ARE IRRELEVANT.  What is important is the vote tallies; AND WHY.

Reagan won as he did because he was committed to the principles on which this nation was based - and communicated it, and well; and contrasted his beliefs with Jimmuh's fuss-budget tamperings and answering every perceived problem with truckloads of more borrowed government money.

Trump won because of a Cult of Personality - which we're seeing continue here.  Cults are dangerous things.  At best, they give us fainting teenaged girls at rock concerts...yeah, and legions of underaged groupies ready to disrobe.  At worst...they give us Jim Jones or Heaven's Gate.  Or...yeah, Godwin's Law...Adolf.

Cults and cultists suspend and suppress critical thinking and appraisal and encourage, demand, mindless WORSHIP of the object of the cult.

BIG difference; and this time, after all the years Limbaugh has been mocking the cult objects of the Left...he's right in there, chugging Jim Jones' Kool-Aid.

This is irrational emotional nonsense. Reagan did have a very strong, devout, following. He won 49 freaking States, man! You cannot do that without a cult of personality. Get a grip, and calm down.

[JustPassinThru]

This is irrational emotional nonsense. Reagan did have a very strong, devout, following. He won 49 freaking States, man! You cannot do that without a cult of personality. Get a grip, and calm down.

You obviously didn't read...I guess that's tough to do while doing backflips and shaking the pompoms.

Reagan did NOT have a Cult of Personality.  I made that clear.  Reagan appealed to the Left-Brain with principles and logic and calm good sense.

TRUMP is the cultist.  That he got something approaching similar numbers is irrelevant.  He got them by pretending to be a Marvel Comics superhero.

[240B]

You obviously didn't read...I guess that's tough to do while doing backflips and shaking the pompoms.

Reagan did NOT have a Cult of Personality.  I made that clear.  Reagan appealed to the Left-Brain with principles and logic and calm good sense.

TRUMP is the cultist.  That he got something approaching similar numbers is irrelevant.  He got them by pretending to be a Marvel Comics superhero.

I respect your opinion. My opinion is different. We disagree, that's all. But I do appreciate your point of view.

[skeeter]

It wasn't a schtick for Limbaugh.  He was, WAS, the real deal.

People change.  I was once a far-left Socialist.  Ronald Reagan changed ME - Reagan, and his critics.  I saw which ones were full of what makes the grass green; and whose words bore fruit.

I changed.  Limbaugh changed.  I guess the bleak landscape viewed by conservatives, led him to look for an upbeat cult leader with a YUUUGE...vision.  Of being THE GREATEST.

People change.  Newt Gingrich used to be Mister Conservative; and now he prates on about protectionism and government crony deals like the head of JPMorganChase.

It's sad, but that's how it is.  Especially when people don't revisit their roots and re-examine their basic values and convictions.  Limbaugh and Gingrich, and now apparently Pence, have forgotten or are intentionally forgetting those basics.

I always had the impression Rush was inordinately impressed by celebrity. For years he talked about having dinner with WF Buckley. But that was entirely in keeping with his professed values.

If anything has changed Rush since its that he's now worth a half billion dollars and is ensconced behind a security fence on a 2 1/2 acre beachfront estate in one of Palm Beach's most tony neighborhoods.

Nothing wrong with being fabulously successful but it would tend to make a person feel rather exclusive and want to hang out with others similarly exclusive.

[Cripplecreek]

I always had the impression Rush was inordinately impressed by celebrity. For years he talked about having dinner with WF Buckley. But that was entirely in keeping with his professed values.

If anything has changed Rush since its that he's now worth a half billion dollars and is ensconced behind a security fence on a 2 1/2 acre beachfront estate in one of Palm Beach's most tony neighborhoods.

Nothing wrong with being fabulously successful but it would tend to make a person feel rather exclusive and want to hang out with others similarly exclusive.

Very few conservative talkers really know any real every day conservatives personally. Mark Levin is great when it comes to "textbook conservatism". He's fine for doing what he does but he's not the type who would be comfortable in a rural area and he's not the kind of guy you would encounter on a dirt road and chat back and forth between pickup trucks for 20 minutes.

Glenn Beck impressed me with the fact that he risked it all and walked away from the bubble. I know he does spend a fair amount of time talking to small town and rural people.

[skeeter]

Glenn Beck impressed me with the fact that he risked it all and walked away from the bubble. I know he does spend a fair amount of time talking to small town and rural people.

Didn't know that. Might explain the scorn constantly heaped on the man.

[Cripplecreek]

Didn't know that. Might explain the scorn constantly heaped on the man.

He left NY and moved to Texas.

They said it was all over for him if he did that but he seems to be doing pretty well for himself 6 or 7 years later.

[JustPassinThru]

I always had the impression Rush was inordinately impressed by celebrity. For years he talked about having dinner with WF Buckley. But that was entirely in keeping with his professed values.

This is true.  Rush hit the big time just as the young, photogenic Trump was becoming the darling of the Yuppie set...and Limbaugh, in the past, has been open of his admiration and fascination with The Donald.

Time goes on, and Limbaugh becomes almost as rich; and, former fellow Manhattanites, they find themselves both living in Palm Beach.  And becoming frequent golfing companions.

This is a link I remember considering, but with all that's gone down it got pushed deep in my onboard Swap File.  But it's all true, and it does explain to some extent, Limbaugh's cheerleading.

Not to excuse it.  Admiration is one thing, but when it clouds one's professional judgment; when analysis becomes advocacy and then cheerleading...time to rein it in.

Limbaugh doesn't see that time.  So I saw the time to cancel.

[musiclady]

Limbaugh traded his stogie for an opium pipe.

To quote a wise man.............. aye.    ^-^

[musiclady]

Limbaugh just prattles on about 'being the best you can be' like some kind of discount motivational speaker without bothering to defend the principles that make success in this country possible. A broken record.

I know that the whole conservative thing is just a lucrative schtick for many of these talk show guys, but somehow it surprised me when I finally realized its just a schtick for Rush as well. Maybe it shouldn't have.

I agree that it was just a schtick.

I don't think he ever believed in Conservatism.  He just saw an immense audience and pretended to be one of us.

It was marketing and entertainment.  No more, no less.

I'm just glad he finally outted himself.

Saves me a LOT of time.

[INVAR]

Limbaugh has jettisoned all adherence to principles, pretend or sincere, to join in with the pompom dance team.

Good for him.  I've jettisoned all trafficking with Limbaugh.  An eight-year member of his website, I terminated it in August when he took full leave of his senses.

This is going to go where Cults of Personality always go.  Violent or listless, it will lead to failure by the cult leader, who is, as always, far less than the myth being crafted; and anger by the cult followers.

There is no comic-book superhero who can rip off his suit and save us.  There are only the PRECEPTS OF THE AMERICAN FOUNDING - which WE can use to save OURSELVES.

The simpleton pompom dancers are a distraction, and I hope that real leaders find time to give them the serious beating that's due them.

AMEN

and DITTOS.

Dumped 24/7, turned him off for good in early August when he told a caller that refusing to support Trump was supporting Hillary - and that was BEFORE the convention.

Obviously everything he preached for  25 plus years was nothing to him except a ratings gig.

I now see him the way I do a false preacher, and have treated him accordingly.

[guitar4jesus]

To quote a wise man.............. aye.    ^-^