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http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-04/these-countries-have-nearly-eliminated-cash-circulation
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The cashless society is catching up to all of us. As SHTFPlan.com's Mac Slavo notes,

    Most of Europe has shifted that way, and now India is forcing the issue. In the United States, people are being acclimated to it, and may soon find that no other option is practical in the highly-digitized online world.
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    Once that takes hold, the banksters, bureaucrats and hackers will have total information on all your transactions, purchasing behavior, profiles about consumers, political and social background history and even predictive behavior, allowing them to control the population with ease.

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    If/when a major crisis hits, nothing will work if the grid goes down; nothing will take place that isn’t strictly authorized – apart from a barter and precious metals exchange system that will be marginalized to the pre-digital ghetto.
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In fact, as The Daily Coin's Rory Hall explains 1 out of 3 people in the world never uses cash...
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We recently learned how serious these criminals are about stealing the sovereignty of every person on planet earth. Actually, most people are willingly handing over their sovereignty to the banks/government and have no idea what they are actually doing.
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When India banned (made illegal) the 500 and 1000 rupee banknote this move effected every 1 out of 7 people on planet earth. That means that every 7th person, anywhere and everywhere, you come in contact with may have been effected by this cash ban.

Our individual sovereignty is tied directly to our ability to move freely about. When every step we make is tracked by the bank/government our sovereignty is gone forever. Freely trading commerce is one of the cornerstones of human sovereignty. Without the ability to conduct business with whom we wish, when we wish we are nothing more than cattle to the overlords of the land.

An expat living in Thailand sent me an email last week, at the height of India blowing apart because the idiotic decision by Prime Minister Modi to eliminate the two most used bank notes in India. The email was to inform me that Thailand would be implementing a new policy in the early part of 2017 to completely eliminate coins from circulation. South Korea has already taken measures to eliminate coins from circulation.
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There's a wealth of information in the article at the link.
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It's clearly only a matter of time . . .
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And well predicted 2,000 years ago:
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Revelation 13:17
so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark: the beast’s name or the number of his name.
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Revelation 14:11
and the smoke of their torment will go up forever and ever. There is no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and his image, or anyone who receives the mark of his name.
In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
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Revelation 16:2
The first went and poured out his bowl on the earth, and severely painful sores broke out on the people who had the mark of the beast and who worshiped his image.
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Revelation 19:20
But the beast was taken prisoner, and along with him the false prophet, who had performed the signs in his presence. He deceived those who accepted the mark of the beast and those who worshiped his image with these signs. Both of them were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with sulfur.
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Revelation 20:4
[ The Saints Reign with the Messiah ] Then I saw thrones, and people seated on them who were given authority to judge. I also saw the people who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of God’s word, who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and who had not accepted the mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with the Messiah for 1,000 years.
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Aaron Russo (Director of the movie TRADING PLACES) was offered an elite chip by a Rockefeller . . . his narrative is here:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngLkUicUhrg
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Choose this day whom you will serve.
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Was it a Dylan song asserting . . . 'ya gotta serve somebody?'
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1,000 rupees is about $14.74

They are going to issue new 500 rupee notes and 2,000 rupee notes.

It would be like the US scrapping the $15 bill if we had one.

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1,000 rupees is about $14.74

They are going to issue new 500 rupee notes and 2,000 rupee notes.

It would be like the US scrapping the $15 bill if we had one.

Soooooooooo, are you saying that you do not believe that India or the other countries are

IN the interative, step-by-step PROCESS

of going to a cashless society?
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Quix. You are [mod snip--this phrasing would normally not be that big a deal--you have made such phrasing a harsh big deal. So I'll deal with it accordingly going forward]. They are NOT eliminating cash. They are getting rid of coins, whose cost to make outstrips the monetary value. Those two countries will still have cash. Beyond that India is REMONETIZING, not eliminating. The way they are doing it is insane because India is a basketcase run by a complete moron, but they are still using cash.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2016, 03:47:39 pm by Quix »

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Quix. You are [mod snip]. They are NOT eliminating cash. They are getting rid of coins, whose cost to make outstrips the monetary value. Those two countries will still have cash. Beyond that India is REMONETIZING, not eliminating. The way they are doing it is insane because India is a basketcase run by a complete moron, but they are still using cash.


 :thumbsup:

They have always been a basketcase.

It would make no sense for a country where the average income is barely over $100 a month and they don't quite average a bank account per household to go cashless
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They have always been a basketcase.

It would make no sense for a country where the average income is barely over $100 a month and they don't quite average a bank account per household to go cashless

I'd guesstimate that in the last 40+ years . . . since Hal Lindsey and others first popularized discussion of such an eventuality . . .

that there have been several hundred announcements, technological advances, published globalist schemes etc. toward that goal. And ALWAYS the graph slants upwards toward increasing movement of society and the economic system toward that goal.

But that's OK. You still have  time to go back to sleep and dream sweetly of how it's all a nutter's notion with obviously no basis in fact. No doubt there's plenty of Kool-Aid available to help keep you hydrated in your sleep.

I think you are not understanding my post. Or the source document.

True, India is not, in their CURRENT efforts, demanding an utter forsaking of all cash.

However, they ARE incrementally moving and conditioning society toward that long globalist held goal.

You don't have to see it.

You have some more time before it slaps you upside the head.

You can still pretend it's all utterly nonsense posted by the resident Chief GOPBR nutter/kook. You'd likely have  lots stand with you in that stance.

And you'd all be missing the point as well as the evidence.

So be it.

I observed in China . . . that in many cases, they had a MUCH easier time implementing the latest technologies, construction methods and materials in infrastructure building because they didn't have antiquated versions in place already.


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Quix. You are spinning off the rails man. They are NOT eliminating cash. They are getting rid of coins, whose cost to make outstrips the monetary value. Those two countries will still have cash. Beyond that India is REMONETIZING, not eliminating. The way they are doing it is insane because India is a basketcase run by a complete moron, but they are still using cash.


They have always been a basketcase.

It would make no sense for a country where the average income is barely over $100 a month and they don't quite average a bank account per household to go cashless

Gentlemen, You are correct in India being an insane basket case third world anus.  However, being intimately involved with India (having lived there back in 2012 and having been back each year), I do not think you are familiar with what this does INSIDE India.

500 and 1000 INR bills are NOTES - not coins.   They are paper notes, and I have a bunch of them right here with me.  They are indeed small denominations to us - less than $15 and $7 - however, to your average Indian, they are the equivalent of $20 and $50 notes.  1 Rupee coins are worth a fraction of a penny. 10 INR coins are only 17¢ in equivalent value.  The low castes are too poor to have bank accounts - so cash is king and the ONLY form by which they exist.  Coins are used mostly by the low castes to buy what food they can in small amounts, which is mostly rice and some vegetables and fruits.

Moving to cashlessness, gives the government a ton of power to regulate an already Socialist society that is wholly rife with institutionalized corruption that would make your head spin.

Narenda Modi is as radical a Hindu as Bin Laden was a radical Jihadist.  He seeks to return India to a pure Hindu state, and India is in the condition it is in because Caste still governs all of Indian society - which is dictated by the Hindu religion.  What Modi may doing is a form of economic genocide - because the low castes, the untouchables and those whom the upper castes loathe can only exist via cash.  Ministries and charities to low castes and Christians from the West are being shut down and prohibited from sending support by the central government and real hardship is beginning to be felt among an already suffering underclass and poor.

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THANKS TONS for your experienced  insights.

Sobering.

Gentlemen, You are correct in India being an insane basket case third world anus.  However, being intimately involved with India (having lived there back in 2012 and having been back each year), I do not think you are familiar with what this does INSIDE India.

500 and 1000 INR bills are NOTES - not coins.   They are paper notes, and I have a bunch of them right here with me.  They are indeed small denominations to us - less than $15 and $7 - however, to your average Indian, they are the equivalent of $20 and $50 notes.  1 Rupee coins are worth a fraction of a penny. 10 INR coins are only 17¢ in equivalent value.  The low castes are too poor to have bank accounts - so cash is king and the ONLY form by which they exist.  Coins are used mostly by the low castes to buy what food they can in small amounts, which is mostly rice and some vegetables and fruits.

Moving to cashlessness, gives the government a ton of power to regulate an already Socialist society that is wholly rife with institutionalized corruption that would make your head spin.

Narenda Modi is as radical a Hindu as Bin Laden was a radical Jihadist.  He seeks to return India to a pure Hindu state, and India is in the condition it is in because Caste still governs all of Indian society - which is dictated by the Hindu religion.  What Modi may doing is a form of economic genocide - because the low castes, the untouchables and those whom the upper castes loathe can only exist via cash.  Ministries and charities to low castes and Christians from the West are being shut down and prohibited from sending support by the central government and real hardship is beginning to be felt among an already suffering underclass and poor.


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I think you are not understanding my post. Or the source document.

True, India is not, in their CURRENT efforts, demanding an utter forsaking of all cash.

However, they ARE incrementally moving and conditioning society toward that long globalist held goal.


The article was about 500 and rupee notes being "eliminated". New 500 rupee notes and 2,000 rupee notes are set to replace those being done away with.

Note that 43% of bank accounts in India are dormant - no deposits or withdrawals during a year. That means about half of the families effectively have no bank account at all (or don't have the income to use one they have).

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India seemingly has the perfect audience for driving online shopping with its roughly 300 million active Internet users, coming in second behind China. But there’s one hitch creating a lot of friction with the eCommerce marketplaces that’s bigger than the delivery speed logistics — the fact that 80 percent of eCommerce transactions are paid out in cash upon delivery. And the fact that access to credit card remains slim as a Wall Street Journal report said just 1.8 percent of those over the age 15 have access to or have a credit card just underscores that point.

Outside of the 7 largest cities, India is basically still a cash-only society. Even in the cities there is a large number of retailers and peddlers and shops that are cash-only.

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India ranked 83rd out of 130 countries in the index that ranks countries by Internet users, server infrastructure, credit card penetration and postal delivery.

Hard to understand why this remonetizing is made a big deal of, except that it's stupid and doesn't fix anything. India isn't even in the top 20 countries that would go cashless. Cashless won't happen while there is a 2-3% charge for every credit card or debit transaction (which is raising the prices of everything people buy)

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The article was about 500 and rupee notes being "eliminated". New 500 rupee notes and 2,000 rupee notes are set to replace those being done away with.

Note that 43% of bank accounts in India are dormant - no deposits or withdrawals during a year. That means about half of the families effectively have no bank account at all (or don't have the income to use one they have).

Outside of the 7 largest cities, India is basically still a cash-only society. Even in the cities there is a large number of retailers and peddlers and shops that are cash-only.

Hard to understand why this remonetizing is made a big deal of, except that it's stupid and doesn't fix anything. India isn't even in the top 20 countries that would go cashless. Cashless won't happen while there is a 2-3% charge for every credit card or debit transaction (which is raising the prices of everything people buy)

I can readily see that India has a LOT in the way of going utterly cashless.

However, life is rapidly becoming stranger than fiction in a list of ways.

IF the globalists decided to make India a star example, they could shockingly quickly.

IIRC, The Rothchilds alone are reported to be worth more than $300 TRILLION.

It's been rumored that part of their plan--after the population reduction . . . is to cancel all debts and to implement their cashless society and give every man, woman and child $10,000 USD.

These folks are quite prepared to pull a lot of interesting, drastic and unheard of manipulations to achieve their goals.

Denial of that fact is not a good survival trait.
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Gentlemen, You are correct in India being an insane basket case third world anus.  However, being intimately involved with India (having lived there back in 2012 and having been back each year), I do not think you are familiar with what this does INSIDE India.

500 and 1000 INR bills are NOTES - not coins.   They are paper notes, and I have a bunch of them right here with me.  They are indeed small denominations to us - less than $15 and $7 - however, to your average Indian, they are the equivalent of $20 and $50 notes.  1 Rupee coins are worth a fraction of a penny. 10 INR coins are only 17¢ in equivalent value.  The low castes are too poor to have bank accounts - so cash is king and the ONLY form by which they exist.  Coins are used mostly by the low castes to buy what food they can in small amounts, which is mostly rice and some vegetables and fruits.

Moving to cashlessness, gives the government a ton of power to regulate an already Socialist society that is wholly rife with institutionalized corruption that would make your head spin.

Narenda Modi is as radical a Hindu as Bin Laden was a radical Jihadist.  He seeks to return India to a pure Hindu state, and India is in the condition it is in because Caste still governs all of Indian society - which is dictated by the Hindu religion.  What Modi may doing is a form of economic genocide - because the low castes, the untouchables and those whom the upper castes loathe can only exist via cash.  Ministries and charities to low castes and Christians from the West are being shut down and prohibited from sending support by the central government and real hardship is beginning to be felt among an already suffering underclass and poor.

I only spoke of the coins being used in Thailand and Korea. That's more of a result of inflation and coins being inefficient. As for India I agree with you that the PM is a whack job. Beyond this demonetizing their policy on gold has been about as insane and destructive as any I've seen. I differ with you on why. It looks to me like they are involved in a Rube Goldberg style attempt to shut down corruption. I think Modi's destruction of the castless society is another matter completely.

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I can readily see that India has a LOT in the way of going utterly cashless.

I don't think you understand dude. They can't go cashless. Most of the people do not have bank accounts. They are poor farmers and laborers. They are probably one of the most cash/barter driven societies on the planet at this time.

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IIRC, The Rothchilds alone are reported to be worth more than $300 TRILLION.


All of the wealth on Earth (including property etc) is around $241 trillion (2014)


The world's GDP is about $78 trillion.

There is somewhere between $60-$75 trillion in actual currency on Earth.





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Quix, I have a good deal to say about this.  First, I had conversations with Mac Slavo, owner of SHTF, a few years ago due to his reading prepper articles I wrote for a survival website.  The articles are so many they could make a book.  Also, a man named Selco, wrote many articles for Slavo's SHTF website.  Selco lived in Bosnia, was a paramedic when war suddenly broke out.  He was not prepared for that and he and his extended family suffered and tried to stay alive.  After that war, Selco made damn sure he would never be caught off guard again.  What he learned, he shared with us on the SHTF website.  Some of Selco's teachings had to do with mental preparation for saving your life and your family's lives.   Some teachings were horrible to read since they came from his personal experience, and they made a definite impression on those who read those.  His teachings are the best I ever read coming from someone who had been there, done that and was still alive.  Kartographer and I used to say, "When Selco speaks, listen."

Now, to Slavo's comments about the article:

“Editor’s Comment: The cashless society is catching up to all of us. Most of Europe has shifted that way, and now India is forcing the issue. In the United States, people are being acclimated to it, and may soon find that no other option is practical in the highly-digitized online world.  Once that takes hold, the banksters, bureaucrats and hackers will have total information on all your transactions, purchasing behavior, profiles about consumers, political and social background history and even predictive behavior, allowing them to control the population with ease. If/when a major crisis hits, nothing will work if the grid goes down; nothing will take place that isn’t strictly authorized – apart from a barter and precious metals exchange system that will be marginalized to the pre-digital ghetto.”

If the grid goes down, no one is going to "strictly authorize" anything.  I have studied this since 1998, and prepared for the grid to go down.  Absolutely everything stops if the grid goes down.  No banks will be open, no one will go to work.  You don't have to pay any bills you once paid.  Trucks delivering food will stop as soon as the grid goes down.  It will be every man for himself.  A person will die after three days without water.  That is the first deaths that will happen and some will be killed to get the water they have.  A man will do anything to keep his family alive with water, and he will kill others to get it.  Killing for food will come next.

Money:  If the grid is up, and an emergency happens with banks, those with money will survive longer than those without money.  For any emergency that affects banks, one needs to have small bills and quarters and I don't mean gold.  If you don't have a stack of one dollar bills and quarters, get some.  That is not as easy to do as you may think, as banks don't have much actual money - example:

About two years ago, I went to my bank and ask for one thousand dollar bills and five hundred dollars in quarters.  It was as if I had asked for the moon.  The clerks in the bank stopped their work and shuffled back and forth to put together this money.  I sat for twenty minutes waiting for the money.  I took every dollar bill they had and had to take some $5 dollar bills.  I doubt they had many quarters left, either.  Just because you want cash money that is in your bank account, doesn't mean they have the money to give it to you.  If credit cards don't work, you had better have small bills and quarters.  I won't go into bartering for goods with other goods, as that is a long process to explain.  Except for this:  NEVER barter with ammunition - it will be used against you to get what you have.

From the article:

“If you have any misguided notion that a cashless society is not coming, just keep telling yourself that every time you use a debit card, credit card or your phone for your next purchase. With the elimination of cash we effectively hand over our individual human sovereignty to the banks and the government.”

The above is another reason to have cash in your house.  Credit cards are pieces of useless plastic if they don't work.  In an emergency, what do you need to have to stay alive until the emergency is over?  Store everything you use right now to stay alive.  One day in 1998, in winter, I woke up, picked up pen and paper and practiced that there was no power, food trucks would not come, so what would I not have that I needed to have to stay alive.  Bathroom first, right?  No water, no toilet paper.  It was cold, some way to stay warm.  Into the kitchen, no power, no coffee would be made.  We are talking serious trouble here - no coffee.  Had to store coffee and food easy to cook and figure out a way to cook/heat food.  No power, no light in the house, figure out a way to have light.  I kept doing this, then thought I need to stop and wash some clothes - Rats!  No way to wash clothes, figure out a way.  I have prepped since that time.  Been though hurricanes and no problem to be without power for numerous days, I've got it covered even to be cool in Texas without power.

Think about your family and do what you can to provide for yourself in an emergency.



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All of the wealth on Earth (including property etc) is around $241 trillion (2014)


The world's GDP is about $78 trillion.

There is somewhere between $60-$75 trillion in actual currency on Earth.



You are not counting the Martian money that the aliens have injected into the world using the Bilderbergs as a conduit.


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You are not counting the Martian money that the aliens have injected into the world using the Bilderbergs as a conduit.


Oops!

Silly me.

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Quix, I have a good deal to say about this.  First, I had conversations with Mac Slavo, owner of SHTF, a few years ago due to his reading prepper articles I wrote for a survival website.  The articles are so many they could make a book.  Also, a man named Selco, wrote many articles for Slavo's SHTF website.  Selco lived in Bosnia, was a paramedic when war suddenly broke out.  He was not prepared for that and he and his extended family suffered and tried to stay alive.  After that war, Selco made damn sure he would never be caught off guard again.  What he learned, he shared with us on the SHTF website.  Some of Selco's teachings had to do with mental preparation for saving your life and your family's lives.   Some teachings were horrible to read since they came from his personal experience, and they made a definite impression on those who read those.  His teachings are the best I ever read coming from someone who had been there, done that and was still alive.  Kartographer and I used to say, "When Selco speaks, listen."

Now, to Slavo's comments about the article:

“Editor’s Comment: The cashless society is catching up to all of us. Most of Europe has shifted that way, and now India is forcing the issue. In the United States, people are being acclimated to it, and may soon find that no other option is practical in the highly-digitized online world.  Once that takes hold, the banksters, bureaucrats and hackers will have total information on all your transactions, purchasing behavior, profiles about consumers, political and social background history and even predictive behavior, allowing them to control the population with ease. If/when a major crisis hits, nothing will work if the grid goes down; nothing will take place that isn’t strictly authorized – apart from a barter and precious metals exchange system that will be marginalized to the pre-digital ghetto.”

If the grid goes down, no one is going to "strictly authorize" anything.  I have studied this since 1998, and prepared for the grid to go down.  Absolutely everything stops if the grid goes down.  No banks will be open, no one will go to work.  You don't have to pay any bills you once paid.  Trucks delivering food will stop as soon as the grid goes down.  It will be every man for himself.  A person will die after three days without water.  That is the first deaths that will happen and some will be killed to get the water they have.  A man will do anything to keep his family alive with water, and he will kill others to get it.  Killing for food will come next.

Money:  If the grid is up, and an emergency happens with banks, those with money will survive longer than those without money.  For any emergency that affects banks, one needs to have small bills and quarters and I don't mean gold.  If you don't have a stack of one dollar bills and quarters, get some.  That is not as easy to do as you may think, as banks don't have much actual money - example:

About two years ago, I went to my bank and ask for one thousand dollar bills and five hundred dollars in quarters.  It was as if I had asked for the moon.  The clerks in the bank stopped their work and shuffled back and forth to put together this money.  I sat for twenty minutes waiting for the money.  I took every dollar bill they had and had to take some $5 dollar bills.  I doubt they had many quarters left, either.  Just because you want cash money that is in your bank account, doesn't mean they have the money to give it to you.  If credit cards don't work, you had better have small bills and quarters.  I won't go into bartering for goods with other goods, as that is a long process to explain.  Except for this:  NEVER barter with ammunition - it will be used against you to get what you have.

From the article:

“If you have any misguided notion that a cashless society is not coming, just keep telling yourself that every time you use a debit card, credit card or your phone for your next purchase. With the elimination of cash we effectively hand over our individual human sovereignty to the banks and the government.”

The above is another reason to have cash in your house.  Credit cards are pieces of useless plastic if they don't work.  In an emergency, what do you need to have to stay alive until the emergency is over?  Store everything you use right now to stay alive.  One day in 1998, in winter, I woke up, picked up pen and paper and practiced that there was no power, food trucks would not come, so what would I not have that I needed to have to stay alive.  Bathroom first, right?  No water, no toilet paper.  It was cold, some way to stay warm.  Into the kitchen, no power, no coffee would be made.  We are talking serious trouble here - no coffee.  Had to store coffee and food easy to cook and figure out a way to cook/heat food.  No power, no light in the house, figure out a way to have light.  I kept doing this, then thought I need to stop and wash some clothes - Rats!  No way to wash clothes, figure out a way.  I have prepped since that time.  Been though hurricanes and no problem to be without power for numerous days, I've got it covered even to be cool in Texas without power.

Think about your family and do what you can to provide for yourself in an emergency.

Excellent points.

Thanks.

Agreed.

Nevertheless, for a time . . . 3.5 years? . . . the Mark of the Beast will be implemented . . . regardless of how well it will or won't work for how long. The enemy is not stupid. He must have the collapse of the grid well factored in.

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You are not counting the Martian money that the aliens have injected into the world using the Bilderbergs as a conduit.

Nice to be corrected by the absolutely 1,000% purest pristine totally truest truth from Mt Olympus.

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I don't think you understand dude. They can't go cashless. Most of the people do not have bank accounts. They are poor farmers and laborers. They are probably one of the most cash/barter driven societies on the planet at this time.

Your imagination seems to be limited in terms of the oligarchy's routes around those problems.

Mine isn't.

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I don't think you understand dude. They can't go cashless. Most of the people do not have bank accounts. They are poor farmers and laborers. They are probably one of the most cash/barter driven societies on the planet at this time.

Time will ultimately tell who has understood the most soonest or the least latest.

The trend lines I've watched for 50 years have been fairly reliable--speeding up somewhat . . . the angle steepening somewhat . . . yet persistently taking longer than many people thought.
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You are not counting the Martian money that the aliens have injected into the world using the Bilderbergs as a conduit.


I see your trust of information from the net is rather fickle, inconsistent.

The above quote from others would be decent enough good-hearted humor. I know from you, it's a deliberately assaultive spew. Nevertheless, I'll probably leave it be--at least for now--maybe giving marks for clever cuteness and not quite your usual 'go-for-slicing-Quix's-jugular' mode.

LOLOLOLOL.

I actually hold most things rather loosely and wait for final and emphatic conclusions to see what happens over time.

However, things  in the Bible that bear on these END TIMES are a safe bet . . . allowing for human misinterpretation in  some areas. Some things are more starkly clear than others--e.g. that we WILL HAVE a one world government and one world religion of this era with a deadly "Mark of the Beast" and massive amounts  of death--up to about half the world's population at the start.



Who knows if the Rothschilds are worth $300 Trillion exactly, or not. They have practiced secrecy for many generations.

But I have seen the figure more than once or twice, IIRC.

You seem to write as though your omniscience is emphatically sealed in granite, comprehensive, never wrong and godlike.

I don't see it that way.
 

Cute.
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Quix, I have a good deal to say about this.  First, I had conversations with Mac Slavo, owner of SHTF, a few years ago due to his reading prepper articles I wrote for a survival website.  The articles are so many they could make a book.  Also, a man named Selco, wrote many articles for Slavo's SHTF website.  Selco lived in Bosnia, was a paramedic when war suddenly broke out.  He was not prepared for that and he and his extended family suffered and tried to stay alive.  After that war, Selco made damn sure he would never be caught off guard again.  What he learned, he shared with us on the SHTF website.  Some of Selco's teachings had to do with mental preparation for saving your life and your family's lives.   Some teachings were horrible to read since they came from his personal experience, and they made a definite impression on those who read those.  His teachings are the best I ever read coming from someone who had been there, done that and was still alive.  Kartographer and I used to say, "When Selco speaks, listen."

Now, to Slavo's comments about the article:

“Editor’s Comment: The cashless society is catching up to all of us. Most of Europe has shifted that way, and now India is forcing the issue. In the United States, people are being acclimated to it, and may soon find that no other option is practical in the highly-digitized online world.  Once that takes hold, the banksters, bureaucrats and hackers will have total information on all your transactions, purchasing behavior, profiles about consumers, political and social background history and even predictive behavior, allowing them to control the population with ease. If/when a major crisis hits, nothing will work if the grid goes down; nothing will take place that isn’t strictly authorized – apart from a barter and precious metals exchange system that will be marginalized to the pre-digital ghetto.”

If the grid goes down, no one is going to "strictly authorize" anything.  I have studied this since 1998, and prepared for the grid to go down.  Absolutely everything stops if the grid goes down.  No banks will be open, no one will go to work.  You don't have to pay any bills you once paid.  Trucks delivering food will stop as soon as the grid goes down.  It will be every man for himself.  A person will die after three days without water.  That is the first deaths that will happen and some will be killed to get the water they have.  A man will do anything to keep his family alive with water, and he will kill others to get it.  Killing for food will come next.

Money:  If the grid is up, and an emergency happens with banks, those with money will survive longer than those without money.  For any emergency that affects banks, one needs to have small bills and quarters and I don't mean gold.  If you don't have a stack of one dollar bills and quarters, get some.  That is not as easy to do as you may think, as banks don't have much actual money - example:

About two years ago, I went to my bank and ask for one thousand dollar bills and five hundred dollars in quarters.  It was as if I had asked for the moon.  The clerks in the bank stopped their work and shuffled back and forth to put together this money.  I sat for twenty minutes waiting for the money.  I took every dollar bill they had and had to take some $5 dollar bills.  I doubt they had many quarters left, either.  Just because you want cash money that is in your bank account, doesn't mean they have the money to give it to you.  If credit cards don't work, you had better have small bills and quarters.  I won't go into bartering for goods with other goods, as that is a long process to explain.  Except for this:  NEVER barter with ammunition - it will be used against you to get what you have.

From the article:

“If you have any misguided notion that a cashless society is not coming, just keep telling yourself that every time you use a debit card, credit card or your phone for your next purchase. With the elimination of cash we effectively hand over our individual human sovereignty to the banks and the government.”

The above is another reason to have cash in your house.  Credit cards are pieces of useless plastic if they don't work.  In an emergency, what do you need to have to stay alive until the emergency is over?  Store everything you use right now to stay alive.  One day in 1998, in winter, I woke up, picked up pen and paper and practiced that there was no power, food trucks would not come, so what would I not have that I needed to have to stay alive.  Bathroom first, right?  No water, no toilet paper.  It was cold, some way to stay warm.  Into the kitchen, no power, no coffee would be made.  We are talking serious trouble here - no coffee.  Had to store coffee and food easy to cook and figure out a way to cook/heat food.  No power, no light in the house, figure out a way to have light.  I kept doing this, then thought I need to stop and wash some clothes - Rats!  No way to wash clothes, figure out a way.  I have prepped since that time.  Been though hurricanes and no problem to be without power for numerous days, I've got it covered even to be cool in Texas without power.

Think about your family and do what you can to provide for yourself in an emergency.

All salient, sagacious points.
This is why I so think you are wonderful..

Btw, I try to pay for cash for everything , my parents taught me that. I only use my credit card this time of year. And that I pay back in one large sum next month.

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Thank you for that eminently sensible post.