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NPD - A guide to learning to deal with narcissistic personality disorder
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1) It’s not curable and it’s barely treatable.
He is who he is. There is no getting better, or learning, or adapting. He’s not going to “rise to the occasion” for more than maybe a couple hours. So just put that out of your mind.



2) He will say whatever feels most comfortable or good to him at any given time.
He will lie a lot, and say totally different things to different people. Stop being surprised by this. While it’s important to pretend “good faith” and remind him of promises, as Bernie Sanders and others are doing, that’s for his supporters, so *they* can see the inconsistency as it comes. He won’t care. So if you’re trying to reconcile or analyze his words, don’t. It’s 100% not worth your time. Only pay attention to and address his actions.



3) You can influence him by making him feel good
There are already people like Bannon who appear ready to use him for their own ends. The GOP is excited to try. Watch them, not him. President Obama, in his wisdom, may be treating him well in hopes of influencing him and averting the worst. If he gets enough accolades for better behavior, he might continue to try it. But don’t count on it.



4) Entitlement is a key aspect of the disorder.
As we are already seeing, he will likely not observe traditional boundaries of the office. He has already stated that rules don’t apply to him. This particular attribute has huge implications for the presidency and it will be important for everyone who can to hold him to the same standards as previous presidents.



5) We should expect that he only cares about himself and those he views as extensions of himself, like his children.
People with NPD often can’t understand others as fully human or distinct.

He desires accumulation of wealth and power because it fills a hole. He will have no qualms *at all* about stealing everything he can and he’ll be happy to help others do so, if they make him feel good. He won’t view it as stealing but rather as something he’s entitled to do. This is likely the only thing he will intentionally accomplish.



6) It’s very, very confusing for non-disordered people to experience a disordered person with NPD.
While often intelligent, charismatic and charming, they do not reliably observe social conventions or demonstrate basic human empathy. It’s very common for non-disordered people to lower their own expectations and try to normalize the behavior. DO NOT DO THIS AND DO NOT ALLOW OTHERS, ESPECIALLY THE MEDIA, TO DO THIS. If you start to feel foggy or unclear about this, step away until you recalibrate.



7) People with NPD often recruit helpers, referred to in the literature as “enablers”
Called "enablers" when they allow or cover for bad behavior.  “Flying monkeys” when they perpetrate bad behavior on behalf of the narcissist. Although it’s easiest to prey on malicious people, good and vulnerable people can be unwittingly recruited. It will be important to support good people around him if and when they attempt to stay clear or break away.



8) People with NPD often foster competition for sport in people they control.
Expect lots of chaos, firings and recriminations. He will probably behave worst toward those closest to him, but that doesn’t mean (obviously) that his actions won’t have consequences for the rest of us. He will punish enemies. He may start out, as he has with the NYT, with a confusing combination of punishing/rewarding, which is a classic abuse tactic for control. If you see your media cooperating or facilitating this behavior for rewards, call them on it.



9) Gaslighting  is real and torturous.
Gaslighting : where someone tries to convince you that the reality you’ve experienced isn’t true .

He will gaslight, his followers will gaslight. Many of our politicians and media figures already gaslight, so it will be hard to distinguish his amplified version from what has already been normalized. Learn the signs and find ways to stay focused on what you know to be true. Note: it is typically not helpful to argue with people who are attempting to gaslight. You will only confuse yourself. Just walk away.



10) Whenever possible, do not focus on the narcissist or give him attention.
Unfortunately we can’t and shouldn’t ignore the president, but don’t circulate his tweets or laugh at him — you are enabling him and getting his word out.

Pay attention to your own emotions: do you sort of enjoy his clowning? do you enjoy the outrage? is this kind of fun and dramatic, in a sick way? You are adding to his energy. Focus on what you can change and how you can resist, where you are.

"We are all called to be leaders now, in the absence of leadership."



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I'm not a mental-health professional, but from my knowledge of NPD, this gives good info.  I hope that some of the professionals will weigh in.

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Re: NPD - A guide to learning to deal with narcissistic personality disorder
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2016, 08:33:57 pm »
Your post is full of wide open spaces, BTW.

Concerning the content I find that I must write a great deal or nothing at all so I elect the latter.

Slightly off topic in the following, forgive me...

I was happy to see that there was minimal documented fraud reported in the election as far as how it affected outcomes (at least according to extant data currently available). The only reports of fraud were general, anecdotal and/or suggested by statistical or peripheral evidence/testimony.

So my previously-expressed strong concerns about fraud potentially playing a major, nefarious part in the national election appear to have been unwarranted.

It is interesting that the issue of fraud emerged by a different avenue than the one we all discussed on one lengthy thread in which Victoria was involved.

For me it is gratifying to see that the fraud issue did achieve some prominent, broad, mass media  coverage at long last and may finally get the sort of scrutiny as a technical and popularly-discusses issue that I have always felt and still feel it deserves.
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Re: NPD - A guide to learning to deal with narcissistic personality disorder
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2016, 10:13:54 pm »
@LateForLunch

There are images, but they might take some time to load.

I agree with you about fraud. 
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Re: NPD - A guide to learning to deal with narcissistic personality disorder
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2016, 03:52:23 am »
@LateForLunch

There are images, but they might take some time to load.

I agree with you about fraud.

Hmmm.  The one on the piano.  Looks like a Mafia photo "shoot"  all that is missing is the guns.
AG William Barr: "I'm recused from that matter because one of the law firms that represented Epstein long ago was a firm that I subsequently joined for a period of time."

Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.